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#61 OFFLINE   Rusty Sills

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:36 AM


I've no experience of the Focus but have of some of the other contenders.

Clio 172/182s can be had for under a grand. They are great fun but WILL break. They can also be challenging to work on.

Civic Type Rs go like fuck but most have been barried. You'd also need to spend nigh on £2k to buy one that's not a wreck, unless you ask me very nicely :)

A Corolla or Celica T-Sport is a leftfield choice. The Corolla is pretty bland but the Celica is a nice wee car.They both come with a 1.8 190 bhp engine that won't stop reving til you're over 8000rpm. Best of all you can sell it to me once you're done so I can stick the engine into the MR2


If I recall the 190 engine almost never made the power Toyota claimed. 170 was more likely. Not too bad but not a proper replacement for the GT4. I would like T-Sport Celica, but they're getting old now.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:55 AM

I think that I would be passing on the Focus and looking for a good early Octavia vrs. The 1.8 turbos have a lot of cheap vag upgrade potential and the rest of the car will survive very high miles.

However I still like the MK1 focus and see why an ST170 is an attractive buy.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:14 AM

I don't think the ST170 ever existed as an estate out of the factory?

 

 

A mate has one.

 

A good clean ST170 is the Ford to buy now. It's the Mark 1 Mexico of Focusususses. Remember when Mexicos were worthless? Focus RS values (the proper 5 pot one) have really taken off and they're out of reach now. A really nice Imperial blue 3 door (forget the rest) with sensible miles is going to be a free car - you will get all your money back and then some.

 

You need to look at it as a long term thing - keep it five years. The shit ones will be gone and nice ones will be 5 grand.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:19 AM

We'll all be in Lleafs and burnt out Teslas (stoved into an Armco by the autopilot) in 5 years.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 11:23 AM

Some of us are already, so I hope I've upgraded by 5 years time
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:42 AM

https://rover.ebay.c...tm/123259627238


Proof if any were required that St170 estates exist.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:56 AM

No advisories for rot anywhere, have you bought it yet?

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:43 AM

No advisories for rot anywhere, have you bought it yet?



No. But.



https://rover.ebay.c...tm/192603230260



I r high bidder.


Needs new number plates as the ones on it have seemingly delaminated causing a blurring effect. Other than that, it looks ok. In the pics.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:05 AM

They are starting to fetch good coin those estates. Will watch that listing with interest.

Edit: *Cutrent high bidder.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:22 AM

Estates are a nice rarity, especially in a good colour.  I reckon either one of the ST170-only blues or grey are best, black not so much in my humble opinion.  All the black ones seem to look very scruffy but then again it doesn't hide scratches and scuffs very well.  That one Jimx2 found looks alright though, it's got the desirable Xenons and climate control, might have the quickclear windscreen too - best check that all works though!

 

There's a few unique bits under the bonnet on an ST170 that can give trouble, various minor things can cause the EML to come on and often it seems to be a persistent niggle that stays with the car for years.  The IMRC (Inlet Manifold Runner Control) seems to be very common:

 

http://fordclub.co.u...transistor-fix/

 

Something to look out for.  I'm not convinced mine is working properly, it's running really well and drives so much better now than it did when I got it following a full set of new ignition bits and a fuel filter but there's still an odd hesitation around 2000RPM, which the ST170 is well known for.  


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:25 AM

I bought a six month-old Silver 3-door ST170 with Custom Pack in 2003. AE52 VEP - Looks like it might have died in 2016.

 

As previously stated, everything happens at the top of the rev range, which is great fun when you're in the mood, but for everyday driving, they can feel a little flat.

 

Thirstiest car 'everyday' I've ever owned - Averaged around 25mpg.

 

Interior was pretty low rent and only redeemed by the heated leather Recaros which were excellent. The stereo with the sub-woofer in the boot was good too.

 

I didn't really bond with it at the time, and traded it within 10 months for a VW Golf V5 170 Sportline which was a far superior car in everyway in my opinion.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:50 AM

Will watch that 5-door auction with interest to see what mine might be worth if I can fix its overheating problem :) . Sadly due to my broken arm that's going to be a while now, I reckon :( .



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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:00 AM

I r winner


Yes, yes you are.

How many cars are you highest bidder for rightnow?

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:07 AM

Er, two. Dont think Ill win either though.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:11 AM

Saw this and thought of you.

 

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:14 AM

Saw this and thought of you.

https://www.facebook...7/?ref=feed_rhc


That sounds like a right laugh.

But.

Contravenes my SWOP 4 CAR OR VAN OR BIKE OR N E THING rule.

Swerve anything that has a listing ending with that sort of barrage.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:43 AM

They are starting to fetch good coin those estates. Will watch that listing with interest.

Edit: *Cutrent high bidder.

 

Cav if you win and need an off road parking space for that for a bit, I have one in Herne Bay (further away I know, but still, offer is there). Might also be able to persuade my MiL to have it on her drive way in Romford for a bit #appropriatelocation


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 12:58 PM

Never understood bidding early. You just cost yourself more money.
I don’t understand telling everyone you are bidding also. :-)
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 01:01 PM

Sorry my grandson did it by mistake.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 01:03 PM

No. But.



https://rover.ebay.c...tm/192603230260



I r high bidder.


Needs new number plates as the ones on it have seemingly delaminated causing a blurring effect. Other than that, it looks ok. In the pics.

I think the plates on BW03 YTE will be ok, if I can see through the internet that the number plate of BW03 YTE is BW03 YTE then surely the MOT man can.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 01:08 PM

Sorry my grandson did it by mistake.


Makes sense, cos you are using eBay like an old man!

If you really want an ST170, I can ask about Andy’s. I doubt there’s a cleaner one owned by a more knowledgable sort.
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Safe now. Everything's lead lined.

 

 


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 01:16 PM

Makes sense, cos you are using eBay like an old man!

If you really want an ST170, I can ask about Andy’s. I doubt there’s a cleaner one owned by a more knowledgable sort.


Sounds like a plan man. Theres no harm in asking.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 01:46 PM

Will dee.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 05:34 PM

Cav if you win and need an off road parking space for that for a bit, I have one in Herne Bay (further away I know, but still, offer is there). Might also be able to persuade my MiL to have it on her drive way in Romford for a bit #appropriatelocation

 

Thanks chief, let's see how it goes.

 

 

Never understood bidding early. You just cost yourself more money.
I don’t understand telling everyone you are bidding also. :-)

 

You are of course correct, I just do it sometimes and see what happens. Extremely unlikely I'll win it, but occasionally something comes up trumps.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 05:46 PM

Sometimes it works in two ways; 1) it gets out of "total bargain" territory and off other people's radar, and 2) you remember to actually bid on it closer to the time

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 05:48 PM

I won* my Mk1 MR2 by placing a bid within an hour of the auction starting and completely forgetting I'd even done it until I got the notification email.

Fun* times.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 06:17 PM

If you're brave/rich there's this Wilsonandagain:

 

https://www.ebay.co....f8AAOSw8hxbSQw8

 

 

It's on my radar, and not far away but the 'private listing' bits is as worrying as the HGF. It's also got no MOT.


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Posted Yesterday, 07:40 PM

That cheap estate is on my patch, so you Northern Monkeys can FARK OFF :-P

 

Cheap one (so far in Scotchland)

 

https://www.ebay.co....353.m1438.l2649

 

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Posted Yesterday, 07:55 PM

Saw one in tesco last night and in this colour its perfect...


Sadly i turned down one exactly same few months ago :(:(:(:(

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Posted Yesterday, 08:31 PM

I don't get why they are so blooming slow though, I've driven a few standard and one with the uprated inlet, cams etc and ecu modified and even that was crap


They were weighty old beasts those first ST’s and that Mondeo engine was never going to be a revvy, exciting motor like a TU5JP4 or whatever went in the Clio 172 etc.




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