unclecalzone Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Do you have some Brake cleaner? Similar enough to easy start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Do you have some Brake cleaner? Similar enough to easy start I did have. I seem to have run out. I always seem to have just run out of that stuff. And carb cleaner. Where does it all go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclecalzone Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I find that too - you’ll use a bit to clean a part and then somehow the cab is nearly empty the next time you need it! I try to buy two tins now so I have a backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJay Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 It's the same with WD40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yes, it should run, but the timing might be set for a higher octane. I've tried several choke positions and don't have any Easy Start. I've never used the stuff. Timing for octane/unleaded shouldn't matter for starting, it only tends to show up as pinking under load. I'd be expecting to need to strip the carb as I bet the jets are gummed up. alf892, barefoot, Talbot and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefag Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Sadly the house where Douglas lived is about 500m from where I type. It is now demolished and an old people’s home exists. In Bagshot? That wasn't his house. It was 'The Pantiles' TeaRoom, the place he first me his future wife, Thelma.http://www.bagshotvillage.org.uk/know/pantiles.shtml richardthestag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I have one of these. It is 2 degrees in the garage. It may not get fitted today...I'd be really interested to know how you get on with that. I've thought about making my own and then saw that for like £30. For that sort of money, if it's reliable then it doesn't make sense to make my own. As it keeps the existing points, if it does fail, it's very easy to swap back to straight points. I believe that's what the switch on the side is for? Using it means that the points should last so much longer. Like 70k+ longer. Also should mean that cheaper point contacts, that most now seem to be, should become acceptable. For others who don't know what it is, it basically makes almost electronic ignition but without having semiconductor devices in an area of hot and electrical noise (distributor). I also wonder if fitting an electronic ignition into a distributor too would mean that electronic ignition unit lasts longer. I've always been suspicious of them as apart from reports of failures, they never look big enough to fit decent drive electronics in. Where as an external ignition amplifier like that should be much more rugged. Fits between the coil and the points. Should be something easy enough to fit on most cars. Not really a new invention. Car manufacturers used it (termed TAI - Transistor Assisted Ignition) for a while before electronic pickups, then finally full electronic ignition came available. Not a bad price either too: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F391439313553 Is it a review unit? Fabergé Greggs, Rusty_Rocket and Datsuncog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I thought with a system like this you could completely do away with the condenser because that side of the circuit is taken care of by the electronics? If so, the one you have may very well be completely dead, try disconnecting it. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_dyane Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Electronic ignition is not really a solution; ultimately you need to get back to basics and ensure ignition system is functioning properly and strip and clean the carb at a minimum. 2p. Talbot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefag Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Never knew they did a cabrio. oldcars, Dick Longbridge, paulplom and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabergé Greggs Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I'd be really interested to know how you get on with that. I've thought about making my own and then saw that for like £30. For that sort of money, if it's reliable then it doesn't make sense to make my own. As it keeps the existing points, if it does fail, it's very easy to swap back to straight points. I believe that's what the switch on the side is for? Using it means that the points should last so much longer. Like 70k+ longer. Also should mean that cheaper point contacts, that most now seem to be, should become acceptable. For others who don't know what it is, it basically makes almost electronic ignition but without having semiconductor devices in an area of hot and electrical noise (distributor). I also wonder if fitting an electronic ignition into a distributor too would mean that electronic ignition unit lasts longer. I've always been suspicious of them as apart from reports of failures, they never look big enough to fit decent drive electronics in. Where as an external ignition amplifier like that should be much more rugged. Fits between the coil and the points. Should be something easy enough to fit on most cars. Not really a new invention. Car manufacturers used it (termed TAI - Transistor Assisted Ignition) for a while before electronic pickups, then finally full electronic ignition came available. Not a bad price either too: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F391439313553 Is it a review unit?Hmm interesting as I'll be replacing the Daf setup with electronic at some point. Could you use this with a powerspark system in the distributor hence going fully electric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I'm wondering if its simply a lack of electricity, if you only have a selection of half dead batteries all the juice is going to the starter and not going to leave enough to go to the plugs,just a thought.A spark with the plug out doesn't always translate to a spark under compression inside the engine. mat_the_cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 That's why I hooked the Nippa up. It's so close to firing up. No time for tinkering today. Bah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 dollywobbler, on 13 Dec 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:Bah. Timewaster, DeeJay, The Moog and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthebeard Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 An Invacar isn't a dirty word Blackadder... chaseracer, vulgalour and egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I thought with a system like this you could completely do away with the condenser because that side of the circuit is taken care of by the electronics? No, the Electronic aspect of it simply sorts out the switching and eliminates the issue with burning of points, (which causes poor current flow, alters the timing etc..) The condenser is still an essential part of the circuit, as without it you don't get the controlled change of magnetic field in the coil, and hence the spark will be pants. Even modernz still have a condenser buried somewhere in the circuit. pompei 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 All within the electronic box of gubbins, unless what you've got there is an ignition booster, then I can see it having a need for it as the points are still across the coil Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_the_cat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I'm wondering if its simply a lack of electricity, if you only have a selection of half dead batteries all the juice is going to the starter and not going to leave enough to go to the plugs,just a thought.A spark with the plug out doesn't always translate to a spark under compression inside the engine. Very true. A strobe timing lamp, with the pickup clipped to each HT lead in turn can be useful to determine whether plugs are actually firing under compression (for whatever reason). Also note that some electronic ignition kits can be sensitive to low battery voltage, although I take your point about the Nippa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 24v to the starter? often works on old shitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I remember dad doing that on reluctant Bedford cf diesels . Memories! Also reminded me of him stripping the twin wheel ones down to get them light enough to be under the ministry plate weight . As you were The Moog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dollywobbler Posted December 14, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2017 YES! Not all that clear there, but it is running. Blew the exhaust into pieces pretty much immediately. It's going to be an awesome next video! Cavcraft, dieselassist, mat_the_cat and 54 others 57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 ^^^ wasn't in gear, I see! TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 barefoot technical advise - shock horror! I'll bet you adjust the tension on that belt like on a VW with shims on the top pulley.Or not. Eddie Honda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_O Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 So when is the video coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 YES! Not all that clear there, but it is running. Blew the exhaust into pieces pretty much immediately. It's going to be an awesome next video!Awesome! Great progress there. How is the Lexarse? Edit: just seen that attempted fixage was done on that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Now you can use the invacar, Daihatsu and 2cv to jump the Lexus! All at the same time... billyboy406v6, LightBulbFun, Slartibartfast and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 So when is the video coming? Hopefully tomorrow. The Invacar was one ray of light in a day of fail, which sadly included broadband being fitted. The engineer's van broke down at one point, so he couldn't get back to fix the job. Then he got a jump start, came back and the cable that has been installed doesn't work... It's a big video by my standards. It's going to take some uploading! That may be it for the project until the New Year though. I've got so much work I need to do before Christmas. That's not far away now... Sigmund Fraud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Result well done. Looking forward to the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dollywobbler Posted December 15, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2017 It's now live! Steviemillar, Vantman, CGSB and 56 others 59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I have watched it! Many props to Mrs DW for putting up with such shenanigans.. Also, with the blown exhaust it sounds like the world's largest stihl saw Angrydicky, egg and dollywobbler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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