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  1. Managed to cop a DOE while at Ryde last year. I think Hants and Dorset Trim are doing the repaints/light refub on them as I've seen one or two posted on their social media. Nice to see them gaining proper blinds though; I notice Konnectbus has DOE1 and they immediately fitted it with an LED blind box without any proper re-masking of the aperture. It looks really half-arsed.
  2. I had a mate (sadly no longer with us) who managed to get a spin in this. He described it as the worst torture ever to be inflicted on a driver - crash box, manual steering, etc. You'd certainly know you'd done a shift in one.
  3. If you really wanted to know, it's an Eastern Coachworks bodied Leyland Tiger TS8, owned by Maidstone and District that was sold in 1954 to British Railways North East region for departmental use. No, thought you didn't.
  4. 311 had 15” wheels, 312 had 13” wheels so that makes that a 312, I believe. I bought a 1957 311 saloon from Poland from a retired Wartburg chauffeur - he was able to buy the car after he retired. It was ace, originally it had the smaller 750cc (cant remember exactly but it was basically a IFA F9 unit) but I popped along to the local scappies and picked up a 353 lump to get me home. Years later, I was searching for an original engine and came across one in Guildford at another Wartburg fetishist. It turned out that it was my old engine that I left behind, the Guildford guy had bought something else off him, spotted my engine and bought that too! Ran it for a few years, partially as a daily driver until I managed to buy B-FOG of Nick Larkin but the ravages of time and many, many Polish giffer bodges to the inner structure and mechanicals meant that it would have cost me thousands to put properly right. I used to annoy folk the IFA club meets as mine was the oldest Wartburg in the country and so automatically got a prize every time, eventually someone found and imported a 1956 311 just to topple me off! Ah, happy days… 312s are the one to go for as they are basically 353s with the nicer body off the 311. The engine is plenty for the car and pretty robust and reliable.
  5. Most Wartburgs had a column change, apart from the 353s and Knight in the UK and that ran up to 1988 when they went to the VWish engine and floor change (Note: there was a facelift and mechanical upgrade in 1985 and I'm not sure if that stretched as far as a floor change). A good number of the rally Wartburgs (still reasonably popular as a rally weapon) used the column change as the floor change was a bit pants.
  6. See how your relatively economical heaps economy plummets when faced with round the town traffic? Yeah, times that by eleventy billion. Stop start, stop start, it absolutely kills economy even in the best of things. Add an old school auto gearbox and it’s no real wonder that they only do pitiful miles per gallon. As a confirmed 680 and L10 fan (sorry, no Gardners here - go back to the 19th century where you belong), it pains me to say that modern engines aren’t that bad on torque and given the obscene amounts of stress they’re put under by their mega turbos and strangled with hideously complex emission control equipment, the figures that they put out are nothing short of remarkable. Longevity isn’t that bad either. It’s this economy that’s driving some large operators push for more battery electrics, they are simply far cheaper to fuel and in an industry that seems to constantly invent new bottoms to race towards, fuel costs are a huge stumbling block in trying to make services pay. Add on reduced component wear, reduced maintenance and theoretically longer service life (mechanically, anyway), it’s a no brainer.
  7. You're not wrong! The NXWM B7s were nearly always on full until Grayson Systems came out with an electric retrofit package. They're quite cool too as they have a routine where they blow backwards to help clear the crap back out of the fins. The original set up was an ecu controlled hydraulic set up and its fail state was full on at full (engine driven) pump pressure Needless to say, any glitch in sensors, wiring or ecu meant double deck hoovers running around. They reckoned that it knocked over 1mpg off the economy, not great when they're only doing about 5 to begin with.
  8. It's a tradition, an old charter. Or something.
  9. Well, the green one was. Quite an unusual 353S too.
  10. That reg is familiar, didn't I used to own that? I'm sure it didn't look like that when I did. Well, I used to own the plate, only the car has been changed to protect the innocent.
  11. A bit of modern bus shite this evening. This is an Optare MetroDecker that is now owned by Diamond Bus in the West Midlands. Shite. you say? Oh yes. Sit down while I tell you a tale... It sort of starts with another bodybuilder, East Lancs of Blackburn. They had been selling their double-deck body, the Olympus reasonably well. Unfortunately, in 2007, East Lancs ran out of money and called in the receivers. They were rescued by the Darwen Group, a company that magically appeared for the purpose of saving East Lancs, the day after it fell into receivership. Interesting timing. Now the Darwen group, owned by Local entrepreneur Roy Stanley decided to purchase Leyland Product Developments, a splinter of the once monolithic Leyland empire, their skunkworks division but with more brown coats and ties. But Roy didn't stop there. In 2008 he set up another company (Jamesstan Investments) to purchase another struggling bodybuilder, Optare of Leeds. Somehow, the two companies (Darwen and Jamesstan) were somehow fused together and the whole shooting match was renamed Optare. Optare hadn't got a double-decker body as their sole double deck, the Spectra was sold as a complete bus, albeit using a DAF chassis. Thus what was the East Lancs Olympus now became the Optare Olympus (via briefly the Darwen Olympus) and Optare now had a body to plonk on any chassis the customer wanted. Still with me? Good. Now what the hell has all of this got to do with the bus in the picture? Don't worry, it's getting there. Now Optare did build other products. After purchasing the designs and production of the integral Metro Rider midibus from the defunct MCW, they used the frame design to build several single-deck models, focusing on lightweight and economy. It harboured the idea of producing an integral double-decker of its own making and with the reverse takeover and associated shenanigans settling down, a thorough redesign of their models was started. Firstly came the SoLo +. This was a complete restyle of their best-selling low-floor minibus (based upon the MetroRider frame once again). They had only just re-styled it the year before, producing the curvy SoLo SR but obviously fresh new company owners, fresh new designs and all that... The styling was dramatic, to say the least, very square and Darth Vader-y. It definitely caused a stir when shown off for the first time at the end of 2008. What was also shown off for the first time was their new double-deck design, the Rapta. This took the severe SoLo+ design and made it a double deck. Striking was one word for it, it really didn't look like anything else on the road, soft friendly curves were eschewed for straight bodysides and stark angles and the front managed to look more Darth Vader-y than the small SoLo+. It was going to be a fully in-house built product (thanks to the help from the staff from Leyland Product Developments) with power from M.A.N or a hybrid driveline of some sort (interestingly, one of Roy Stanleys' other companies was the Tanfield group who were slowly metamorphosing into a producer of electric vehicles, amongst other things). The reception for both products from operators was not what Optare expected, in fact, orders failed to materialise at all as those who would sign the order cheques were put off by the overly dramatic styling. Great, now what? Back to the drawing board, that's what. The SoLo SR was given a reprieve and the two SoLo+ built were quickly and quietly disposed of. The Rapta hung around the factory for a few years, slowly disintegrating and revealing that behind the deeply tinted windows lay, well, very little more than a rolling shell. With all the drama of the launch, there really wasn't much substance behind the razzamatazz. But Optare still harboured dreams of building their own integral double-deck bus. With the Rapta and SoLo+ fiasco over, funds were tight (especially after a move to a brand new factory in Sherburn-in Elmet)so the cupboards were rummaged through to see what could be rustled up. Starting with the Olympus body, an underframe was slowly built up underneath (thanks to those LDP folk) to make the body into an integral bus. The idea was to be a reverse MCW Metrobus where the body would be available to mount on other chassis but also could be bought as an integral product (the Metrobus was an underframe that could be a complete product or be bodied elsewhere). Lightness and economy were back in the plan so a tiny Mercedes four-cylinder engine and ZF Ecolife gearbox were used to propel the new bus along. Everything was done to make the underframe as light as possible to give the product class-leading running costs. Optare integral No.2 was to be launched as the Olympus integral and construction would start sometime around 2013. Ish. Even though the Olympus integral was ready (at least in prototype form), it was old and still looked like a past product from Blackburn and not the stylish product from a builder with a reputation for good-looking vehicles. The money was coming from yet another bit of the Leyland Empire. Ashok Leyland was once the Indian Subsidiary of the once huge Lancashire firm but had since gone on alone and made quite a good fist in building the right products for their market. Looking for something to spend their profits on, the cash-strapped Optare looked a good deal. Ashok needed something more than their very basic bus offerings (plus a way into other markets) and Optare needed the money - a match made in heaven. Slowly, over time, Ashok increased its shareholding of Optare until 100% was owned (note: this is a VERY simplified version of what went on with a slight bend in the actual timeline of events but you've tolerated me this far and I don't want to go on yet another tangent). Optare hovered about a bit and then decided that the new underframe needed a new body with it. Styling, after the Rapta debacle was back on its usual curvy track and a number of new models had been created, using the styling of the SoLo SR as a starting point. It made perfect sense to make the new decker look as though it was part of the family. At the same time, the weight could be designed out of the new bespoke bodywork, meaning that the new bus would be far lighter than, not only the Olympus prototype but any other double-decker on the market. It took an age to get there (so did this piece) but by 2014 the new Optare MetroDecker was ready to launch. The underframe was the same one as used on the Olympus integral prototype but the body took weight-saving to heights seen only before on Lothian's lightweight Titans of the '60s (called monstrous masses of shivering tin at the time by someone who doesn't matter). Three demonstrators were built, along with two other proving models which were hawked around every operator, large and small to promote this new double-decker ultra-lightweight double-decker from Optare. Like the Rapata, potential customers were put off by Optare seeming to go just a bit too far. They saw the flimsiness as a weakness and a potential disaster waiting to happen and not the new way of drastically reducing fuel bills (maybe memories of the 150s and '60s lightweights still burned brightly in some operators' memories). It failed to sell. Big time. There was one order. Reading actually liked what it saw when it tried one of the demonstrators and so ordered five with an upmarket specification for their Green Line route. Even then, Optare managed to screw things up with continuous delays and problems setting back delivery dates again and again until Covid came and gave Reading the excuse to cancel the order, after they had been built, over two years after the order was initially placed. Left with five buses, they were hawked around anyone willing to buy a new well-specced but unknown double-deck bus with a tiny engine and flimsy panels. Two were bought by Johnsons coaches of Henley in Arden for their route from Birmingham to Stratford upon Avon. Johnsons sold out its bus operations to Rotala Group and the bus fleet was absorbed into that of Diamond Bus. One of five buses ordered but not delivered with a total production of (I think, including the prototypes) 10. Not that great, is it? Well... In the past few years, the battery electric bus has slowly been getting good enough for operators to seriously consider large-scale purchases. True, the cost of the things is still astronomical but with dramatic long-term savings on fuel, and maintenance, plus a vast improvement in the workplace for all those who have to actually operate them, the electric bus is starting to look very attractive indeed. The biggest issue is weight, with a penalty of at least two tons over a normal diesel variant. More weight means fewer passengers able to be carried and that's not good. If only there was an ultra-lightweight double-decker out there that could be used as the basis of an electric bus. It seems the MetroDecker is not such a dead duck after all. As a diesel bus? Probably, but slowly the MetroDecker is starting to attract orders. Okay, it's mostly London, a place that has firmly committed itself to electric propulsion but hey, any orders are good orders. You never know, someone else might buy some... With rationalisation, Optare has now become Switch Mobility and looks after all of Ashok's EV requirements around the globe. It is intended that Switch will only sell Electric vehicles but with Diesel variants of the old models still capable of being built, they will still be sold under the Optare brand. Just don't expect any more deckers, this one took long enough.
  12. Dunno about RMs but have a couple of RTs instead.
  13. A bit of modern bus shite. A toddle off to Lichfield bus station (I go to all the best places) meant I could finally capture these things before they get sold off. Midland Classic have six Scania K230UBs with Irizar bus bodies. They also had six K250UBs with the same bodies (but have sold on three), meaning they had, at one time, all but two of the total production of that chassis/body combination. Now, in coach form, is Scania/Irizar surprisingly pleasant and fairly common but why not the bus? Well, they were a heavyweight in the times when most operators were buying lightweight stuff. The deciding factor was the floorline at the back. See that masking on the side windows near the rear? Yeah, the seats really do go up at the back like that (to clear the longditudinal engine) meaning the headroom in this rather high set body was minimal. Oh yes, the view forward frm the rear seats (if you don't get vertigo on the way there) is of the back of the front destination box. Really, they nedd to be experienced to be beieved. Not great then. Well the first six that Midland Classic bought were unique because of their short length. Think Dennis Dart sized, with only 24 seats but a full heavyweight bus. They were originally Heathrow airport buses and had large luggage racks at the front so they were taken out to increase the seating a bit but still, I dread to think how much fuel these things put away in a shift.
  14. The last Viceroy (oh and the prototype Alexander Y type too).
  15. Aw, fuck man. So sorry to hear that. If you need anything, just shout out.
  16. That was Jeffways & Pilot of HighWycombe. They merged sometime in the '50s I believe and combined onto the site shown in your picture. I think it was bought by the Kirby Group sometime in the '70s (not too sure on that one) which imploded sometime in the 1990's. The odd thing here is that there is still a Kirby's coaches who have been operating for as long as the other one but they are based in Rayleigh, Essex. This Kirby's is of note in that they imported the first Setra coach into the UK in 1972 (and still own it). Jeff's was another well-known coach company, more so in recent times (even though they were started in the late 1950s) but they were based in Helmdon, newar Brackley. They collapsed in 2012, bought by Bowens then collapsed again, this time terminally in 2015.
  17. I'm sure that was one of the P610s putting it around 1979. I'm also fairly certain that it was a four-stroke 1100 of their own making (not to be confused with the 1100 VWish lump that was engineered to fit in the late '80s) EDIT: it was a Skoda 1100 four-stroke lump. Here's my pic of it when I visited the museum in the early 1990s: The museum was still just a corner of the factory at the time and there were still tons of white P601 1.1 combis floating around the site, used as site transport.
  18. I remember grabbing a run the last of them In Berlin a good while back and they do sound magnificent! IIRC a number of them were shipped over to the UK to be open topped before heading back out of the country again - I’ve an inkling that Guide Friday was behind that but my memory fails me. I do remember grabbing the convertible roof off one in a scrapyard in Barnsley for use on a stillborn project to convert one of our Metrobuses.
  19. Many moons ago, I managed to capture JEV when it was owned by Fords of Althorne. By the look of the roof vents, the AC was AWOL.
  20. While looking for information on Brossels, I came across this: I'll get the joke in now. C'est ne pas une Pipe. They were one of Belgium's biggest motor manufacturers until the outbreak of the First World War when their factory was partially destroyed. They eventually resumed car production around 1921 but didn't get many sales, switching to making trucks instead under the Bovy-Pipe name. In 1930, they were taken over by Brossel. Why Pipe? That's what the factory that owners Alfred and Victor Goldschmidt made until turning to the motorcar...
  21. So good, a band named themselves after the advert.
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