The grumpy thread

[New POD]

  On 20/11/2023 at 22:46, MikeR said:

After looking around for external white paint for ages and letting the job slip ....

I noticed this today .... on the side of the tin !! 

 

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Brilliant. I usually buy the "exterior mediocre slow dry white, probably suitable outside if it doesn't rain too much, provided you use 3 coats of the special primer, and 4 coats of top coat and the clear laquer to protect it, with at least 24 hours between each coat" 

 

Because its 5% cheaper.  

[chaseracer]

  On 23/11/2023 at 06:29, New POD said:

Thing is, there's no crumplezone to absorb the energy.

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P6 had passive safety designed in, including progressive collapse.  

This is also an interesting read: https://oldmotors.net/rover-p6-radical-disguised-as-traditional/

 

[Rocket88]

  On 23/11/2023 at 06:29, New POD said:

Thing is, there's no crumplezone to absorb the energy.  So I'm guessing all the energy was taken by the seat belts and the driver will have a massive bruise across thier chest or even life threatening internal injuries.  

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Err…. No. P6 was built with crumple zones. Why do people automatically assume old cars are “ death traps.”?

 

[junkyarddog]

My old jalopy has it's test in the morning,so decided to give the old girl a wash and brush up.

10mins later.

FFS!🙄

[cobblers]

 

Guess which 4 components I replaced 7000 miles ago, just before the last MOT?

[chaseracer]

  On 23/11/2023 at 15:47, cobblers said:

 

Guess which 4 components I replaced 7000 miles ago, just before the last MOT?

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Is this what theatrical types with mechanical sympathy might call 'suspension of disbelief'...? 

[beko1987]

Was it cheap parts doing cheap parts or alright parts being smashed to fuck over the roads though? 

[ruffgeezer]

Audi has disgraced itself - OSF caliper partially seized and cooked the pads on my way in to work yesterday.   Limped it home to survey damage- pads that horrible brick dust colour, disc tinged blue. 

Couldn't get the parts at the right price in time, so this morning ing before work I chucked a cambelt and water pump on the Peugeot 207 and finished it just in time to drive it to work for the late shift. Only the gearbox oil and rear brakes to rectify on that then I ccan bring the Getz home.

Meantime that has passed it's mot but needs inner front arb bushes and a strut top mount.  

[cobblers]

As part of an ongoing plan to stop my head exploding, every friday I finish work a bit early and have a walk somewhere peaceful, then I camp in my van at the end of a farm next to a river and on saturday morning I stop off at a nice quiet cafe and sit next to the fire and have a full english breakfast.

This morning there was a few old blokes who came in, togged up in their walking clobber ready for a days walking up lathkill dale or something.

One ordered an egg sandwich, with extra bacon. One ordered a bacon sandwich with an extra egg.

They sat down to eat them and discussed the prices they had paid for the same meal, and it ended up being 15p cheaper for the egg with extra bacon. The aggrieved party jumped out of his seat and marched up to the counter and demanded a refund of this 15p. 

Cafe owner then explained that the bacon + egg sandwich has 2 bacon + 1 egg, whereas the egg+ bacon only has 1 bacon, hence the price difference.

Overhearing this, the other guy gets up and joins in the discussion: "So a rasher of bacon is only 15p? but you charged me an extra £1 for an egg!"

The two blokes went back and forth arguing quite agressively with the cafe owner about the value of eggs vs bacon for a good 5 minutes, all while the sandwiches they were arguing over were sat on a table behind them going cold. Cafe owner refunded one bloke 15p onto his card and gave the other bloke a rasher of bacon to shut them up.

Listening to all this wound me up a lot more than it should have done. 

[Tickman]

  On 25/11/2023 at 12:00, cobblers said:

Listening to all this wound me up a lot more than it should have done. 

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I don't think it did, I think the correct levels of wound up were achieved.

Life's too short for behaviour like that

[sierraman]

  On 23/11/2023 at 02:08, Spiny Norman said:

Shame. Old cars are so fragile compared to modern NCAP tanks, doesn't look too bad so should be fixable.

 

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But there’s no bonnet pyrotechnics, airbags or crash sensors to reset. 

[outlaw118]

Been waiting for a nerve block injection, appointment was for Tuesday 21/11, private via work healthcare provider. Had a phone call Thursday 17th around 14.30 to discuss the pre-admission questionnaire, all ok, "We'll call you back to make appointment for bloods etc". 

So I waited. Nothing until 4.25 Friday, where I was told next available appointment is Monday 20/11. No good says I, I'm in peterborough, leaving 6am. Told not their fault blah blah, if I don't come in, the op is off. 

Monday crippling nerve pain, drove to hospital in Woodford in Megamoose, 10 minutes later, I'm on the road to Peebo, £12.50 ULEZ lighter + paying for my own diesel; had I chosen to come home and get the van, it would have added at least another hour to getting there, and leave my hours short for the day, I've already lost 4 hours

Tuesday, operation; don't know what painkillers / sedation they gave me, but they were ace. Didn't feel a thing.

Until Wednesday, painkillers have worn off. Lots of ouch.

Thursday back to work, did a few hours on the road while my* office was being used. Got in there at 13.30, did what I had to do, left 16.00, returned to the van - in the office car park - and the passenger window is in approximately 4,874,165 pieces. Appears the bloke who was parked next to me has twatted it with his door and then fucked off. Clearly he's not aware that there's CCTV in the car park. Depot bird going to review, and confirm, and have a word. If not (yeah, I know it's not MY van) I'm going to have a word* with the cunt myself. 

Rang Nationwide Windscreens (it's 16.10 now), their switchboard promised me an urgent callback. I wasn't expecting them to carry the window as stock, but hoped they'd come and stick some perspex over it or summert. I cleared as much glass up as I could, but those shitty latex gloves don't really protect you from glass splinters. Then I waited. Eventually, at 18.25 I got through to them again. Depot closed at 18.00, so clearly I won't be getting a phone call / visit tonight. Went home, frozen. They eventually rang 9.45 Friday, they're coming Monday between 8 & 1. Nice. the only good point is that I'll log on at 8 and wait.

Friday, felt a bit snotty, general aches and pains.

Today, full blown man-flu. SWMBO bought me a pie yesterday, don't fancy it. I might die.

 

[Bren]

I attempted to have a look at the insignia's glove box illumination. It only worked when I pulled the glovebox to do the cabin filter.

The theory is sound but the execution can  be best described as "shit".

Everytime I put the glovebox back it stopped working. In the end I gave up.

It's a common problem. This is the first car I have ever owned that does not give me any pride - I feel the same about this as I would a freezer or a cooker. I felt more pride in the utter nails I have owned in the past.

Hopefully I can chop it in in the new year.

 

[beko1987]

  On 26/11/2023 at 13:31, Bren said:

I attempted to have a look at the insignia's glove box illumination. It only worked when I pulled the glovebox to do the cabin filter.

The theory is sound but the execution can  be best described as "shit".

Everytime I put the glovebox back it stopped working. In the end I gave up.

It's a common problem. This is the first car I have ever owned that does not give me any pride - I feel the same about this as I would a freezer or a cooker. I felt more pride in the utter nails I have owned in the past.

Hopefully I can chop it in in the new year.

 

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Looks awfully the same part as used in the zafira B... The one the ex had did a melt around that area and got unplugged forever. We did wonder if it was causing them to burnt down (was back when that all first hit the news) but it then went in for its recall twice in 2 seperate occasions and wasn't picked up on and I'd left the melted holder fitted. 

I've only known one zafira B to burn down a d that was set on fire by my car at the time being set on fire so it gets a pass there! (it still drove onto the flatbed too) 

[wuvvum]

Well fuck.

[RoverFolkUs]

I ventured into Currys yesterday. Why does anyone shop there with a business model of pressure selling tactics?

First I walked through to the TV area via the tablets and printers. "Hello sir can I help you with anything today" ... No thank you.. 

Then I've made it to the TV area, I get intercepted by a Sony representative who starts spouting some absolute sales nonsense about LG OLED TVs, thank you but I'm not interested... [Why are you wearing a Sony top!? You're no different from the other bandits in purple tops]

Then there's a middle aged lady looking at a cheapy JVC and Panasonic TV. I know that they are probably exactly the same as they are both manufactured in Turkey by a company called Vestel. It's like trying to compare a Citroen C1 against a Peugeot 107. Same same, but different. You get my gist. 

Sales representative starts barking at her about how the Panasonic will have a richer picture (maybe, but it's all adjustable anyway so you could quite easily make a cheap TV look "richer" than an expensive one if you tried..)

Then she opts to buy the JVC one and he starts telling her that if she buys this £60 HDMI cable it will have a better signal and all sorts of other rubbish.

Weren't these tactics frowned upon about 10 years ago by BBC watchdog? Why are they still doing it?

Then I'm making my way towards the exit but it's restricted by 2 employees standing there nattering away while another is wheeling out a washing machine. I stand by a vacuum cleaner of some sort to keep out the way and then I'm immediately descended upon "is there anything I can help you with sir" 

FUCK OFF! I'd like to shop in peace and come and find someone if I need help

Gave up searching for what I wanted and just left thinking I might as well order it online. 

[Spiny Norman]

Standard behaviour for the few commission paying sales outlets still functioning in the high street. I went into Currys a few months ago for a mouse mat, I only went in rather than doing a buy online because they're our next door neighbours where I work and I was accosted to be two or three sales dweebs in the 5 minutes I was in the place.
They must know they're on borrowed time.

[wuvvum]

Well fuck again.

Should have stayed in bed today. 

[myglaren]

  On 26/11/2023 at 14:44, RoverFolkUs said:

I ventured into Currys yesterday. Why does anyone shop there with a business model of pressure selling tactics?

First I walked through to the TV area via the tablets and printers. "Hello sir can I help you with anything today" ... No thank you.. 

Then I've made it to the TV area, I get intercepted by a Sony representative who starts spouting some absolute sales nonsense about LG OLED TVs, thank you but I'm not interested... [Why are you wearing a Sony top!? You're no different from the other bandits in purple tops]

Then there's a middle aged lady looking at a cheapy JVC and Panasonic TV. I know that they are probably exactly the same as they are both manufactured in Turkey by a company called Vestel. It's like trying to compare a Citroen C1 against a Peugeot 107. Same same, but different. You get my gist. 

Sales representative starts barking at her about how the Panasonic will have a richer picture (maybe, but it's all adjustable anyway so you could quite easily make a cheap TV look "richer" than an expensive one if you tried..)

Then she opts to buy the JVC one and he starts telling her that if she buys this £60 HDMI cable it will have a better signal and all sorts of other rubbish.

Weren't these tactics frowned upon about 10 years ago by BBC watchdog? Why are they still doing it?

Then I'm making my way towards the exit but it's restricted by 2 employees standing there nattering away while another is wheeling out a washing machine. I stand by a vacuum cleaner of some sort to keep out the way and then I'm immediately descended upon "is there anything I can help you with sir" 

FUCK OFF! I'd like to shop in peace and come and find someone if I need help

Gave up searching for what I wanted and just left thinking I might as well order it online. 

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Have to say that although I rarely use Currys, when I have it has been painless.

Bought a microwave 26 years ago, came with a free steam iron.  Microwave still used daily.  No idea what happened to the iron but it is probably the one that I still have and use.

An Olympus DSLR kit, probably 15 years ago, again, still in frequent use, no issues.

A couple of Miele vacuum cleaners about ten or twelve years ago, one for me, one for daughter.  Mine still OK, she wrecked hers and bought her another recently.

My LG plasma TV and a DVD player, again about 12 years ago.  Hardly used.  The DVD player cracked up, replaced instantly and without question.  So did the TV and two blokes came and replaced a circuit board, no hassle whatsoever.  Still in use but rarely.  DVD player is buggered.

I did have an additional warranty for that.  It was supposed to be £19 a month, told them not interested so got it for £19 - for three years

A built in oven for daughter, worked fine for three years.  I had had a reminder to take out an extended warranty and couldn't remember buying it.  after an electrical excursion the display became rather erratic and hard to set.  Gave up the ghost a couple of weeks ago.  replaced and again a quite pleasant experience, no pressure to buy anything else.

And a Kindl for the late wife.  Salesman was a student and very easy to deal with.  We were pretty clueless as to what we were buying and he was very good at explaining and getting her the one to best suit her.

Perhaps it is different in different locations but I have no qualms about using them.

[Landy Mann]

Beware  spare parts from the blue company

[High Jetter]

  On 26/11/2023 at 14:44, RoverFolkUs said:

I ventured into Currys yesterday. Why does anyone shop there with a business model of pressure selling tactics?

First I walked through to the TV area via the tablets and printers. "Hello sir can I help you with anything today" ... No thank you.. 

Then I've made it to the TV area, I get intercepted by a Sony representative who starts spouting some absolute sales nonsense about LG OLED TVs, thank you but I'm not interested... [Why are you wearing a Sony top!? You're no different from the other bandits in purple tops]

Then there's a middle aged lady looking at a cheapy JVC and Panasonic TV. I know that they are probably exactly the same as they are both manufactured in Turkey by a company called Vestel. It's like trying to compare a Citroen C1 against a Peugeot 107. Same same, but different. You get my gist. 

Sales representative starts barking at her about how the Panasonic will have a richer picture (maybe, but it's all adjustable anyway so you could quite easily make a cheap TV look "richer" than an expensive one if you tried..)

Then she opts to buy the JVC one and he starts telling her that if she buys this £60 HDMI cable it will have a better signal and all sorts of other rubbish.

Weren't these tactics frowned upon about 10 years ago by BBC watchdog? Why are they still doing it?

Then I'm making my way towards the exit but it's restricted by 2 employees standing there nattering away while another is wheeling out a washing machine. I stand by a vacuum cleaner of some sort to keep out the way and then I'm immediately descended upon "is there anything I can help you with sir" 

FUCK OFF! I'd like to shop in peace and come and find someone if I need help

Gave up searching for what I wanted and just left thinking I might as well order it online. 

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It's a physical store, they have to drive sales to keep it open, and thus employed. Had better experiences at the Eastbourne store on the half-dozen visits over the last couple of years.

[RoverFolkUs]

  On 26/11/2023 at 22:54, High Jetter said:

It's a physical store, they have to drive sales to keep it open, and thus employed. Had better experiences at the Eastbourne store on the half-dozen visits over the last couple of years.

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If they have to try that hard to stay open then it shows they must be doing something wrong! 

However, if they're able to sell HDMI cables for £60 then I think they'll be in business for a while yet 

[Split_Pin]

Facebook should be renamed 'All Our Yesterdays'.

I stopped avoiding reading the comments because sometimes people can post new information. For example, a picture of an old lorry can yield an interesting anecdote from someone who used to drive them for a living or found the particular model ate head gaskets or something like that.

But the above example, more often than not, has a large majority of comments from miserable, condescending old duffers who complain how useless today's drivers are. Rather than be glad that new drivers don't have to endure draughty cabs, no power steering and wrestling with damp ropes and sheets in winter, they just say how much better things were back then.

Another example was when I was enjoying reading comments about an old video of Falkirk Town Centre in the 1980s. Again, my search for new information from perhaps someone who had some nice memories was spoiled by the usual streaks of misery who see progress as an entirely negative thing. 

Fuck off.

[Wibble]

  On 26/11/2023 at 23:12, RoverFolkUs said:

If they have to try that hard to stay open then it shows they must be doing something wrong! 

However, if they're able to sell HDMI cables for £60 then I think they'll be in business for a while yet 

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Didn’t have that experience yesterday when buying mum’s new washing machine at Curry’s Greenock. Not pounced on, had to ask for someone and, although explained , no hard sell on extra warranty. Quick and easy, it was in the back of the car pretty quick too.

[RoverFolkUs]

  On 26/11/2023 at 23:21, Wibble said:

Didn’t have that experience yesterday when buying mum’s new washing machine at Curry’s Greenock. Not pounced on, had to ask for someone and, although explained , no hard sell on extra warranty. Quick and easy, it was in the back of the car pretty quick too.

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I suppose it's branch/management/area management dependent 

I wonder if there's more money/upsell to be made in the electronics/computers which are more likely to be impulse purchases rather than kitchen white goods where people probably already know what they want

[Wibble]

  On 26/11/2023 at 23:32, RoverFolkUs said:

I suppose it's branch/management/area management dependent 

I wonder if there's more money/upsell to be made in the electronics/computers which are more likely to be impulse purchases rather than kitchen white goods where people probably already know what they want

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Yes, could be. This already came with a 5 year warranty and is a temporary solution because she wants integrated appliances in the new kitchen she is planning but will never use😕

[Metal Guru]

  On 26/11/2023 at 23:32, RoverFolkUs said:

I suppose it's branch/management/area management dependent 

I wonder if there's more money/upsell to be made in the electronics/computers which are more likely to be impulse purchases rather than kitchen white goods where people probably already know what they want

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Last time I went into our local Currys it was staffed mainly by spotty teenagers ( well they looked like teenagers to me, probably 20 somethings), who were only interested in computers and TVs. Asking about a freezer or washing machine just got a blank stare.

[Bren]

Royal Mail.

Wife does Avon. Box delivered the other day - obvious it had been opened.

Same again today - one end of the box completely missing and taped up. Some cosmetics in various states of damage along with two hilka magnetic tool trays ( Avon don't sell tools) and a box with omron on the inside ( something electronic but the contents were missing).

Evri damage things but this really takes the piss.

 

[cobblers]

  On 26/11/2023 at 23:14, Split_Pin said:

Facebook should be renamed 'All Our Yesterdays'.

I stopped avoiding reading the comments because sometimes people can post new information. For example, a picture of an old lorry can yield an interesting anecdote from someone who used to drive them for a living or found the particular model ate head gaskets or something like that.

But the above example, more often than not, has a large majority of comments from miserable, condescending old duffers who complain how useless today's drivers are. Rather than be glad that new drivers don't have to endure draughty cabs, no power steering and wrestling with damp ropes and sheets in winter, they just say how much better things were back then.

Another example was when I was enjoying reading comments about an old video of Falkirk Town Centre in the 1980s. Again, my search for new information from perhaps someone who had some nice memories was spoiled by the usual streaks of misery who see progress as an entirely negative thing. 

Fuck off.

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A lot of them are full of miserable racists too, bemoaning how we've been "invaded" etc. 

Also shittily colourised photos seem to really impress a lot of these people, and lately incredibly obvious and poorly AI generated stuff is becoming quite common and it's really devastating that even the most ridiculous stuff completely fools people.

[Dave_Q]

One I quite like for misery is the local area Facebook groups, a couple from this week:

• Post about a Santa float and where it will be going when. 70% of the comments are people moaning how disgusting it is the thing is not going to their house/street AGAIN this year, the evil bastards
  • As a bonus, one of the organizers patiently replies to the thread saying they could go to more streets with more volunteers to help - 0 moaners volunteer.
• Post about this years xmas tree which TBF is a bit smaller than previously

100-odd comments of moaning about how shit it is. I quite liked this one:

Well Ken, I can assure you that the most important English tradition of being a miserable old bastard and moaning about absolutely everything, is alive and well!