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dieselnutjob Rank: Renault 16

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I've had a Peugeot 806 HDI for years. It's been as tough as old boots and now has 200,000 miles on it, and it has 8 seats. Two of them are lap belts. The 806 is wey, wey simpler than the 807. Mine actually has the cat and EGR valve totally removed and it doesn't complain.I don't quite understand the kiddie seat problem. I alway managed to strap one down with a lapbelt okay. Things are actually more dangerous now as the kids are now on booster seats so only the lap belt on them.Cars that other friends haveT4 caravelle with the 5 cyl TDI engine and 8 seats.Toyota Hiace Jap import with 2.5 turbo diesel and auto trans.

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We bought estate cars and put surplus children in the boot, and we could fit four or five children across the back seat.As recently as the 1990s it was legal for a taxi to carry more than its plated number of passengers if some of them were children. At least it said so in the licensing conditions, I'm not sure how it would have worked out in practice.

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Father Ted Rank: Renault 16

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Lap belts in the event of an accident cause spinal and abdominal injuries, whereas the 3 point belts usually just result in bruising and a fractured clavicle.Hence why we got rid of the Xantia and got our first chicken coop on wheels - the Multispazz.I admit, life was simpler when I was a kid - we would all pile in dads HA van or David Woodlys dads Minor pick up, or Ian Raytons dads commer and sit on old milk crates....

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I've been looking at one as I need the space they offer but, quite frankly, in banger money, every one I see seems to be shagged! Which is why I went back to looking at a Merc estate again.

 

You are probably better getting a van-based vehicle such as a Hiace/Transit or even the Hyundai l10 on this page

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201010354253178/sort/priceasc/usedcars/body-type/people_carrier/price-to/2000/radius/1500/page/2/postcode/gl68pe?logcode=p

 

or this

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201009353512710/sort/priceasc/usedcars/body-type/people_carrier/price-to/2000/radius/1500/postcode/gl68pe/page/2?logcode=p

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get rid of the children.............. :?: so how DID we all manage before 7 seaters then??

Five kids, two parents, dog, assorted luggage, Austin Maxi, holidays all over Scotland. No injuries of ever.It's the people who have one baby and rush out to buy a people carrier that puzzle me. My little sis bought a brand new Galaxy diesel before her firstborn had actually even arrived.'It's safe and I need the room for the pram etc' :roll:
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get rid of the children.............. :?: so how DID we all manage before 7 seaters then??

Five kids, two parents, dog, assorted luggage, Austin Maxi, holidays all over Scotland. No injuries of ever.It's the people who have one baby and rush out to buy a people carrier that puzzle me. My little sis bought a brand new Galaxy diesel before her firstborn had actually even arrived.'It's safe and I need the room for the pram etc' :roll:
AHH!! my point exactly.... seems everybody needs ten ton of shit if they have a child now a days, bags with this and that, city pram, off road pram, buggy for city use, buggy for off road use etc, etc...too much of it is media driven hysteria "OMG I am a cruel parent if I don't have *item X* " only thing kids really need is Love....
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They certainly aren't van like (in appearance, anyway...) but I reckon you can't go far wrong with a Monty estate if you can find a good seven seater.Obviously it's goodbye to the kids if anyone so much as taps you from the back but you'd be buying BRITISH which is far more important than children's safety.

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Get a late '90s Tourneo with the 2-litre twin cam for car-like performance and noise levels. I had a SWB van with that engine and it frequently beat cars in the traffic light GP. GR8 4 drifting in the wet too. Get one with an LPG kit for added running cheapness.

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get rid of the children.............. :?: so how DID we all manage before 7 seaters then??

My dad bought a Saab 95 with 7 seats in 1972 I think it was. We used to go to France regularly and in the 70s the French police were (according to my dad) as strict about seatbelts for kids as the UK police are now. In fact my dad's cars always had child sized four point harnesses in the back, but you can't seem so buy those anymore.

Lap belts in the event of an accident cause spinal and abdominal injuries, whereas the 3 point belts usually just result in bruising and a fractured clavicle.

Understood. What I have is a child seat that goes up to six years and which has its own separate four point harness built into the child seat. Then I strap this down using the lapbelt. The child is held down with a four point harness so I think they are safe. The trouble is when they get beyond six years.
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Pog, Disco 2s rust as well as earlier ones, just in different places. Check the chassis out carefully. I saw an early one a couple of weeks ago that had over £700 of welding done to get it through a test. I would pick a V8 over the Td5 as well, purely for driveability, most diesel ones are wank to drive. Just watch for oil-in-water woes.

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don't be tempted by 2.5td Jap import stuff - as has been said the headgaskets are dairy lee and the radiators are hopeless. This applies to Toyota and Mitzy...Prieva - the UK version os the Lucida was only ever sold with a petrol engine and the MPGs are nly slightly wore than the tdi.For Mitzy's - make sure it is a Shogun (made for UK market) not a Paj import as once again the Tdi is suspect if not serviced well.Pog - I have a Mk1 7 seat Shogun V6 and all the seatbelts work fine with t he kiddie seats. The imported Paj's are the ones with the lass than splendid seatbelts - mind you nice toys.If you are doing lots of driving get an MPV - I can assure you that many miles in a Defender/Older Shogun is expensive and tiring - agricultural to say the least!

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don't be tempted by 2.5td Jap import stuff - as has been said the headgaskets are dairy lee and the radiators are hopeless. This applies to Toyota and Mitzy...

I think the problem is down to the ownership profile or the cars being utterly shagged and neglected before they're sold here and having a quick spruce up and a couple of hundred thousand kms shaved off rather than any inherent design flaw, it's funny how the UK market versions don't suffer nearly as badly.
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A top notch description there! 827 my arse! They're 825 KV6 engined. Imagine a K sealies with twice the headgaskets!I'm surprised the steam from this pair didn't put out the furnace at the crematorium!
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I think it will be a Duratoss motor in that. DMF doesn't stand for Double My Fun!
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don't be tempted by 2.5td Jap import stuff - as has been said the headgaskets are dairy lee and the radiators are hopeless.

I helped a mate buy one a couple of years ago. A 2.5td auto Hiace. It was 14 years old and just arrived from Japan. I noticed that the antifreeze looked like just water, so the first thing we did was to get the cooling system flushed an refilled with proper antifreeze. Also we changed the brake fluid and did a general service.Two years on it is coping well with central London traffic, hauling seven kids around and general abuse.We did have one issue because last year the injector pump started pissing diesel all over the place. An injection specialist removed the pump and replaced the seals and refitted it. I don't know whether the change from Jap diesel to UK diesel affected the seals.
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