doubleyeller Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Didn't have my camera with me, but saw one of these in White in Sheffield the other day, the first for probably 5 years - which made me reflect: these have nearly all gone!!! But where did they all go to and when?They were on every street in the year 2000, now they've gone the way of the dodo. The R21 GTS for example - 8200 examples in 2001; 11 left by 2017, which if you're geeky gives an average scrappage rate of 10 a week! What are we saying? Does it's new found obscurity qualify it as shite yet? I say YES!! And the 21 saloon even more so...An amusing article on the (come to think of it equally rare) R21 model in general here: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj4_-rFzY7YAhUEY1AKHfPcBwoQjxwIAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aronline.co.uk%2Far-cars%2Fnot-their-finest-hour-renault-21%2F&psig=AOvVaw2b6B6HZQHALPflizZM_BBi&ust=1513516227479023 chodweaver and Laseraligningfoofooflanges 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinkersaab Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I liked these. Sold a few over the years and briefly had a phase 2 turbo. I regularly pester a chap who has a 1 owner g plate TXI with the 2.0 12v engine and only 25k...i am hopeful that one day it will enter the collection. the estate were roomy cars too, were they a longer wheel base than the 4/5 door ones or was it an illusion? rantingYoof and Nicola H 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcyonecorporation Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It was telefragged by your mum bub2006 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The turbo sakoons were a real sleeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcyonecorporation Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The turbo sakoons were a real sleeper. Did anyone make the inevitable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 the estate were roomy cars too, were they a longer wheel base than the 4/5 door ones or was it an illusion? I think they were; and the different front ends depending on whether the car had a transverse 1.7 or longways 2.0 meant the 21 could be had with four wheelbases. Crazy, and yet so French. NorfolkNWeigh, DSdriver, Nicola H and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There was one near me until recently a 21Turbo. I think they used to suffer problems with the cooling system quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The turbo sakoons were a real sleeper. Did anyone make the inevitable? Sakoon is an Islamic counselling service for people feeling anxious or depressed. There must be a link between this and owning a 17 year old Renault, but I just can't put my finger on it. Lord Sterling, chaseracer, NorfolkNWeigh and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 They probably all went the same way as my dad's 21 saloon. It dropped all it's brake fluid on the exhaust manifold to set light to itself at 70mph... Seemed a nice car till then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselnutjob Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Seven seats like the 505, and I think that they were forward facing.Killed by the Sharalaxy etcCopied by the Zafira etc. Personally I liked the concept of a large estate with seats in the boot and I think it's a shame that the concept has gone. DSdriver, Chris2cv and Nicola H 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Jimmy Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Farmer I knew had an estate, he loved it and looked after it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermchugh79 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 One from the nec last year Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk alcyonecorporation, Dick Longbridge and Dirk Diggler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panhard65 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I owned this one twice. I think the second time I sold it the guy who bought it killed it, 2.1 turbo diesel HMC, RobT and Skizzer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I use a 21 txt hatch as a tow truck, on the road right now. It's ok, not that special. Boggers, save for a set of 25 pepper pots. My early 21 turbo though, is an absolute hoon. Love it to bits, not well enough to even consider recommissioning right now. Overall, they're OK, if a little ordinary. Rare now, but that doesn't make them valuable. Skizzer, chaseracer and Dick Longbridge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I tried to buy one several times in the late '90s but nearly all of them were seven seaters, which I didn't want. There was a 4x4 I tried but the luggage area was seriously spoiled by the rear axle. (Seller was absolutely raving drunk, which didn't help!) Two I've seen this last year or so: RobT and Skizzer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercrocker Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 In 2031, I understand, we are due to resurrect the last one from a drive-way somewhere in the Home Counties. If anybody has any parts could they kindly look after them for the next seven and a half years? Can we even A-frame on a Tesla? inconsistant, NorfolkNWeigh, DSdriver and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleyeller Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 In 2031, I understand, we are due to resurrect the last one from a drive-way somewhere in the Home Counties. If anybody has any parts could they kindly look after them for the next seven and a half years? Can we even A-frame on a Tesla? Lol if that is a swipe at my R30 "Phoenix" efforts, then it was witty and I salute you sir! Actually I might call the R30 Phoenix, very appropriate given the circumstances!! mercrocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramz7 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I'd like to try one, but they're never ever up for sale now, and if they are, it's usually for ££££ in Ireland, like most rare Renaults these days (see also Peugeots). Bloody loads in France though so importing one probably would be easiest now, and they're not worth much there. These or the Montego seemed the default 7 seat estate back in the day. mercrocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I'd like to try one, but they're never ever up for sale now, and if they are, it's usually for ££££ in Ireland, like most rare Renaults these days (see also Peugeots). Bloody loads in France though so importing one probably would be easiest now, and they're not worth much there. These or the Montego seemed the default 7 seat estate back in the day.Of all the people on this forum you'll the person I'll be least surprised to buy one or 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 A mate's mam has one on a J plate.I'll try and get some photo's next time i'm over that way(I was this morning but hadn't seen this thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Overall, they're OK, if a little ordinary. Rare now, but that doesn't make them valuable. Undeniably so, but it doesn't stop them being very appealing to the electronic parishioners hereabouts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davocano Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I found a Savanna in August this year... ... and a Turbo in 2013. ProgRocker, Lacquer Peel, egg and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleyeller Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 Undeniably so, but it doesn't stop them being very appealing to the electronic parishioners hereabouts! Not sure if they're Autoshite in the true sense of the word, as they were very popular when new. However they are certainly an oddball unusual choice these days that most people wouldn't be seen dead in, so I think they have "arrived" on these electronic shores SOMEONE GET ONE BOUGHT SO WE CAN TAKE THE PISS OUT OF YOU!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I used to pass a green one of these in someone's driveway every day on my way in to work up to about 2 years ago. Then suddenly one day it was gone and replaced with a silver Galaxy. I'm still kicking myself for not putting a note through the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleyeller Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 I used to pass a green one of these in someone's driveway every day on my way in to work up to about 2 years ago. Then suddenly one day it was gone and replaced with a silver Galaxy. I'm still kicking myself for not putting a note through the door. Yeah but lets face it, to keep a Savanna that long, chances are it had a pretty well terminal problem for them to get rid of it? I'd say you dodged a bullet there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Ok -they ain;t Savannas, but heres my 21 GTX a couple of months back -doing sterling towing duties.A normally aspirated 2 litre its quite a torquey lump, and quite well suited to heavy haul. Its virtually all it gets used for! and heres my 21 Turbo, looking disgracefully neglected -a few years back. Totally standard now save a recent set of Silverstone alloys, it is virtually road ready. sadly the clutch is just too heavy for my damaged leg, so having the pair together will just have to wait. I like them, competent but a bit ordinary (for me). Craig the Princess, Skizzer, RobT and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleyeller Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 As usual, Mr B can account for 50% of the surviving population! mercrocker and inconsistant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The turbo sakoons were a real sleeper.My typing is like my choice in cars. Shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Badger Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 My cousin had a 21 Quadra turbo which did it's very best to bankrupt him for the 4 years he had it, seriously quick when it was working but everything had to come from a main dealer after waiting 2 weeks for it to be shipped over from France. Looked awesome in black with red detailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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