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#271 ONLINE   richardthestag

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:28 PM

"four" wheels on my wagon

 

at last I managed to get the chassis into a rolling state again. milestone has been turned

 

Despite having two extra pairs of hands it was easier to lift the front of the chassis on the engine crane, then I could manipulate the radius arms into the chassis. then the lads positioned the front springs as I lowered the chassis weight onto them

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back axle, rested back of chassis on a work mate, built up radius arm and springs on the floor, then lowered the chassis by hand while helping hands located the radius arms into the chassis.

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then jacked up the back axle and installed the wheels. celebrated in the usual "topping out" style. David celebrated using photogramtwer or some other crap social media fad that I cannot get my head around

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Hard work done on a Sunday

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Bench has been in place for 24hours and looks like it has been there a decade :D

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today had to use a ratshit strap to pull the nearside axle closer to the off side chassis rail so I could fit the panhard rod. it stops the axle wobbling from side to side

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cleaned up the gearbox cross member, pleased with this because it was quite ratty. disapointished that chassis has narrowed slightly - "they all do that sir". will need some sort of spreader in order that I can get the cross member back in. we are only talking a couple of mm

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hauled the power steering box off the shelf

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cleaned it, tested and fit for purpose. just need to swap the ball joint in the drop arm

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finished up by painting it.

 

I hope that the seals are intact because the drop arm often needs dynamite to remove. the way my luck is I might have a go at shifting it tomorrow


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#272 OFFLINE   danthecapriman

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:35 PM

Nice work, your rolling chassis looks superb!
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:03 PM

Damn fantastic, it's a shame to cover it up with a body shell.

 

With the swivels, do they need the oil/grease/one shot snot in before you preload them? I'd have assumed all that around the CV would make a noticeable difference in drag on the spring balance.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:57 AM

Damn fantastic, it's a shame to cover it up with a body shell.

 

With the swivels, do they need the oil/grease/one shot snot in before you preload them? I'd have assumed all that around the CV would make a noticeable difference in drag on the spring balance.

 

the body frame is the next big job (fnarr) on the list. tiding welds rust proofing and fitting back onto chassis. still need to weld up the rear goal posts

 

for the swivels you need to release the sweep seal before doing it so the ep80 oil will be drained first. I dont think the one stop would put up that much resistance on a side to side pull. the balance needs 2.5 - 3lb force once resistance to start moving is overcome.

 

When the sweep seal is fitted the load goes up significantly. 

 

I think the trick is that the swivels are not so loose that death wobble happens but not so tight that the steering and swivel bearings wear out


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:13 PM

Ta it's been years since I set one up, I couldn't recall the process.



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:02 PM

day of doing odds and sods today.

 

Have ordered rust converter and bits from rustbuster. that should arrive tomorrow then I hope to crack on with prepping the bulkhead for paint.

 

this is the steering drag link that connects the steering box to the nearside hub, the remains of the steering box ball joint are still in the end. I wanted to unscrew the ends so it can be prepped for paint etc this end is reverse threaded so that the drag link can be accurately set up to ensure a straight ahead steering wheel. once the clamp was removed it simply wound out. most unusual!

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the balljoint also simply unscrewed!! here it all is ready for a quick refresh. new balljoint is needed

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buoyed by my good fortune with the drag link I attempted to remove the two ends and adjuster from the track rod that connects nearside and offside hubs. no fucking chance! Heated up to glowing and levered with a pair of stilsons with foot long handled. as all two joints were seized solid I will replace the fucking lot with new. The ball joint that did come off was dead.

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switched my attention to the steering shaft that goes between the steering column and steering box. it cleaned up nicely, both UJs are in good shape and will be reused

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Next I replaced the steering ball joint on the steering box. I had to cut through the old one because is was fucked and stuck in the drag arm. the ball joint is held in with a circlip on the bottom of the arm. the balljoint and packers etc can just just be knocked through the arm with a drift. there is a cup which forms the upper part of the balljoint, the old one needs pressing out. bit of threaded rod and a few sockets had it out. The old cup is just to the left of the big phat whasher

 

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here are the old and new bits. the old joint was rusted

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new cup was easily pulled into place using a socket, threaded rod and washers

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the ball joint is held in place by a disc and circlip, a fat spring provides some pressure to take up any slack. makes assembly a bit of a bastard. I haven't removed the bottom arm from the steering box due to a shortage of dynamite. after messing about with g clamps and stuff I positioned the steering box besides the vice, rotated the box input to move the arm into the right sort of place and then pressed the lot together and fitted the circlip. caused a bit of swearing

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box is now fitted to the chassis. yay shelf space is freeing up

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stripped front prop down, one uj was dead one ok but wouldnt survive a strip down and rebuild so will be replaced anyway. quite a lot of grease and shit on this propshaft. not unusual as it sits under the gearbox and engine

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parts washer and a brief going over with a wire twist disc on the angle grinder had it 2/3 ready for paint and rebuild

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Jaguar x308 Sovereign 4 litre - nicked by Fathathestag might be up 4sayle soon

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 07:03 PM

catch up on the last three days shenanigans.

 

all my stress and most of my depression have gone this week. lets see if it stays that way!

 

pressed new bushes into the a-frame

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press made light work of pushing them in

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done!

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next new steering joints, reasonable qulitay but almost as dry as a witches tit

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remove rubber cup, lube, replace, fit, dont worry for years.

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knocked down the rear prop, no idea how old it is nor history, each joint had a slight tight spot so replaced the UJs

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remove the splines and found blue grease. = repro = cheap parts so replacing UJs is the best option

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Jaguar x308 Sovereign 4 litre - nicked by Fathathestag might be up 4sayle soon

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Range Rover 1972 - ongoing extensive restoration

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Land Rover 1969 SIIa SWB - belongs to Fathathestag but maintained and welded by me

BMW E46 318i touring - sold to hhhugues

 


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 11:26 AM

Another job to do was set up the front swivel preload.

 

too tight and steering feel will be impacted, too loose and steering wobble of death happens.

 

In a nutshell, the swivel bearings are tapered. the bottom swivel pin is fixed. the top swivel pin is designed to take shims, less shims will increase the load, more shims will reduce the load.

 

load is measured using a spring balance on the steering arm, bit of a faff though because the top pin has to be removed to fit the shims and then torqued down to 60ft lbs to check load

 

to start with I fit enough shims so that the hub will stay in position when it is rotated. if gravity causes it to move then shims need to be removed to increase the load

 

shims come in 0.030, 0.010, 0.005 and 0.003 thou

 

micrometer helps identify the thickness of the shims

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trusty old spring balance, load is between 2.5 and 3lb. I verified my spring balance using a 4lb weight and it was good. 

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o/s hub needed 0.030 thou shim, n/s here needed 0.082 thou

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still need to fit the brake back plate and flexi hose support but other than that the front hubs are done. yay


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Jaguar x308 Sovereign 4 litre - nicked by Fathathestag might be up 4sayle soon

Triumph Staaag 1973 - cheaper than a mistress.. just

Range Rover 1972 - ongoing extensive restoration

Range Rover 1972 - complete shed but in line for restoration

Land Rover 1969 SIIa SWB - belongs to Fathathestag but maintained and welded by me

BMW E46 318i touring - sold to hhhugues

 


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 11:36 AM

in other news yesterday I stripped down the £50 ebay engine.

 

on the whole it didnt look too bad, low comp pistons, very little bore wear. It has been waiting patiently here on the right. The engine on the left is higher compression SD1 engine that came out of the project car and is a runner

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Happily all the timing cover bolts came out without any snappage, bit of black death inside but see a lot worse. worryingly the oil pump was dry.

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New water pump - yay

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fitted engine to the stand for strip down, heads I already did last year

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camshaft is worn, all lobes are still there but the profiles have worn, will be replaced along with the hydraulic lifters so no worries

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The timing chain was very baggy, again not unusual. These engines put up with a lot of shit and still run

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sump off next and it is very sticky, gloopy and black, smelt pretty bad too. after a while I sussed out that it had axle oil in it !!!!

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#2 piston out and oh fuck!

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that isnt good, looking to replace all the bearings anyway but the crank will need a grind. Not as bad as the stag crank but still a bit too far for a polish and replacement of the shells.

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Pug 307 - son's daily runner Sold to Arthur Foxhake

Range Rover Vogue 1993 - my daily runner

Daewoo Matiz 2002 - Sold

Jaguar x308 Sovereign 4 litre - nicked by Fathathestag might be up 4sayle soon

Triumph Staaag 1973 - cheaper than a mistress.. just

Range Rover 1972 - ongoing extensive restoration

Range Rover 1972 - complete shed but in line for restoration

Land Rover 1969 SIIa SWB - belongs to Fathathestag but maintained and welded by me

BMW E46 318i touring - sold to hhhugues

 


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 11:53 AM

this big end shell from piston #7 didnt even fit into the conrod or cap, showed signs that it had spun. likely that the engine had seized on this piston and then forced the shell to rotate along with the crank, the cap and conrod look ok, worst case I will replace the conrod to fix this.

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pistons all out, 

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ready for clean and assessment, they are all showing serious bearing wear. conrods all appear to be ok, gudgeon pins have no noticeable wear. piston rings are fucked. all the pistons are standard size hepolite jobbies

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Main bearing caps next, this is #4 bearing and it also has spun!

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when removed a big lump of the bearing was also missing  :(

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all stripped out, next steps are a deep clean and assess for bore wear, cam bearing wear and any sort of stress crack or slipped piston liner. Might yet be a Top Gear style table

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crank may just get away with a polish, seems to have been running standard shells so there is a chance for grind and oversize shells. not a disaster

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main bearing shells

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so I reckon that oil pressure was fucked because oil pump had run dry and was not primed again. this trashed all the crank bearings quickly, there is no sign of heat damage to the camshaft bearings so I think it was a mercifully quick death.

 

axle oil was probably dumped in to see if oil pressure could be fixed. the fact that none of it was in the oil pump is pretty damning. the oil filter was also 1/4 full of engine oil, again no sign of axle oil.

 

should be recoverable else it will be on the bay as a table or boat anchor etc


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Pug 307 - son's daily runner Sold to Arthur Foxhake

Range Rover Vogue 1993 - my daily runner

Daewoo Matiz 2002 - Sold

Jaguar x308 Sovereign 4 litre - nicked by Fathathestag might be up 4sayle soon

Triumph Staaag 1973 - cheaper than a mistress.. just

Range Rover 1972 - ongoing extensive restoration

Range Rover 1972 - complete shed but in line for restoration

Land Rover 1969 SIIa SWB - belongs to Fathathestag but maintained and welded by me

BMW E46 318i touring - sold to hhhugues

 





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