Station Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Now my carb is making a quacking noise. Fuck this! I'm sure they're not meant to quack like a duck.So to tick one more off the list: a) overfuels, cuts out when it feels like it,c) idles at 2000rpm - 4000rpmd) surges at randome) take ages to start in the morning,f) the choke mechanism is a complete joke consisting of three diaphragms, neither of which workg) quacks like a f*cking duck. Now is the time to ask - does anyone actually prefer carbs over fuel injection? (ie standard fuel injection vs standard carbs, not 50 carbs on an a-series) Ps ticking carbs also means you're probably a serial killer. overrun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Carbs are shit. PHAKT. Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucedoctor Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm quite fond of a nice carburettor, but there's no doubt that fuel injection is betterer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 whats this on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiny Norman Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Depends on the carb, and the health of the EFI system. If we're comparing a Solex 4AI 32/54 and a nice simple Bosch L Jetronic then the einspritzung wins hands down. But if it's an SU with a manual choke and half a dozen moving parts against some modern fly-by-wire eco management thing then give me the polished dome any day. Skizzer, saucedoctor, Asimo and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 LOL Shame, that car is so fun when it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Maybe it's ducked. HillmanImp, Banger Kenny, HMC and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taff Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 interweb points for anyone that name the 9 stages of carburation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Station Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 LOL Shame, that car is so fun when it works I know, I am persisting, but admit defeat with the standard carb and will get an adapter plate made for a Nikki. interweb points for anyone that name the 9 stages of carburation I bet the first few are open bonnet, frustration, get the bus? Taff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Patina Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Carbs bill in ten pound notes, compusquirt bills in overdrafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywacerwill Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Bike carb conversion needed. You can have hours of pleasure* adjusting up them mofos. My fear of wires puts me deep in the carb camp I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthyjohn Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What motor is that? It almost sounds like it's laughing, that would really boil my fluids. I used to have a volvo 340 with a cherry bomb as a centre box, it was always needing beefier mounts, and the prop had to come off a few times too. It made a really cheerful and loud 'TING' noise every time you knocked it with a spanner or ratchet, which was every 3 seconds because of limited space. Used to push me to the very edge of sanity. catsinthewelder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_the_cat Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I actually like wires, but still have a soft spot for carbs as thats what I grew up with. Plus, twaeking something physical and getting it running spot on (probably more by luck than judgement) is more satisfying than changing numbers in a table to map an injection system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 LPG the fucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I luv carbs. I'm sitting on my couch right now, and have 2 within arms length. I'd have more but have a wife. Bobthebeard, michael1703 and Skoze 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Carbs for me, at least when it goes wrong I generally know why unlike fuel injection. The miserly side of me prefers injection though as it's generally a more fuel efficient proposition. spike60 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacy Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 When carbs give you grief you long for the stability and reliability of fuel injection. When injection gives you grief you long for the simplicity and ease of understanding of carbs.....I have both, I love both when they are working, I hate both in equal measure when they aren't... DSdriver, catsinthewelder and stilo_active 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratdat Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I like both in their simpler forms. The carb on my Prairie is a fiendish contraption adorned with all sorts of mystery electrical things as well as the usual multitude of rods and levers. It doesn't quite function correctly and despite having a factory service manual, I've yet to fathom the issue. In comparison, Nissans with this same CA engine but EFi are considerably easier to diagnose. The beauty of them is being able to check individual functions and do diagnostics while the engine is running... something that's not easy or impossible with a carb. You can swap over a bit of an EFi system to check it very easily. That said, when we come to modern EFi systems the opposite become true. The Alfa 166 was immeasurably more complex that the rudimentary Nissan system of old. I dare say I could have dealt with it if need be but I don't think I would have enjoyed it much! I think that given the choice, for ultimate longevity and ease of repair a simple carb would win because when it finally goes wrong in 50 years time, there's not much in an old carb that, at a push, you couldn't make from scratch or repair. I can't make an ECU. mat_the_cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Almost every car I've owned has been carb-atron powers and touch wood I've not had any real problems bar adjustment issues.Never had any real problems with inj either though. I declare them both gr9/shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1703 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What model of carb? Is it an electronic or bimetallic choke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeKnight Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I love carbs, they give such a lovely rumble that's sanitised out with injection. ... except twin carbs like my GT6. They can die in a bloody fire. I SET YOU UP AND TWINNED YOU ALREADY, STOP GOING OUT OF SYNC. Asimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inconsistant Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 interweb points for anyone that name the 9 stages of carburation 1 Shock2 Denial3 Anger4 Physical Distress5 Guilt6 Bargaining7 Depression8 Testing9 Acceptance saucedoctor and Squire_Dawson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiny Norman Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 ^^^ You missed 'pleading'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugong Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 And 'swearing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overrun Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (Some) carbs for the nice throaty sound, like an S20 on triples... Injection for when you actually need a car to work.MFI may be the exception here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskine Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Carbs, definitely, too many sensors to go wrong with efi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratdat Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 My old Datsun 510 used to sound great even though it had a fairly modern 16 valve injected motor in it. It had quite a lot of induction roar and sounded more like it had twin 40's on it. It's was quite a big capacity (2.4) and the metal intake had only one bend in it between Apexi filter and throttlebody which probably contributed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordperv Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 im a carb fan, i love the sound and simplicity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire_Dawson Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The Luddite within me shouts "carbs!" I enjoy the simplicity and reliability of the SU, coupled with the fact that you can adjust, service and repair it yourself as long as you're sure what to do. It's important to me that I can do such work myself and don't have to take it to a garage,as well as the fact I enjoy doing these things. But I can appreciate that the more complex carbs with about 7 jets could be a ball-ache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geep Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Grew up with carbs, spent a lot of my formative mechanicing years with carbs so find then pretty easy to deal with. The rot set in when emissions were all the rage and they started trying to make em do things they really couldn't. See Ford VV, GM Varijet and VW Pierburg. SU can make variable venturi carbs, others can't, simple as that. The Op vid did make me laugh though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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