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So, this fuse keeps intermittently blowing, starts a few times then fuse goes again - Fuse 52 seems to be a common problem according to the Internet but no clear what the cure is, any Merc fettlers able to advise if its likely to be the starter itself?

Also, time for our trusty Mazda 3 which started this thread to leave the fleet.

Force Hail thread here

 

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Paint woes.

As covered elsewhere last year MrsFL & I found ourselves owners of a swb transit van in a deal too good to turn down, we're slowly converting to a camper but roller painted it green, having had it changed on the v5 i've been meaning to call the insurers and let them know, not expecting any agro I was surprised to find them refusing to quote, now expecting a callback tomorrow to see if they can sort it out..

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14 minutes ago, Talbot said:

Do the insurers ask what colour it is in the first place?  If not, how on earth would they know it has changed?

You’re then non declaring a modification thus invalidating the policy.

The fact it’s had a colour change recorded in Swansea will flag up the same way it would on places like CarBaba.

 

@FloatylightI assume you’re also aware those wheels need declaring, they’re Mk8 Transit/Tourneo wheels 


If you get knocked back by your insurer, PM me, I can possibly help 

 

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9 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

You’re then non declaring a modification thus invalidating the policy.

Do cosmetic modifications count the same as performace enhancing ones then?

Also, where is the cut-off for a cosmetic modification.  If they'd only painted the roof green, would that count as a modification?

Genuine questions.  I always feel like insurers are doing everything they can to wriggle out of liability, and seem to use any excuse.  "Oh no, you've fitted a factory dog guard.  That's a modification.  Your insurance is invalid"

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Just now, Talbot said:

Do cosmetic modifications count the same as performace enhancing ones then?

Also, where is the cut-off for a cosmetic modification.  If they'd only painted the roof green, would that count as a modification?

Genuine questions.  I always feel like insurers are doing everything they can to wriggle out of liability, and seem to use any excuse.  "Oh no, you've fitted a factory dog guard.  That's a modification.  Your insurance is invalid"

You’re confusing a temporary accessory with a modification.

A dog guard is the same as a roof box for example. 
 

Ultimately if you’re going by the book then it’s something that changes from how the vehicle left the factory, so yes painting the roof is a modification.

Changing the brand of brake pads is not a modification, fitting bigger calipers from a higher spec model is a modification.

 

Fitting Ford alloys if the vehicle left the factory on Steel wheels is a modification

 

There is however discretion from the insurers, I don’t have to list a tow bar as a mod but I know plenty of people that have done so and called to notify their insurer and then been told they have to remove it or change insurers… it’s a minefield 

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8 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

Fitting Ford alloys if the vehicle left the factory on Steel wheels is a modification

This one gets me every time.  If the vehicle could have come with optional wheels at the point of sale, and those wheels are later tracked down and fitted.... Is that a modification or simply changing it to the specification that it could have had from factory?

What I find frustrating is that there's no clear guidance or information out there, so you could easily fall foul of your own insurer's expectations without realising.

Apologies for slight thread de-railment!

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23 minutes ago, Talbot said:

This one gets me every time.  If the vehicle could have come with optional wheels at the point of sale, and those wheels are later tracked down and fitted.... Is that a modification or simply changing it to the specification that it could have had from factory?

What I find frustrating is that there's no clear guidance or information out there, so you could easily fall foul of your own insurer's expectations without realising.

Apologies for slight thread de-railment!

Modification 

Its modified from the spec the vehicle was when it left the factory, whether they’re Halfords specials or manufacturer wheels from a different model, it’s still modified as it’s not the same spec it was built with.

A good example is Ford do the Mountune version of the posh Focus and Fiesta models, now you could spec it from factory as a Mountune Focus for example, so that’s NOT modified as it was built to spec. 
 

However you could take a ‘normal’ posh focus to Mountune and have the kit fitted, which is all Ford approved, yet it’s then modified as it’s been fitted aftermarket.

Mad right? That case is a bit of a unicorn as basically every UK car has what’s known as an ABI code (association of British insurers) and factory Ford Mountune cars actually have their own ABI code so it’s instantly visible to see a factory vs aftermarket. 


If in doubt, ask, in the eyes of an insurers claim department they will say ignorance won’t wash - its down to the driver to ensure they’re insured correctly.

Don’t get me wrong, I agree it’s a fucking nightmare and for the record I don’t work for an insurance company so I have no say in how things work, but I work in the industry so have over 12 years experience of day to day dealings with this including multiple members of this very parish 

 

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2 hours ago, JJ0063 said:

@FloatylightI assume you’re also aware those wheels need declaring, they’re Mk8 Transit/Tourneo wheels 

Yes that dawned on me after I'd finished on the phone to them, the fact it's now got windows in the back also needs declaring, as I suppose does the fact it's got a towbar..  and isin the process of being converted into a camper I think I'll try some of the specialist insurers that cover self built motorhomes, if you can help pm me!

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13 minutes ago, Floatylight said:

Yes that dawned on me after I'd finished on the phone to them, the fact it's now got windows in the back also needs declaring, as I suppose does the fact it's got a towbar..  and isin the process of being converted into a camper I think I'll try some of the specialist insurers that cover self built motorhomes, if you can help pm me!

Ping me your name, postcode and number and I’ll give you a call ;)

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I think you might possibly need a broker rather than trying to deal directly with the insurers

Our business insurance is so convoluted as it includes everything - public liability, employers liability, road risk, etc is all done by one broker and it's so much easier. They've got us cover for everyone (named on the policy) to drive anything their licence entitles them to while in our care, no strings attached and it's so easy having it all in one place. 

I know motor trade insurance is totally different to personal car insurance but I think my point should still stand - if you're trying to insure anything out of the ordinary try a broker, explaining everything on the face of it and you should hopefully get somewhere

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On 20/07/2023 at 09:25, Talbot said:

Do cosmetic modifications count the same as performace enhancing ones then?

Also, where is the cut-off for a cosmetic modification.  If they'd only painted the roof green, would that count as a modification?

Genuine questions.  I always feel like insurers are doing everything they can to wriggle out of liability, and seem to use any excuse.  "Oh no, you've fitted a factory dog guard.  That's a modification.  Your insurance is invalid"

When I insured the Dyane, I caused much mirth at the broker when I declared the 'Welsh flag' bonnet and yellow driver's door as well as the expensive engine modifications - and then sent photos/invoices to support.  The £7k agreed value was their suggestion, so it can be helpful!

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