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  1. As others have asked, do you like the car? If you still enjoy it (and maybe pending a better price for fixing it) get it fixed, if you are bored / don't want it then get rid. My 2cv reached the sensible point of no return 17 years ago. Somebody hit it, bending the chassis. It was then worth virtually nothing. So I bought the Clio. But I still loved the 2cv, so I got a new chassis and got it going again. For the next 10 -15 years it alternated cheap MOT or bad MOT, but never horrific (with 1 or 2 exceptions) so I kept it going. And it is still going. It is now worth far more than I paid for it. But considerably less than I have spent on it. So, nearly 3 years ago, the Clio was now 14 years old, tax laws were changing, meaning it was worth getting a new car before it went up. The Clio was getting old and it made sense to get shot before something expensive broke. So I bought the Stepway. But I still enjoyed driving the Clio, and my dad needed a runabout. So I kept it. And it is still going. And nothing serious has broken. So I accidentally ended up with 3 cars, and a moped. So, the moral is, if it's a good car that you enjoy, even if nobody else likes it, then keep it. If you have had enough, bung a roffle on here. Or just hoard cars, like I do.
  2. They have a 2cv at Beaulieu that has only done a similar mileage, and I always have a good look, to see how my car looked when he was new, but I wouldn't want to own it. It is near unique (as clearly there is at least one other) but as soon as you use it, it becomes a low mileage 2cv and then a 2cv. But if you don't use it then it might as well be in a museum. My own 2cv is not immaculate, the various wear and grazes tell the story of a life, of the adventures that we (and the previous owners) have had, of him (and it is a he) being one of the family. This car may have more monetary value, but it doesn't seem to have any emotional value.
  3. There is (or at least was last year) one of them on the Isle of Wight, near Ryde. Thought it was an odd kit car, so rather surprised to find the truth, and that it is so rare. Probably understandable though!
  4. I think the idea was that the Sultan likes rare cars so they would offer him one or both at the end, although the idea apparently changed after the discrimination upset. It seemed a little flimsy, but a lot of these ideas are probably best not scrutinised too hard, While I like the Allegro (and nearly owned an estate some years back) it did seem a waste of the Matra when it would obviously struggle to complete a journey it was never meant to do, which at least the Allegro stood a chance of completing. That said, there was a lot less (although not none) pointless destruction which was one thing that always wound me up before. It wasn't a bad episode, I wont say that I was gripped, but I was entertained. Better without the bullying as well.
  5. I missed last week, as I was busy, but made the effort this week, to actually watch and give it a fair chance, instead of playing internet or having it on in the background. It was pretty good, a good mix of entertainment and a proper review as well. The bit with the hearse was genuinely entertaining, and I will watch again. My only real concern is that it does still look like the others bully Chris Harris, I know that there is a fine line between banter and bullying but I was not always convinced that it fell the right side. Perhaps I am a little over sensitive on this. Incidentally, Jerzy Woking, I was looking at those electric scooters last week, as my moped is "getting a bit" knackered. I have seen some excellent reviews and some not so good ones, so will be interested in your experiences.
  6. I thought it was a pretty good show. There seemed to be some big gaps, despite it being a nice day,( if not that sunny) but what was there was interesting. I will say that I normally struggle to get around everything, but was doing second laps by about 3, and I had watched the stunt show! Most people I know used to go (I live a few miles away) and this has dropped off quite a bit. I hope that Kelsey can bring it back up again. I did see someone with an old Rover who had an Autoshite sticker, and also the Hubnut stand, but as has been said, always busy. To be fair, my earlier description of myself did seem to apply to rather a lot of people there! I enjoyed it.
  7. Not saying that I was a massive fan, but he seemed enthusiastic and pretty genuine in his presenting, just a fairly normal guy (I suppose the Hammond of that version). Harris is obviously the one with the knowledge about cars, (May) where Matt was the "personality". I would have thought it better to have bought in a new third presenter and kept Chris and Rory, instead of what happened. But, time will tell.
  8. In the past, yes they did, because I had the "pleasure" of this job one year. While it was quite amusing slyly watching people walk through the woods, and then appearing as they reached the fence, it also meant a lot of abuse from people who thought that they shouldn't have to pay! More recently they just secured fencing over any gaps.
  9. I will be there, although I am borrowing Dad's MX5 mk1 as I don't enjoy motorways in the 2cv. I have been going for 20 odd years, and used to work it in the past. I will agree that it did loose it's way a bit for some years, but I have heard that Kelsey publishing now own it again. I know in the past that they put a hell of a lot of work into it, whereas the (then) new owners seemed to just see it as another show and not really care very much. This may be unfair, but seemed to be a fairly common view amongst people I spoke to. We will see what this year brings. I will be the slightly odd chap with awful shirt, poundland sunglasses and rylanesque beard! ( I wonder why I am single!)
  10. As I have said, I enjoyed the Clarkson era, but not the destruction of classics. In the early years, I stopped watching for some time because they seemed to destroy 2cvs regularly (or I saw the same episode several times!) but it did get better. I wont deny there was destruction, but it did seem to become more about the presenters than "let's smash an old car!" While the Reliant episode IS funny, was it really much funnier than the Peel one, where nothing got destroyed? The destruction seemed to continue to some degree in every version that has followed, including the crash in the last episode. If things happen, fair enough, but deliberate crashing doesn't really amuse me. There did seem to be quite a bit of bullying of Chris Harris in this last episode, but I only saw the second half so there may have been some balance. Will have to see if this is "banter" or worse. I quite liked Rory, although it seems many didn't, and am yet to be convinced by the new team, but I will watch again.
  11. I have watched Top Gear in its various forms for nearly 30 years. I will admit I was a big fan of Clarkson era, but have given each new version a chance. The Evans version was pretty grim, (although I believe that series was always doomed to fail regardless of presenter) and Matt was not much better to begin with, but over time it seemed to find it's feet and the last series was actually pretty good. Maybe not the best, but certainly enjoyable. I was not particularly looking forward to the new series as it seemed like they were stepping right back, having finally got it good. I missed the first 20 minutes, which was perhaps unfair, but what I did see was alright. I wasn't blown away, and indeed was playing internet after a while, but it was far from the worst episode I have seen. I will stick with it, and give it a fairer chance, actually paying proper attention. I am not convinced yet, but will keep watching.
  12. I would happily collect Citroens, but as with most people, space, time and money (not necessarily in that order) means that I cant get any more cars. Apparently 3 is "more than you need!" I was thinking about my life with my 2cv, it has accompanied me on many an adventure, from slightly odd teenager, over 23 years, to slightly odd man. It doesn't get nearly enough use, but I try to do as much as I can. Rather than name my best times with it, I thought it might be more interesting to detail some of the worst journeys instead! Firstly, and most recently, a few months back, I decided to take it for a ride. It was a bit windy as I went to the garage, but I shifted the cars and junk blocking it in, and got it going. The garage door blowing shut twice should have been my warning! I drove up through the village and all was fine, a bit cloudy, but the car was running well. Up across the country lanes, past Manston, when suddenly, I could barely hold the car in its lane. Being a (currently closed) airport, it is very flat, and the wind felt like it was going to blow the car away. I turned in to more built up roads, passing Tesco (which lost part of its roof that day) down towards Margate, where the bonnet started flexing! I had to fix the passenger window open as it kept blowing open, and it was very hard to keep it on the road. Weirdly, there were few other cars out and about (can't think why!) but I was in real fear of serious damage to the car, me, or both of us. Back to the garage, and out in the Stepway, which probably weighs more than twice the amount, and could barely even tell it was windy! Second, driving up the M2, bringing the car home some years back, it was running brilliantly, bombing along and we made great time. I thought it a bit odd that my parents, who were following in their car, were sitting so close behind, but his car was 25 years younger, so would have better brakes I thought. Eventually we got back and Dad said "I know you like to leave the lights off until it gets fully dark, but that was an hour ago, what were you thinking?" I was confused, my lights were on, still on as we spoke in fact! Not at the back though it turned out! I had done 70 miles, in the dark, on the M2 and M25 with no rear lights! They were so close behind, to stop anyone from hitting me! There were 17 missed calls from Mum, I hadn't heard a thing! The rear lights also once did it in the centre of Croydon, late at night, some years before. Third, my Brother and I went to Bournemouth. Lovely time there, but absolutely torrential rain all the way there and all the way home, stopping as soon as we arrived at both ends. For some reason, the drivers wiper was moving further than usual, and caught between the A pillar and the aerial mast that the previous owner fitted. Every singly time. I had to drive over 100 miles with my hand out the window, pushing it back out. Every single time. (Yes, thinking back, why the hell didn't I pull it off and refit it?) Fourth and probably second worst trip ever - We (me, my parents and my Nan ) had been away for the weekend. Dad was staying another night, for work, so Mum and I were taking Nan back to her house in the 2cv, before returning home. Nan was in her late 80's at this time, and would never pass a public toilet As we rounded the M25, I said my usual "anyone for the services?", a couple of miles before we reached them. "No, let's get home" they said. As we passed the services, Nan said "can we stop!" "Well not now" I said! I pulled off at the next junction, earlier than I would normally and went looking for a toilet. It was about 10pm on a Sunday night, so not looking promising. At the time I was a van driver, and knew that Esso garages normally had a public toilet. A few miles later, I found one and asked the chap inside if he minded Nan using it, as I didn't actually need any fuel. He let her in, but in typical Nan style, she didn't lock the door, so I had to stand outside to save anyone else from the nightmare within. Certainly the volume suggested it was not fun. It felt like she was in there for several hours, but probably actually about 10 minutes. As we left she whispered in the extremely loud way that only Nan could "IT JUST WOULDNT FLUSH, THERE WAS SO MUCH!" I have never returned to that petrol station. I had no idea where we were, and of course no sat nav then. Mum said "I know this road, there is a church and a house nearby (thereby describing practically every village in the world!) and left me to it as we drove through thick fog somewhere near Kenley. After about 20 minutes we passed a church and a house. "You see!" she said. Eventually I found a road that I knew, we got Nan home and headed home. None of this was the car's fault, but is a journey that neither I, my mum (Nan has since died) or probably the poor chap at Esso, will ever forget. Sorry mate. Lastly (sorry this has become a bit of an epic) and probably the worst trip ever. The car had been away for MOT for a month, with my (now ex) mechanic. I had to get the car 70 miles from the Kent coast to home, Mum was with me (Dad seems to get away with these trips) as was my (now late) dog Tom. My brother and his wife (and their cats) were following in their car, as they had been visiting and would be dropping Nan home to Carshalton on route (yes, it's her again!) . About 3 miles into the trip, there was an awful smell (not Nan or Tom related) followed by the car filling with smoke. Obviously this wasn't good, so we got off the main road and stopped ASAP. It turned out that the mechanic had spilled oil all over the engine and this was now burning off. Not a massive problem, but I had lost my nerve, so we stuck to what I call the "old A2", through all the Medway towns. Unfortunately, while I have done this route a number of times, it was virtually always in the opposite direction, and there are quite a few one way systems and parts that I could not follow. And traffic lights seemingly every 100 yards. For 70 miles. As we approached Rochester (at least an hour into the journey) my brother shouted from the car behind "Nan needs a shit!" I doubt that that was what she actually said, but once more we were searching for a public toilet at about 10pm on a Sunday night. I remembered one near the centre and we had a RADAR key, so we stopped there. Padlocked. Bugger. So they headed to a nearby pub. I didn't want to turn the 2cv off, as it would be a sod to start after that journey, if they returned after only a few minutes. Which they didn't. We decided to exercise Tom while we waited, but could not go far from the car obviously. "Where's Tom's lead?" "Oh he got in the car without it on!" I was told . So I had to use my belt, and hold him with one hand, and my trousers up with the other, as nobody helped, but several laughed. After seemingly several hours Nan returned, and we continued. That journey saw seemingly about a million red traffic lights and we got in after about 3 hours instead of the maybe 90 minutes it should have taken. Again, mostly, not the car's fault, but to this day, one of the worst journeys ever. Having said all that, the car has seen me through a lot. There are times when it seems determined to kill me, resists any attempts that I make to improve it and so on, but I could never sell it.
  13. Dieselassist - It's an interesting point. When does it stop being the same car? To me, doing the same sort of things over a long period of time would be fine, but changing everything at once might feel different. Few people would expect the above cars to be totally original, but should you declare a new shell? Is an engine replacement ok? With 2cvs, my colleague says that they carried chassis in stock when he worked at a Citroen dealer in the 80's! . For example the Scenic Railway at Dreamland Margate is nearly 100 years old. But it had a fire in the 50's or 60's loosing part of the track, and another about 10 years ago which led to a total rebuild. But how much of the (wooden) structure would have been original anyway, with wear and tear etc? So is it the same ride? I would actually say yes, as it is to the the original design and standards but others think differently. Regardless, it is my favourite roller coaster, and I have ridden it 15 times in the last month! Getting back on topic, I cannot see any legitimate reason to buy paperwork for a car that you do not own. I have been given old Haynes books or car information for various cars as people know that I like old cars, but would not buy someones logbook, without a car, . I have some for long dead cars that we once owned, but if it ever gets cleared out, it will be destroyed, not sold to make it easy for someone to steal another car. To be fair, the sort of cars that we have owned in the past are probably all dead and valueless anyway! (present fleet excluded)
  14. it is mostly wear and tear as it gets older. I know that the lack of use doesn't help, but the distance and lack of free time means that it is how it has to be. I do seem to hold on to things, the 2cv will be 25 years in September, the Clio (which replaced the 2cv as my main car) since 2002 and the Stepway (which replaced the Clio as my main car) in 2017. But yet they are all still here. As is the moped (since 2010)!
  15. Thought that I had already posted on here, but apparently not. Surprisingly, given my name, I have a 2cv! I have owned it since September 1994 (!) and it was my first car. We have had all sorts of adventures over the years, but it is mostly retired now. I still try and use it at least monthly, but it lives in a garage at my parents house, 70 miles from me, so this is not always possible. In regards to the values, I paid £270, which was not a bad deal, considering that it needed new floors (done again last year) and is now worth more than 10 times this (probably) but I am unlikely to ever even break even on the car, let alone make money on it. But that is not the point. It is a basic runabout, that is also fun to drive and a convertible. I enjoy almost every journey in it, and take it out for pleasure where the other cars are used to get somewhere. It is not immaculate, but it is "honest". The "dalmation skin" door cards (not real obviously) are an "individual" choice, that were there when I got it, but it looked so dull without them, that I put them back on! It is not entirely standard, or original but remains mostly as it left the factory, if only in the "Trigger's broom" sense with some things. It caused me to have a cough for years, some journeys in it remain among the worst that I have ever had (not always the car's fault) and there are times when I really should have just got rid of it. But I can't. It is family now. Nowadays the good times far out number the bad.
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