The grumpy thread

[MrDuke]

If I'm progressing in my lane at XXmph, and someone is on my outside doing XX-10mph, then it's not illegal for me to continue past them. What annoys me even more than the lane hoggers, is people who can't understand that simple concept and need to either slow to the same speed, or dive across and funnel through the outside lane.

 

My grump tonight is trying to explain why modern diesels are pointless (on another forum) to someone who knows that they're amazing because they've been driving for 40 years and do 50k a year. Yes, I know I should just ignore them, but I think it's my time of the month.

[bub2006]

Im also under the impression it is not illegal to pass on the inside if for example there are cars in l2 and im in a clear l1 i will pass on the inside.

[Lord Sterling]

I travel a lot on motorways and always see these middle and outside lane hoggers. Most are basically just zoned out, as long as they are making some progress in a forward manner and not crashing into something blatantly in front of them then they generally don't give much of a shit what is happening around them which is evident when they do eventually have to change lanes and end up nearly crashing into the vehicle next to them. Most will wake up when a vehicle travelling faster than them passes them from the inside or flashes thier lights or something. Some won't and are blatantly dozy or believe they have some "right" to be in that lane and not move over. Those are the ones who are most dangerous.

 

Also the right-hand lane lemmings is something it just don't get, particularly in heavy traffic. I can mostly make more progress in the left-hand lane in heavy traffic than I ever could in the right. Again, it's peoples unthinking perceptions; we are taught that the right-hand lane is an overtaking lane, but even when that clearly isn't the case most people will still jump into that lane anyway thinking it'll move a lot quicker than the other lanes.

[Pillock]

It's not illegal to pass on the inside, if you've not changed lanes specifically to do it. You should proceed in the leftmost lane.

 

Rule 268 is typically contradictory though and says

Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

 

Do not overtake on the left!

Unless these quite vague conditions are satisfied.

(How congested is congested? Is the presence of slower moving vehicles in lanes 2/3/4 a sign of congestion? What if there is nothing visible in lane 1, can you still be keeping up with traffic you can't see?)

[M'coli]

In other words, if it's a "traffic situation" passing on the left is fine. If you're in lane 1 doing about 70, lane 2 is empty, and lanes 3 and 4 are going slower than 70, it's not you whose driving should be brought into question.

No doubt those in lanes 3 & 4 will argue that lanes 1 & 2 are for HGVs.

[wuvvum]

I used to pull out from lane 1 to lane 3 to overtake middle lane dawdlers, and then pull back into lane 1 right across their bow.  I've done enough motorway miles in the Rover of Doom that I can judge where the back is to within about 6 inches or so.  Some of them even used to get the point.  These days I really can't be arsed any more though, and I just pass them on the left.

[nebuchenezer]

While I will not admit to driving over the NSL I do find it incredibly irritating to have some cock warbler flash me to get past at close to 3 figure speeds.

 

As a mainly weekday motorway driver I do actually believe that I am not safe driving on a motorway at weekends as I do not understand why weekend drivers are trying to kill me

[chaseracer]

Middle laning bunglecunts that don't understand why I'm flashing them and using the horn to get them to move the fuck in when they're doing 62.

 

Now I'm past you, turn your fucking full beams off you bellsniff.

 

As indicated above, just stay in lane 1 and serenely pass them on the left, entirely lawfully since you won't have changed lanes to do so.  Helps your stress levels, too...

[bub2006]

Very rare i actually go into l3 or 4. Also very rare i do any less than 65. I still seem to make good progression. Some folk cant drive. Hell im not perfect but im courteous and think of other road users.

[Noel Tidybeard]

Last of the Mk2 transits with the plastic grill and square headlights.

 

same as early mk1 disco or mgb comercial?

[beko1987]

If their doing 60 in l2 with nothing infront of them I carry on in l1 and waft past. 100% of the time when I've glanced over as I pass they don't even know I'm there!

[bramz7]

There's a very active thread on some Facebook car selling page about a guy whose old BMW on his drive got a POLICE AWARE sticker on the windscreen. It's taxed and insured but without MOT.

There's a lot of tin foil hat wearing comments and shouty blokes attempting to be the biggest knob.

 

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F252509238186

 

 

SIGH

[Kiltox]

Doesn’t even look like a real police aware sticker

 

Ask me how I know

[Exiled_Tat_Gatherer]

On the motorway lanes - I was actually greeted here in Belgium by a (company car driving) colleague who's first comments included - UK, you lot sit in the middle of the motorway all the time don't you......... I kid you not. It's famous in Europe!

The fact that the Belgo's do exactly the same thing is neither here nor there. There are a LOT of only 2 lane carriageways throughout Belgium and the fudge-packing-leatherpant-wearing-goat-felchers still sit in the outer lane constantly.......

You are not alone my brethren, it's a global dumbing down of those holding a licence.

 

On the other hand - Germany is a sight better, but that's because they're expecting another company car driving Andretti to show up at 250km/h+ in their mirrors with the headlights on full beam and indicators going....... been a fair few panicked drivers crashed because of this type of behaviour sadly.

 

Sit inside - if you're progressing better then they are - so be it.

[Anthony]

On the motorway lanes - I was actually greeted here in Belgium by a (company car driving) colleague who's first comments included - UK, you lot sit in the middle of the motorway all the time don't you......... I kid you not. It's famous in Europe!

The fact that the Belgo's do exactly the same thing is neither here nor there. There are a LOT of only 2 lane carriageways throughout Belgium and the fudge-packing-leatherpant-wearing-goat-felchers still sit in the outer lane constantly.......

TBH I've always found driving on Belgium motorways fairly easy going with fairly good driving and lane discipline, at least compared to what I experience daily in the UK.

 

The exception to that being on or in the vicinity of the Brussels ring-road which is utter bedlam with driving standards that leave much to be desired. Well, when it's not one huge traffic jam anyway...

[Pillock]

As indicated above, just stay in lane 1 and serenely pass them on the left, entirely lawfully since you won't have changed lanes to do so.  Helps your stress levels, too...

 

I tend to do this more confidently when there's a hard shoulder.

When it's Active Traffic and I'm on the running shoulder, I'm a bit nervous that if they did suddenly realise they were in the wrong lane (or even take offence to me passing them on the left) I've got nowhere to go. Especially when it's a HGV. 

 

However, that said I do find that certain sections of Active motorways - such as the M42 North between Solihull and the A45 - you get a free run, an entire lane to yourself even if lanes 2/3/4 are at standstill. Nobody uses it! You can easily pass a couple of hundred stationary cars.

[Aston Martin]

Just received a letter “safety recall, bonnet striker needs strengthening.”

 

I love the thought of having the bonnet fly up whilst driving, who do Citroen think they are? An early ‘00s Renault?

[cobblers]

KFC "Double Down" burger:

 

 

Why the fuck did I eat that? I couldn't decide what to get, so I just ordered whatever was on a special.

 

I thought it had been made wrong til I googled it.

Instead of bread, it's 2 pieces of (bland) chicken.

Instead of a tasty burger filling, it had bacon and various colours of goo.

 

Usually when I eat something as unhealthy as this, it tastes good. Now I'm gonna end up eggbound and it was all for nothing.

[Stanky]

Is it not searingly hot to hold? I thought that was part of the point with a conventional burger, the bread acts as insulation for the (hopefully) hot filling?

 

It looks extremely unappealing. and messy. and hot.

[Ghosty]

Amazon sent me a £200 PC part with no packaging. It came in it’s off-the-shelf flap box, sealed on one side by the very edge of the address label. It was entirely possible to take the part out of the box as delivered with no effort.

Who OKs that?

[Aston Martin]

Amazon sent me a £200 PC part with no packaging. It came in it’s off-the-shelf flap box, sealed on one side by the very edge of the address label. It was entirely possible to take the part out of the box as delivered with no effort.

Who OKs that?

Was it from amazon themselves or a reseller?

 

If it was amazon tell them on live chat, they’ll give you a voucher.

[Bobthebeard]

KFC "Double Down" burger:

 

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Why the fuck did I eat that? I couldn't decide what to get, so I just ordered whatever was on a special.

 

I thought it had been made wrong til I googled it.

Instead of bread, it's 2 pieces of (bland) chicken.

Instead of a tasty burger filling, it had bacon and various colours of goo.

 

 

 

Usually when I eat something as unhealthy as this, it tastes good. Now I'm gonna end up eggbound and it was all for nothing.

That looks... Errrrr. Terrible. I think that my dog would give that a swerve, and she isn't picky.

[Bren]

HID I had fitted to the vectra has already failed on one side.

 

I am very pissed off.

[chaseracer]

You are not alone my brethren, it's a global dumbing down of those holding a licence.

 

On the other hand - Germany is a sight better, but that's because they're expecting another company car driving Andretti to show up at 250km/h+ in their mirrors with the headlights on full beam and indicators going...

 

Back in March, as FPB7 and I made our pilgrimage to Volvoburg and Saabhattan, we travelled through five European countries in one day, then two more the next.  The difference in driving standards and approach at each national border was remarkable. 

[eddyramrod]

Giffer Rover, which has been parked round the corner since Wednesday, had a "don't park here" note under the wipers today, with a PS "you have more cars than anyone."  I've filed it under B for Bin, obvs, but it doesn't do much for my mood (regardless of how true it is!  Yes, I do have more cars than anyone, it's not my fault the street is all terraced with no driveways though, is it?).

[oldcars]

KFC "Double Down" burger:

 

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Why the fuck did I eat that? I couldn't decide what to get, so I just ordered whatever was on a special.

 

I thought it had been made wrong til I googled it.

Instead of bread, it's 2 pieces of (bland) chicken.

Instead of a tasty burger filling, it had bacon and various colours of goo.

 

Usually when I eat something as unhealthy as this, it tastes good. Now I'm gonna end up eggbound and it was all for nothing.

That bacon looks grim. Just googled it to, might have one before the stop selling them. That and a butter pie, see if i am still alive the next day.

[chaseracer]

When it's Active Traffic and I'm on the running shoulder, I'm a bit nervous that if they did suddenly realise they were in the wrong lane (or even take offence to me passing them on the left) I've got nowhere to go. Especially when it's a HGV.

 

If the M6 southbound from 10A is typical, the heavies don't bother with lane 1, preferring to fill up 2 and 3 even though the lane drop at gate 9 is FOUR BLOODY MILES AWAY.

 

And breathe...

 

[Bobthebeard]

Giffer Rover, which has parked round the corner since Wednesday, had a "don't park here" note under the wipers today, with a PS "you have more cars than anyone."  I've filed it under B for Bin, obvs, but it doesn't do much for my mood (regardless of how true it is!  Yes, I do have more cars than anyone, it's not my fault the street is all terraced with no driveways though, is it?).

Rubbish. I have more cars than anyone. If they want to see more cars than anyone they can come round here with their silly notes. Pah!

Nosy parkers.

[chaseracer]

PS "you have more cars than anyone."

 

"Aye, and they're all taxed, ticketed and insured.  So your cowardly passive/aggressive shit has no effect.  Goodbye."

[danthecapriman]

That bacon looks grim. Just googled it to, might have one before the stop selling them. That and a butter pie, see if i am still alive the next day.

Tbh, it's whatever the yellow/cream thing is that's my main concern! It looks like puss!!