The grumpy thread

[Split_Pin]

  On 25/08/2019 at 10:53, Tamworthbay said:

To be fair, it’s more the sentiment. I am sure they probably let me in but nothing stinks of a ‘real classics only’ with real being the kind of boring shite that gets polished but never driven. It will be full of boring old bastards who would not like the pile of car park receipts in the centre console, or the mud under the arches. It has saved a trip, and the food is great at the Feathers.

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I had typed something about car shows and deleted it but when I read the above I felt I could relate.

The Dumfries Car Show on 15th September (which I have already paid for) will be my last clock in to anything which involves me sharing my hobby with anybody.

Recently, nothing I have ever brought to a show has generated any interest whatsoever. It kind of pisses on your chips a bit when you have a motor which you are proud of, have gone to the trouble of making it look decent and brought it along.

They're either full of arrogant monied dickheads or boring bastards who don't want to hear anything you've got to say, they just want to talk about themselves. 

Yesterday I went to the Linlithgow Classic Car Show and my family and I were admiring a Mini Clubman. My mum had one as her first car and we were both reminiscing about it and my wife remembered her best friend had one as her first car. Then this older fella walks up and, completely unprompted, starts telling us about how much he paid for his first car which was a Mini. I was interested at first but when my dad tried to relate to him with his own stories the fella just cut in again with something else about himself. My dad suggested whimsically that I tell him about how I came to own a £12 car but the fella immediately cut in with another story, this time about his £18 Ford Prefect.  Do people not realise that if they don't let others speak they could be missing out on something really interesting? I bid him good day and walked away slowly.

So, today it was a BH in some parts and I tooled about in the Corsa all day. Nobody could annoy me or give some sort of derogatory 'opinion' because I was driving the flipping thing and likely in the opposite direction from them. I really enjoyed it.

From now on I'm keeping my hobby for myself, I'll enjoy it much more that way.

Fuck 'em.

[Mrcento]

Sounds a bit like me driving a Cinquecento into a show featuring Ferraris.

You usually get some dickhead saying something like "my daughter had one for a week 10 years ago before i bought her something better".

[SiC]

Owning an MGB you just become hardened and ignoring the usual comments. I enjoy it and I don't care if others don't. At the same time there are plenty of other people that do enjoy the same models too. 

Just smile, nod, say "that's nice" and walk on. Spend the least time possible, so you can get back to enjoying the rest of the show. 

[captain_70s]

I drive the worst variant of the BL Dolomite as far as most are concerned.

It is very* popular. There is a certain variant of middle class giffer who appreciate them though.

[paulplom]

II'm having loads of bother with my neighbour upstairs. She's an alcoholic with three young children. There's loud music all day, her shouting at them usually starts at around 6-30-7 and continues till 9pm ish. She' starts drinking in the communal bit outside at around 10 with her dad, boy friend, mother and even her grand mother was there Sunday. There's bags of rubbish everywhere empty cans and rubbish strewn all over etc. By 7pm they were all mortal and a massive fight ensued. I'm not sure what it was over but the kids were screaming in hysterics and being dragged and pushed all over (twins of about 4 or 5 and a son of about 2 or 3). The language is horrendous. She often shouting and calling them little fucking cunts. Get out of the house you little cunt etc. As I said the screaming at them starts between 6 and 7. The kids are great and really polite and friendly. I feel really sorry for them. It's got to the stage now where we're feeling very uncomfortable and anxious. We're leaving and going out for the day so we don't have to endure it. We bbqd at the beach all day yesterday and we were both filled with dread when we pulled up back home again. The whole cul de sac is totally fed up with her but no one is taking any action as of yet. It's a really lovely place to be apart from this 1 bad apple spoiling it for everyone. It's like living in a gold fish bowl atm. She was at my daughters window last night asking her what the fuck she was doing in bed at 8pm. I've tried a few times to have a word but I just get told to fuck off. Looking for advice. Is informing the council the next step? What about social services? If my kids weren't with me it wouldn't be a problem. A good squeeze of her throat and a death threat would probably sort it and I'm having to sit on my hand to avoid doing it. I'm shaking with rage typing this.

[paulplom]

It's not just now and then it's every single fucking day.

[omegod]

Definately one for Children's safeguarding team also if it's a housing association or local authority housing contact them and ask for the local housing officer. Ideally as much info as possible such as neighbours keeping diaries of events as well as recordings of barnies, not necessarily to get an eviction but maybe get her to access alcohol support 

[BorniteIdentity]

  On 26/08/2019 at 21:44, SiC said:

Owning an MGB you just become hardened and ignoring the usual comments. I enjoy it and I don't care if others don't. At the same time there are plenty of other people that do enjoy the same models too. 

Just smile, nod, say "that's nice" and walk on. Spend the least time possible, so you can get back to enjoying the rest of the show. 

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Quite right.

I have found having a mildly amusing write up in the car’s screen sets the tone nicely and will always increase ‘dwell time’. 

But I don’t hang around to hear what people have to say either. I park up and piss off!

I will likely try RRG next year because - having been to shows on and off over the last two years - I prefer seeing cars on the move. That is, after all, what they were created to do. Also, the mindset seems to be enthusiasm for pretty much everything, which I really like.

[paulplom]

Lie in today the shouting has just started. I'm totally fucking sick of hearing her voice. I've been through the ss procedure myself my ex whas a full blown alchy. The flats do belong to the council and I'm sure they have a team to deal with anti social behaviour. I think it's time I found out.

[Floatylight]

  On 27/08/2019 at 06:20, paulplom said:

Lie in today the shouting has just started. I'm totally fucking sick of hearing her voice. I've been through the ss procedure myself my ex whas a full blown alchy. The flats do belong to the council and I'm sure they have a team to deal with anti social behaviour. I think it's time I found out.

Yep, call the council's housing team and safeguarding / social workers, if it's in the middle of a full blown row / fear for the kids safety call the Police and relay the drunk and disorderly, screaming and fin and jeffin at the little kids..

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[Shirley Knott]

  On 27/08/2019 at 05:40, paulplom said:

II'm having loads of bother with my neighbour upstairs. She's an alcoholic with three young children. There's loud music all day, her shouting at them usually starts at around 6-30-7 and continues till 9pm ish. She' starts drinking in the communal bit outside at around 10 with her dad, boy friend, mother and even her grand mother was there Sunday. There's bags of rubbish everywhere empty cans and rubbish strewn all over etc. By 7pm they were all mortal and a massive fight ensued. I'm not sure what it was over but the kids were screaming in hysterics and being dragged and pushed all over (twins of about 4 or 5 and a son of about 2 or 3). The language is horrendous. She often shouting and calling them little fucking cunts. Get out of the house you little cunt etc. As I said the screaming at them starts between 6 and 7. The kids are great and really polite and friendly. I feel really sorry for them. It's got to the stage now where we're feeling very uncomfortable and anxious. We're leaving and going out for the day so we don't have to endure it. We bbqd at the beach all day yesterday and we were both filled with dread when we pulled up back home again. The whole cul de sac is totally fed up with her but no one is taking any action as of yet. It's a really lovely place to be apart from this 1 bad apple spoiling it for everyone. It's like living in a gold fish bowl atm. She was at my daughters window last night asking her what the fuck she was doing in bed at 8pm. I've tried a few times to have a word but I just get told to fuck off. Looking for advice. Is informing the council the next step? What about social services? If my kids weren't with me it wouldn't be a problem. A good squeeze of her throat and a death threat would probably sort it and I'm having to sit on my hand to avoid doing it. I'm shaking with rage typing this.

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I can relate to this

We used to live in a fairly pleasant terraced cul de sac and it was great for about eight years until the owners of the house next door to us lost their main income and it was repossessed. It was sold at auction to a career buy to let landlord who moved a procession of increasingly anti-social dole wallers in. First it was a father and son team, both heavy drinkers and big arguments all day and night that often spilled out into the street followed with police in attendance often. They moved out and we collectively breathed a sigh of relief, little did we know the next couple would be worse with just the same mix of drinking/police/fighting but round the clock loud music to boot!

We tried reasoning with them (Didn't work) By the end myself and the bloke on the other side decided that we'd join forces, found out where the landlord lived after much investigation (Surprise surprise 400k house in a nice quiet country area about five miles away) and whenever there were arguments late at night and the whole street was being kept awake at 3AM by blasting music, we'd both get into a car and knock on the landlords door until he answered to let him know what misery his tenants were causing us and to tell him none of us could sleep. Understandably he didn't like this much.

Eventually, as at this stage my son was about 3 moths old, I decided enough was enough. We simply sold up and spent twice as much as the house sold for to by one half the size but in a quiet middle class area full of elderly folk. Best thing we ever did, at night you can hear a pin drop, we're no longer constantly in fight or flight mode and my little lad can sleep without being constantly disturbed.

[Split_Pin]

Not a nice situation to be in with bad neighbours. I can relate to the feelings of anger and anxiety. I had an alcoholic neighbour who also happened to be a nurse. Music, scumbag friends around that sort of thing. Alarm bells should have rung when the person I was buying the house from said that she had a wee boy but he didn't stay with her.

Hope you get it sorted before you snap. Not a good outcome if you end up doing time in the Big Hoose because of some piece of shit human that the world would be better off without.

[dozeydustman]

Good start to the day - air pressure relief valve jammed open so brakes locked on. Making good time as well...

arsecrumbs

 

[Alex66]

  On 27/08/2019 at 05:40, paulplom said:

II'm having loads of bother with my neighbour upstairs. She's an alcoholic with three young children. There's loud music all day, her shouting at them usually starts at around 6-30-7 and continues till 9pm ish. She' starts drinking in the communal bit outside at around 10 with her dad, boy friend, mother and even her grand mother was there Sunday. There's bags of rubbish everywhere empty cans and rubbish strewn all over etc. By 7pm they were all mortal and a massive fight ensued. I'm not sure what it was over but the kids were screaming in hysterics and being dragged and pushed all over (twins of about 4 or 5 and a son of about 2 or 3). The language is horrendous. She often shouting and calling them little fucking cunts. Get out of the house you little cunt etc. As I said the screaming at them starts between 6 and 7. The kids are great and really polite and friendly. I feel really sorry for them. It's got to the stage now where we're feeling very uncomfortable and anxious. We're leaving and going out for the day so we don't have to endure it. We bbqd at the beach all day yesterday and we were both filled with dread when we pulled up back home again. The whole cul de sac is totally fed up with her but no one is taking any action as of yet. It's a really lovely place to be apart from this 1 bad apple spoiling it for everyone. It's like living in a gold fish bowl atm. She was at my daughters window last night asking her what the fuck she was doing in bed at 8pm. I've tried a few times to have a word but I just get told to fuck off. Looking for advice. Is informing the council the next step? What about social services? If my kids weren't with me it wouldn't be a problem. A good squeeze of her throat and a death threat would probably sort it and I'm having to sit on my hand to avoid doing it. I'm shaking with rage typing this.

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Call Social Services, explain what you have seen go on, alas it takes an age  for them to go through the process as their hands are some what tied behind their backs. But from what you have said it is certainly seems to be neglect and probably child abuse. 

[GrumpiusMaximus]

  On 27/08/2019 at 05:40, paulplom said:

II'm having loads of bother with my neighbour upstairs. She's an alcoholic with three young children. There's loud music all day, her shouting at them usually starts at around 6-30-7 and continues till 9pm ish. She' starts drinking in the communal bit outside at around 10 with her dad, boy friend, mother and even her grand mother was there Sunday. There's bags of rubbish everywhere empty cans and rubbish strewn all over etc. By 7pm they were all mortal and a massive fight ensued. I'm not sure what it was over but the kids were screaming in hysterics and being dragged and pushed all over (twins of about 4 or 5 and a son of about 2 or 3). The language is horrendous. She often shouting and calling them little fucking cunts. Get out of the house you little cunt etc. As I said the screaming at them starts between 6 and 7. The kids are great and really polite and friendly. I feel really sorry for them. It's got to the stage now where we're feeling very uncomfortable and anxious. We're leaving and going out for the day so we don't have to endure it. We bbqd at the beach all day yesterday and we were both filled with dread when we pulled up back home again. The whole cul de sac is totally fed up with her but no one is taking any action as of yet. It's a really lovely place to be apart from this 1 bad apple spoiling it for everyone. It's like living in a gold fish bowl atm. She was at my daughters window last night asking her what the fuck she was doing in bed at 8pm. I've tried a few times to have a word but I just get told to fuck off. Looking for advice. Is informing the council the next step? What about social services? If my kids weren't with me it wouldn't be a problem. A good squeeze of her throat and a death threat would probably sort it and I'm having to sit on my hand to avoid doing it. I'm shaking with rage typing this.

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It's absolutely essential that you call Social Services.  Now.  These kids have a chance at a better life if somebody helps the family, even if that means she loses them on a temporary basis.  These kids have one shot at life and their Mum can't be the reason that they're fucked up in ten years.  They deserve better.

Keep a diary of the dates and times that you hear things going on.  It might not be useful to Social Services but it might very well be and it may make the process easier.

[myglaren]

My first thought was Social Services but they have the unfortunate reputation of going in all guns blazing and exacerbating the problem, or sitting on their hands until it explodes uncontrollably.

[Alex66]

  On 27/08/2019 at 09:22, myglaren said:

My first thought was Social Services but they have the unfortunate reputation of going in all guns blazing and exacerbating the problem, or sitting on their hands until it explodes uncontrollably.

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Which is BS they have to work with in very tight frame works and unlike people like to make out they can not just go in and remove the kids, it has to go to a judge to sign an order. Only if there is an extreme case will the kids be removed without them being forced to "work with the family". 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

Office (non-airconditioned) is a feckin' furnace at 11am. Going dizzy in the heat.

Still, at least 2-litres of sparkling water only costs 50p. It's not just sparkling water; it's M&S sparkling water.

[GrumpiusMaximus]

  On 27/08/2019 at 09:22, myglaren said:

My first thought was Social Services but they have the unfortunate reputation of going in all guns blazing and exacerbating the problem, or sitting on their hands until it explodes uncontrollably.

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What's the alternative?  Let the kids live with an abusive parent that screams at them and calls them 'cunts'?  Form a vigilante group and kidnap them?  Or ignore it in the knowledge that the children could have a better life with just a phone call?

[myglaren]

  On 27/08/2019 at 10:22, GrumpiusMaximus said:

What's the alternative?  Let the kids live with an abusive parent that screams at them and calls them 'cunts'?  Form a vigilante group and kidnap them?  Or ignore it in the knowledge that the children could have a better life with just a phone call?

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Certainly little alternative but some of their past 'victories' do give pause to calling them in.

[gm]

I have no knowledge or experience in such matters but if the kids are at risk, I'd say call the police, they will involve social services anyway and may get a quicker response than calling them independently. damn tricky when your own kids are so close by, you don't want to put them in the firing line of this woman's anger. could your own kids spend a few days at granny's while it kicks off ? 

 

[loserone]

  On 27/08/2019 at 10:33, myglaren said:

Certainly little alternative but some of their past 'victories' do give pause to calling them in.

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Remember that press coverage of such events is likely to be skewed in favour of making a story, I've seen similar close-hand.

[scdan4]

Safety in numbers. You say others share concerns, get them to call in as well.

1 report is low priority. 10+ reports less so...

[stuboy]

just call safeguarding, anonymously, kids shouldve have to live in such a toxic unit

[barefoot]

  On 26/08/2019 at 10:36, Bren said:

Bought a headlight restoration kit off ebay.

End result? Shite. Not convinced you can sand clear plastic and expect a new finish after. I put them on a par with those pellets you used to put in your fuel tank.

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I have heard from a reliable source that if you mix up a paste using baking powder/cream of tartare or the other one & water, it will polish up plastic headlights like new.

[New POD]

  On 27/08/2019 at 09:22, myglaren said:

My first thought was Social Services but they have the unfortunate reputation of going in all guns blazing and exacerbating the problem, or sitting on their hands until it explodes uncontrollably.

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I think you'll find that the daily mail version is not actually how it is. 

Niece works in child protection, and as far as i can see the parents get alot of chances. Unless it's really bad. Even then they try to rebuild things. 

[captain_70s]

I've run out of money.

Bank won't give me a bigger overdraft, the overdraft is maxed out at -£1250.

I've had to scrounge some money off my parents. Things are grim.

[Tamworthbay]

I have had to work  members of the social services child protection teams for twenty plus years now, and have produced reports for them and acted as an appointed expert on multiple occasions so have a bit of insight into how they work. In that time I have come across a variety of characters, some better than others but only one who was a complete twat. The procedures are strictly controlled and they are under a lot of scrutiny. The Daily Fail shite is responsible for tarring a very hard working and under appreciated group of people. In the circumstances described I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to give them a call, it can even be done anonymously if you wish. 

[vulgalour]

We had a problem neighbour in our last house, screaming at the kids, etc.  The kids themselves were always well behaved on the rare occasion you saw them.  It got to a point where we had to call the services and express our concerns, the neighbour wouldn't talk to anyone.  After a short while, the partner appeared and started sharing responsibility for the kids and things calmed down considerably and while I never got the whole story of the situation, for obvious reasons, it did seem that involving the services resulted in a happy neighbour, happier kids, and a better quality of life all round.  Sometimes, people just need help, even if they're behaving like the sorts you'd like to see take a long trip down a short flight of stairs.  Of course, sometimes people are just dicks, but the services are there to help with that too.

[paulplom]

Her kids are nearly always out playing. She won't let them in the house through the day unless for toilet etc. Then it's get away from the fucking door etc. I feel they're kind of bringing themselves up.

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