Late registration madness

[Richard_FM]

4 hours ago, Eyersey1234 said:

IIRC weren't there loads of unregistered Mk4 Escorts on the system in 1990 at the launch of the Mk5 so quite a few Mk4s were registered in 1991 on H plates, not sure if any got J plates

Certainly I remember a lot of Mk4s on H plates, at one time I used to note which regs there was a change of model, sometimes a spring launch would lead to an uneven overlap.

B reg Mk3 Granadas were always rare to spot, same with R reg Mk4 Astras,

[Ghosty]

Spotted on Marketplace - imported mk1 MX5 on a T. Looks like an early car so I guess it was imported in 1998 and got a T plate because it was current?
The mk1 was only available up to P/R at the latest, and those are uncommon.

 

[New POD]

Ours was an R, but currently has a private plate which makes it look 1992 (J) 

[TheOtherStu]

From the ebay tat thread.

Ford Puma 1.4

 

According to Wiki, they only made the 1.4 up to 2000 and this one being on a late 2001 plate.

Howmanyleft seems to concur too. Peak for numbers registered was Q1 2001.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/ford_puma_1.4_1.6v

[LightBulbFun]

pinched from facebook

more DVLA registration madness then late registration madness mind

as I suspect this was computerised in 1979 under its original  plate and at some point then robbed of its plate and give a T suffix according to its computerisation date as its date of original registration was not recorded

(although I have not verified this as the only tool I have currently that spits out previous registration marks is my paid for tool and thats low on credit which im still trying to stretch LOL)

 

I know a Routemaster, RM23 ended up similarly on a T suffix plate LGH31T because of that for a period, sadly I have not been able to find any photos of it wearing that plate as it after a couple years someone requested an age related plate for it and it was then given the age related plate JFO256

I wonder if @Yoss or @busmansholiday might know of any pics from when it was LGH31T? because a Routemaster on a T suffix plate sounds all sorts of fun/wrong  

[Yoss]

Well I never knew that! My 1985 London bus handbook shows it still as VLT 23. It also has a yellow highlighter through it which means that I have travelled on it, though to find out where or on what route would mean trawling through a lot of my records. 

My 2000 Routemaster handbook has it already as JFO 256 and in storage with a company called London Bus Services Ltd. 

 

And my 2017 RM handbook has this! 

So it's registration is the least of its worries. This picture was taken in Novosibirsk which is seriously far east in deepest Siberia, just above Mongolia. I would love to know if it drove there. It has a Cummins engine now so there's no reason why not. 

[busmansholiday]

2 hours ago, Yoss said:

This picture was taken in Novosibirsk which is seriously far east in deepest Siberia, just above Mongolia. I would love to know if it drove there. It had an  AEC engine so there's no reason why not. 

FTFY.

and no, doubt I've a picture.

[LightBulbFun]

3 minutes ago, busmansholiday said:

2 hours ago, Yoss said:

This picture was taken in Novosibirsk which is seriously far east in deepest Siberia, just above Mongolia. I would love to know if it drove there. if It still had its  AEC engine there would be no reason why not. but RM23 was sadly a Victim of the Dartmaster scheme

FTFY.

EFA.

[Yoss]

Ah yes now I look closer I can see the hopper windows. In that case, they can keep it, Siberias not far enough. Awful things. 

[Richard_FM]

This Dart has a Routemaster registration, which was on a Hyundai i10 when I last checked.

History:

VLT240 Dennis Dart DT32 - Hyundai I10 2011 (G32 TGW)

DT28-41, with Carlyle bodies, went to Selkent's low-cost unit at Orpington, to operate Roundabout routes R1 and R11. These wore Roundabout livery: red with grey skirt, but with the white tape at cant-rail level and prominent Roundabout fleetnames. They were for routes R1 and R11, where they took over from Metroriders.

R1: OB: Bromley Common (Crown) - Green Street Green - Orpington - St Pauls Cray - Sidcup (Queen Mary's Hospital)
    
R11: OB: Green Street Green - Orpington - St Pauls Cray - Sidcup

DT32  G32 TGW   

6/90    8.5m Dart SDL3003/180, Carlyle Dartline C25.069, B28F
                

6/90 OB into service (R1, R11) (Orpington)
                

1991 OB
                
9/92 OB accident damaged: into store fitted with high destination box
                

2/93 OB in service on R1 to Sidcup: Roundabout $
      
VLT 240   
2/93    reregistered
                
3/93 OB return to service OB in service on R11 to Sidcup: Roundabout $
                

9/94 OB privatised to Stagecoach Selkent
               

10/95 TB transfer (Bromley)
               

11/95 TB in service on Bromley Park & Ride: Stagecoach red $
                

1/96 TL transfer (Catford)
                

4/96 TB transfer
                

5/96 TL transfer
      
G32 TGW   
7/97    reregistered
               
11/97 TB transfer into store
                
5/98 TB
                
6/98    transfer to Stagecoach Devon, #769
               
10/98    still in red with high destination box
                
5/99    in service, Exeter: Devon General white'n'stripes $
                
7/00    Devon General #769
            
by 10/02    bought by Bradford Blue (Bodman & Heath), Wiltshire
                
2/06    in service, Bodman's: blue $$
     
BUS107  
by 7/06    bought by Lowger Bus Lines, St Johns, Antigua, #AZ086
                
*/08    withdrawn into store
                
*/10    in store, withdrawn

 

[Yegoloda]

Saw this at a car show today, Audi Quattro on an R Plate.

[bunglebus]

Just seen an Austin Healey on a H prefix plate. Didn't get all of it but was H605

[MisterH]

On 8/21/2021 at 4:17 PM, Yegoloda said:

Saw this at a car show today, Audi Quattro on an R Plate.

That could well be a personal plate  

Or was there something that said you can't have plates that look newer than the car? 

As far as my quattro lore goes, I think the last ones were delivered in 91, and the last sold in 94 I think? 

[horriblemercedes]

1 minute ago, MisterH said:

That could well be a personal plate  

Or was there something that said you can't have plates that look newer than the car? 

As far as my quattro lore goes, I think the last ones were delivered in 91, and the last sold in 94 I think? 

Shouldn't be possible to put a later plate on an older car but mistakes do happen. My 52 plate car ended up with an 03 after a plate change and a new plate being assigned. 

 

Used to be common that imports would end up with a plate reflecting the date of import rather than date of build 

[horriblemercedes]

7 hours ago, bunglebus said:

Just seen an Austin Healey on a H prefix plate. Didn't get all of it but was H605

Could it have been a Sebring? 

[Formula Autos]

15 minutes ago, horriblemercedes said:

Could it have been a Sebring? 

There’s been several kit car versions of the big Healeys over the years. Some were Sierra based, so the H plate could have easily transferred over from a donor vehicle.

[horriblemercedes]

Just now, Formula Autos said:

There’s been several kit car versions of the big Healeys over the years. Some were Sierra based, so the H plate could have easily transferred over from a donor vehicle.

Yes, I was thinking of a Sierra-based kit mainly. Sebring was the first that came to mind but as you say, so many kit cars of various types ended up with an identity from a Sierra

[LightBulbFun]

4 minutes ago, horriblemercedes said:

Used to be common that imports would end up with a plate reflecting the date of import rather than date of build 

that practice stopped August 1st 1983 for the most part but indeed before that imports would be given a plate according to first registration in the UK

although after that date you can still get get the odd case that when such an imported vehicle or say re-registered old vehicle, that is then robbed of its original plate will then accidentally be given a plate based on first registration with the DVLA rather then its year of manufacture as it should be given

see B150SDC ex DWP40 as an example up this thread  

 

the above Audi looks to have genuinely been registered as a new car in 1997 and as such given a then current plate

so is genuinely late registration madness in this case  

 

[horriblemercedes]

5 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

that practice stopped August 1st 1983 for the most part but indeed before that imports would be given a plate according to first registration in the UK

although after that date you can still get get the odd case that when such an imported vehicle or say re-registered old vehicle, that is then robbed of its original plate will then accidentally be given a plate based on first registration with the DVLA rather then its year of manufacture as it should be given

see B150SDC ex DWP40 as an example up this thread  

 

the above Audi looks to have genuinely been registered as a new car in 1997 and as such given a then current plate

so is genuinely late registration madness in this case  

 

Agreed on all, but I've still seen it happen surprisingly many times more recently. Admittedly sometimes the circumstances are a little different than simply getting a plate for date of import. 

 

I agree that the Audi looks like it was registered on an R. Always interesting to see that happen. 

 

In the case of my car, it was first used in October 2002 on Danish export plates. Brought to the UK and used on them until June 2003 where it was registered for the first time, given a 52 Brighton plate. 

 

Later, after a private plate was removed, it was assigned a new 03 to reflect June 2003 (presumably the original 52 Brighton plate had disappeared or ended up on something else)

[quicksilver]

I reckon that Audi was bought as an investment and stored away unused and unregistered for a few years. That often happens when a desirable car goes out of production and investors snap up the last ones hoping to make a mint - witness the numerous late reg madness MGBs that have graced this thread over the years as an example.

[bunglebus]

On 06/09/2021 at 20:25, horriblemercedes said:

Could it have been a Sebring? 

Saw it again - H506BGF. Comes up as "Classic Roadster" so definite replica

[timolloyd]

1983 Triumph Spitfire: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-A-REG-TRIUMPH-SPITFIRE-1500-OVERDRIVE-40K-MILES-/144235141223?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

[willswitchengage]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203643406597?hash=item2f6a17c905:g:kxwAAOSwYT1hYRpv

Could be an import registration error or could be legit - wiki says these were made until 2013 (!!) and the odd bumper and lights may be a more recent variant.

[MorrisItalSLX]

That’s probably an import from Australia, they were sold here until 2013 as the Mitsubishi Express.

[willswitchengage]

Just Googled - who knew Mitsi had a go in the Renault/GM Trafic rebadging experiment?

[Cento16v]

I guess this I saw today is quite a late Escort?

[Tommyboy12]

The Escort was made up to 2000 so pretty normal. I had an S reg one a few years back. 51 and 02 Escorts did exist.

[twosmoke300]

Vans went on even later .

[LightBulbFun]

Pinched from Facebook  (I know not technically late registration madness since they are still made, but its still amusing to see a 71 plate on what is a 1970's car, one of the few vintage cars left still in production)

its nice to see that the guy who suddenly decided to start importing them is actually selling some! (this is the first one since that venture I have seen outside of the 21 plate Demonstrator thats well known)

 If I had the means id love to get one  (https://lada4x4.co.uk/ id get a base with steel wheels, although probably see if I could spec Air conditioning because im soft like that)

[christian6984]