forddeliveryboy Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Im sure its fine to use oil based additives as a thinning agent without paying fuel duty so long as its in small quantities. il have to find the actual source, unless It was all a dream or something I think there's a 0.5 or 1% limit. Thing is, apart from kero bought in bulk, other thinning agents are as expensive as petrol and diesel. I simply wouldn't risk adding kerosene even in small amounts, just not worth the hassle. I think there are chemical markers to this as well as red diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I've been running cars on veg and 'other fuels' for 9 years now, never had a tank dipped. Beko, it might be worth re-sealing the plastic fuel filter housing if you haven't already, or better still, throwing it away and fitting a Bosch filter head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddeliveryboy Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Me neither, but plenty have had a visit, almost always as a result of a miserable neighbour or member of the public who thinks alongs the lines, "if I can't, why should he?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 I need to get under it and have a good look, I've not really touched it since buying it, other than confirming it was recently well serviced! I'll plan a weekend! Twosmoke, not being touchy, just agreeing with you! A tenner of derv gets me 170 miles before the vague fuel needle stays in the red and I put more in, fannying around with kerosene etc sounds like a FAFF when I can chuck 20 litres of new oil on top and save a tenner anyway! Even on straight derv its a joy to be able to drive around apart from going to work and back due to the cost! I did 100 miles at the weekend, that would have been unheard of in the XM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Now I have wheels nearly sorted, and the wing money hopefully secure, I;m turning my mind to other things to improve the ZX... The rear shock absorbers seem to be fucking shit. I know it will never be as smooth as the XM but it bangs over everything. It had a low mileage rear beam fitted a few years ago (has the abs rings stil on), so I dont think it's that, and it feels the same as the meriva did when its shocks came to the end of their life last year. Will they all be the same? I'll get hatchback ones not estate, but I presume the bodyshell was the same across all the 5 door engine variants? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-ZX-Volcane-1-9-8v-Hatchback-Rear-Shock-Absorber-06-91-07-94-/330630822410?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cfb21fa0a http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-KYB-REAR-SHOCK-ABSORBER-CITROEN-ZX-1-9-11-91-10-98-DIESEL-71-BHP-FWD-691-/151357719411?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item233d9f8373 etc I know a volcane is lwoered from the factory, does that dictate what I need? I'll have a proper look when I next get under it and compare then, but if anyone had any experience that would be a good starter! What else, well the head unit is pissing me off so I'm lining up to replace it with my old one, and torn between ripping all the sub and amp wiring out, or re-route it how my head unit needs it and re-instating it (I have an amp), need to decide on that. The horn is shit, I think it's only half working. I'll try and get it off when I eventually fit the new wing which I'm yet to buy Front foglights dont work, cant say I'm bothered at the moment Handbrake needs a tweak, I saw it roll forwards the other day after a fast drive... Buy new rear pads and fit the discs I have Re-tap the fucked front wheelbolt hole (my grandad lent me the best tap handle...) Work out how to make the fuel guage more accurate Work out how to lift the non liftable rear seat base to do the above Wash the fucker! Get the front washers working reliably. Soemtimes they only work as I pull the stalk, sometimes they are fine. They dont seem blocked Headlights are aimed all shit, need to adjust them, but I dont drive at night atm so that can wait Have a look at the leakoff pipes However, it's done 203 miles to 5mm of needle movement (just over quarter of a tank to just under), and that suits me fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollywobbler Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Autoshite rule #1 - never trust a handbrake!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Autoshite rule #1 - never trust a handbrake!!Badermatic ftw beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverapid Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Can I just say, in the the nicest possibly and hopefully helpful way that coating the hub flange in copper grease like that is a really bad idea. Talbot, beko1987 and Banger Kenny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Can I just say, in the the nicest possibly and hopefully helpful way that coating the hub flange in copper grease like that is a really bad idea. What he said. Smearâ„¢ Seriously - that has disaster written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I agree, I put a smear on each stud and a little trail round the hub. I was then told off by the tyre guys that it was too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverapid Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 No, not even a smear. The hub and disc flange should be clean and have no grease at all. The disc needs to sit flat on the hub to avoid future disc warpage and if the grease were to dissipate it may well leave a small gap between hub and disc leading to the wheel bolts coming loose again. I know the bolts have been checked several times since in this case. Similar to how the inner driveshaft bolted on with splined bolts joint flanges on many FWD VW's need to be grease free and bolts rechecking after road test. Sorry if I sound a bit "fussy", I'm trying to be genuinely helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micrashed Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Does the rear end "clunk"? If so it be the rear subframe bushes - bit of a pig of a job, but worth it as it will restore both ride and handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I didn't even clock the lack of a disc, my smear was to keep the road wheels from corroding onto the hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 It's been fine so far, but I'll clean all the grease off when I swap the wheels over, sorry! No, not a clunk really, just no damping at all, every bump and the car moves with it, I went down a particularly bad road admittidly yesterday and the steering was being pulled all over the place and there was a constant drone of banging and clunking and knocking from the rear. I had a quick look at the subframe bushes (someone mentioned it on my last one) and they look fine. I'll have a better prod. Sorry about the grease... I did have to hammer the fuck out of the drivers side one to get it off when overhauling though Jooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Badermatic ftwIt took my fucking ages to remember I didnt have a P option in this, stopped it rolling a few times in the first day or two! But then I've left the XM in D before when getting out and had to jump on the brake, or worry when it wouldnt fire up before moving it into P and trying again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Morose Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Shock absorbers is so un Citroen. AndyW201 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The word on the street is that old high mileage Lucas pumps can take veg better than low mileage ones as they are worn inside and this lets the thicker veg lubricate things betterer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I ran a high mileage Rover 218D on oil for 8000 miles without much care, through winter, before the pompe Lucas gave out.With a bit of care they might last a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micrashed Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I ran a ZX on SVO, WVO, OEO and in fact any shit I could lay my hands on for a while - did 10K miles in my care like that without an oil change and when punted on was still running fine with its Lucas Pump of Darkness. Then I had another: mouseflakes, Banger Kenny and DVee8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 I never thought of thinning it down with pez, might try that! How much do you reckon I should chuck in to say 40 litres of oil? tenner? fifteen? 3 quid? Lovely ZX's micrashed, I think their becoming my favourite cheap car! Should I be looking to service my 265k bosch pump of awesome or do I leave it alone until it breaks? Fuel filter is in excellent condition, spare is sat in the boot awaiting it's turn (with an allen key in the box for the housing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micrashed Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Should I be looking to service my 265k bosch pump of awesome or do I leave it alone until it breaks? Fuel filter is in excellent condition, spare is sat in the boot awaiting it's turn (with an allen key in the box for the housing!Step away from th pump and leave well alone. Filter and rubber fuel lines are the only bits that go FUBAR regular like. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Happy payday everybody! Red light was well and truly on this morning coming down the M40, so I swung into Asda I did think of putting pez in but she was quite empty, and I had to drive a few hundred yards to the asda carpark, then 4 miels to work to fill up (as I didnt want to do it at asda) so didnt want it sucking neat pez and shitting itself. If I need to top up the non sunflower content I'll chuck a tenner of pez in. A chap had JUST put these 6 bottles on the shelf as I walked up to them, I said sorry for ruining his display! And my homemade funnel out of an old orange juice bottle. The lip of the bottle sits behind the filler hole so it's nice and secure, although I need to get my aim right... But, (apparently according to the needle, but he is a lieing bastard, will see what it levels out to on the way home) I have a full tank, for £39.34. If that was straight derv I reckon it would have cost me £53, a whopping shitey saving of £13.66... Anyone know what size leakoff pipe I'll need? Found some per metre on ebay which is cheaper than the kits I've seen, but have no idea what size. Anyone know before I go and work out where they hell they are and have a measure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It will have been a real bastard squeezing the clementines down through that funnel,but washed down with some juice and a slice should be okTop saving beko1987, Banger Kenny and loserone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I just buy the leak off kits. Last one I bought was £4. Cant remember the I/D though. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't think you'll need to thin fresh unused veg oil, especially in the summer months. Up to 5% petrol may be needed in the winter though. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Tis a nice sight! Hope it lasts too, my first brim so I can get used to the range! DVee8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Is veg cheap at Asda? I haven't had to buy new oil for a while, but it's handy to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 You do know driving at almost 65mph with the passenger door open lol Felly Magic and dollywobbler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_the_cat Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Leak-off pipes are 4 mm. Whenever I've bought one of the 'kits' it's had a blue label with a red band around it, and the pipes have a braided fabric covering. Whatever make this is, the rubber has failed within a year or two, nicely hidden by the fabric! I get my 4 mm hose from a local agricultural machinery suppliers, as it's used for the fuel supply on a lot of small engines. Absolutely no help to you though... beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 This has appeared in the local breakers. Is it the same colour? beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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