Broadsword Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Eddie Honda said: Thank you for choosing Broadsword Motors. Your Jaaaag is our concern. Come sale/roffle time don’t forget to pop a bible in the glovebox then claim it had 16 previous careful priest owners before yourself. bangernomics, Shirley Knott, Eddie Honda and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Hunt Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Not been around for a while, then the site was down for maintenance and upgrade, then errrr the bike is up for Roffle.....no sold outright, Roffle off, car collected, back in Scotland or is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 Yes. Back in Scotland. I'll be a spit of where it was last MoT'd tomorrow as I'll be in Arbroath for the footie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montytom Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Loving the Jag and the coat. I'd love to own a jag somewhen. Good luck with it love the colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssDeeWon Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Love that jag, moar picz plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Jaaag went into the garage last Friday morning to deal with the rear end rattle. Was still in bits at teatime when I got and update. Bolts seized and on order so delayed until Tuesday. Got a call Tuesday lunchtime and ready for collection. Total, £507.36. Sent Jeeves down to get the car and the rear rattle is no more. I might have a waft later... paulplom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRi05 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I miss having a Jaaaaaaaaag. bangernomics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Jazoli, EssDeeWon, bangernomics and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuboy Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, Eddie Honda said: Got a call Tuesday lunchtime and ready for collection. Total, £507.36. 22 minutes ago, SRi05 said: I miss having a Jaaaaaaaaag. see aboves bill.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Mostly labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Good on you for taking the plunge rather than just punting it on/running it into the ground. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazoli Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Eddie Honda said: haha I got an email about it passing earlier as its still on my knowyourcar app! What was the source of the rattle then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Do tell where that rattle came from! Exhaust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 My X-308 used to have rattly shock absorbers. Eddie Honda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazoli Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, SiC said: Do tell where that rattle came from! Exhaust? It wasn't the exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Hunt Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Congrats on the MOT pass and well done on the 'clunk and click' elimination investment. great to see the bike surface again. bangernomics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Rattle was lower shock spherical bearings. barefoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Just the Aircon left to fix now! But then this is up in Scotland and much less need for it up there Wingz123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 In the grand scheme of things 4 hours labour isn't bad compared with me swearing at the rusted bolts. I've no idea how much labour rates are these days, so any info would be appreciated. I'm told it's very good. bangernomics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Great stuff on getting work done and MOT passed. I don't quite get what they are charging you for on the parts front. The bushings for the rear shocks are cheap (£15 each I believe). I understand it's a difficult job, but what is the "spheri joint" at £145? When I glanced at the price I thought oh they have gone and changed the rear subframe bushes, which is much harder. I had that done on my red XJR, but even that came to just under £300 with parts. For that job you have to drop part of the rear sub-frame, so it's fairly tough. I wouldn't call the labour rate "very good", more in keeping with specialist rates I think. Medium good perhaps. It's the parts cost I genuinely cannot get my head around. Eddie Honda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_Pirate Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Well done for tackling this, clearly it's in good hands. Eddie Honda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 9:38 PM, Broadsword said: Great stuff on getting work done and MOT passed. I don't quite get what they are charging you for on the parts front. The bushings for the rear shocks are cheap (£15 each I believe). I understand it's a difficult job, but what is the "spheri joint" at £145? When I glanced at the price I thought oh they have gone and changed the rear subframe bushes, which is much harder. I had that done on my red XJR, but even that came to just under £300 with parts. For that job you have to drop part of the rear sub-frame, so it's fairly tough. I wouldn't call the labour rate "very good", more in keeping with specialist rates I think. Medium good perhaps. It's the parts cost I genuinely cannot get my head around. Parts as per bill part number. I gather from that they are something like Lemforder and not complete no-name parts. On that basis and delivered it would be fairer to put the price of a pair at £56, which granted will still leave you confused with the price mark-up. Me too, but I'm not losing sleep over it. (Last time I used a garage for repairs was 1991). As I've no idea about rates in this case -£65 (£78 with VAT) - I've only commented on the time of 2 hours per side. (The last time I paid labour was at a Kawasaki main dealer in 1996 and that was £32 (£37.60 inc.)) I did briefly consider having a go, but the price of a return ferry to bring the tools to, let alone finding somewhere to work on it and potential for overruns quickly knocked it on the head. Broadsword 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 AFAIK looking back through threads, it's always had this tapping and nobody has dared/attempted curing it. Tommy took it in for a quote and bar the seized bottom bolts, the work that was quoted for late June as needing doing was accurate. Broadsword 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Equalizer Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 It is a Jag you are running. What was this new in real terms? £45k probably. Lovely cars need a few Bob spent on then now and again. I am busting to own a X308. Broadsword 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Eddie Honda said: Parts as per bill part number. I gather from that they are something like Lemforder and not complete no-name parts. On that basis and delivered it would be fairer to put the price of a pair at £56, which granted will still leave you confused with the price mark-up. Me too, but I'm not losing sleep over it. (Last time I used a garage for repairs was 1991). As I've no idea about rates in this case -£65 (£78 with VAT) - I've only commented on the time of 2 hours per side. (The last time I paid labour was at a Kawasaki main dealer in 1996 and that was £32 (£37.60 inc.)) I did briefly consider having a go, but the price of a return ferry to bring the tools to, let alone finding somewhere to work on it and potential for overruns quickly knocked it on the head. I guess at the end of the day it makes sense, I stand corrected. The specialist needs to make its markup somewhere and they are doing it on the parts. At least what parts went on there are good quality so there won’t be a need to rush back there again doing the same job. When I got rear subframe bushes done on my XJR (another major reason for rear and knocking) it was a similar situation with the seized bolts etc. My local mechanic showed me just how hard it was to undo some of the bolts under there at which point I too realised there was no way this could be done DIY, so yeah it would end up at at a mechanic anyway with the shock absorbers. In my case the seized bolts and bits and bobs added hours to the labour costs but I bought the parts which kept the cost down somewhat. Eddie Honda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, The_Equalizer said: It is a Jag you are running. What was this new in real terms? £45k probably. Lovely cars need a few Bob spent on then now and again. I am busting to own a X308. If you haven’t had a 90s XJ yet I would recommend staring with an X300, then graduating to the X308. Starting with the simpler car is an easier way in to the whole XJ thing. Engines and gearboxes are pretty much unbreakable on a reasonably well maintained X300. Things are slightly more complicated with the V8s, but the 4.0 V8 in particular is very nice. The X308 XJR is exceedingly fast and it’s lure is rather strong I must I admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 I'm grateful on the input on hourly labour rates as I honestly don't have a clue. I did ask if it might need doing anything else while he was in there and I was told no. I'm not too bothered about it at the minute as I went into ownership with my eyes open and was prepared to roll with the bills - it's like owning a football club! Broadsword and Tickman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Equalizer Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Broadsword said: If you haven’t had a 90s XJ yet I would recommend staring with an X300, then graduating to the X308. Starting with the simpler car is an easier way in to the whole XJ thing. Engines and gearboxes are pretty much unbreakable on a reasonably well maintained X300. Things are slightly more complicated with the V8s, but the 4.0 V8 in particular is very nice. The X308 XJR is exceedingly fast and it’s lure is rather strong I must I admit. Cheers for the tips. I have my eye on a 4-litre X308 with 43k miles. It is up for £3750 which isn't too strong provided it has been looked after. Would love a XJR, but decent mileage ones - including Jap imports- are £7k plus. I have seen XKRs cheaper now. I have run Mercs of a similar period so (fingers crossed) should be okay. Broadsword 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve79 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 The issue with the x308 is their propensity to shit their gearbox's. This is mainly due to lack of maintainence. You really need to change the box oil regularly. My 3.2 sport had its box oil changed by the main stealer in Surrey at every main service at £400 a go from new and even that's no guarantee of longevity! The issue is that the 3.2/4.0 box doesn't have a dipstick so you can't check the oil for either level or condition. By the time a problem rears its head it's too late and needs a rebuild. 2nd hand boxes are very much "you pays your money and takes you chance". They also need filling at a certain temperature range as well. The x308 xjr box is a different kettle of fish as it's from mercedes (Jag boxes couldnt cope with the torque) and have a dipstick. Having had a 3.2 sport in both x300 and x308 flavours, I my opinion I would say that the x308 was a nicer car to drive but felt A LOT more fragile than the x300. Both rot equally as badly in the front legs and front floor pans. Having said that I would have either again in a heartbeat. The_Equalizer and Broadsword 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingz123 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Forgive me but completely new to Jags but does an x350 xj6 (3.0) have the same box as yours? Zf6hp I think would be the code in mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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