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[Jazoli]

4 minutes ago, GeorgeB said:

Was he under the very back of the "landy" with all the wheels on?

He was pinned by the rear axle I was told, I believe he had a grease gun in his hand, its a mugs game and anyone climbing under at least a ton of metal being suspended in the air by a 10p O ring and trusting it not to fail because 'it never has' is desperately short of imagination.

[somewhatfoolish]

5 minutes ago, Jazoli said:

He was pinned by the rear axle I was told, I believe he had a grease gun in his hand, its a mugs game and anyone climbing under at least a ton of metal being suspended in the air by a 10p O ring and trusting it not to fail because 'it never has' is desperately short of imagination.

It was a staple of Casualty storylines for a long time; every year or so some DIYer would drop a car on himself(it was always blokes), sometimes they set themselves on fire simultaneously for an extra thrill. Not seen it for a while though, the writers have obviously decided few DIY their cars anymore(which is true).

[Minimad5]

😅 This thread not locked yet ? *

Life is a game of chance, some folk decide to take more of a chance than others. Let it be.

Edited- please read this * in a sarcastic manner.

[Jazoli]

2 minutes ago, Minimad5 said:

😅 This thread not locked yet ?

Life is a game of chance, some folk decide to take more of a chance than others. Let it be.

Why would it be locked? In the real world peoples opinions can differ 🤷

[GeorgeB]

28 minutes ago, Jazoli said:

He was pinned by the rear axle I was told,

There you go. A completely different situation from the picture under discussion.

[BorniteIdentity]

42 minutes ago, Jazoli said:

If you are that confident let's find a landy and put you underneath it and push it off the jack, seems reasonable to me.

My neighbour died last year, his jack failed whilst he was working on his defender, he was under there 3 hours before his 8 year old child found him, anyone working under an unpropped car needs their fucking head looking at.

I had my little Clio fall a couple of months ago - I’d rolled over to grab some rag and the Jack “declared” and the car came down at quite a speed. 

It wouldn’t have killed me, but I reckon it would have knocked me out cold. It could also have bounced my head against the driveway which may have killed me.

It does rather focus the mind. I knew the risks but gambled. Got lucky. 

I’d never tell someone else what to do - but I would offer some stands! 

[GeorgeB]

6 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

I had my little Clio fall a couple of months ago - I’d rolled over to grab some rag and the Jack “declared” and the car came down at quite a speed. 

It wouldn’t have killed me, but I reckon it would have knocked me out cold. It could also have bounced my head against the driveway which may have killed me.

It does rather focus the mind. I knew the risks but gambled. Got lucky. 

I’d never tell someone else what to do - but I would offer some stands! 

I shook my dolomite off stands once while fitting an exhaust. Nearly broke my arm, but I survived.

[Minimad5]

40 minutes ago, Jazoli said:

Why would it be locked? In the real world peoples opinions can differ 🤷

It was a joke, as seems to be fashion when folk tend to disagree.

[Floatylight]

School friends Dad had an accident at work and a Midland red bus landed on him when he was down the pit, took years for him to fully recover.

[HillmanImp]

1 hour ago, New POD said:

I don't trust axle stands alone. I slide my ramps under the sills so if the axle stands fail, the ramps take the weight.  Takes me ages to do any work. 

I won't even go under the car to place the axle stands. I send Imp Jr, he can fit into much tighter spaces and get them right under. 

[red5]

1 hour ago, GeorgeB said:

Not sure what you mean?

If that car fell off the jack with him lying where he is then it might just about hit his shoulder and push him flat on his back.

The chances of any major injury are negligible.

It's called risk assessment "in the  trade".

I am aware of what it means  - its not safe.  A hydraulic jack is lifting equipment, not for supporting a vehicle, especially a un-chocked one. A tyre change is really the limit. I'm aware that lots of people work on unsupported vehicles, no chocks etc - doesn't make it right.

Not sure what you're trying to prove so will leave it there. 

[GeorgeB]

13 minutes ago, red5 said:

I am aware of what it means  - its not safe.  A hydraulic jack is lifting equipment, not for supporting a vehicle, especially a un-chocked one. A tyre change is really the limit. I'm aware that lots of people work on unsupported vehicles, no chocks etc - doesn't make it right.

Not sure what you're trying to prove so will leave it there. 

I'm not trying to prove anything.

I am just pointing out that there is very little danger of injury to anyone in the situation shown in that picture.

 

[High Jetter]

1 hour ago, GeorgeB said:

I shook my dolomite off stands once while fitting an exhaust. Nearly broke my arm, but I survived.

Was a) the car not securely on the stands, b) the exhaust subject to excessive force, or c) being careful not worth the risk?

[wuvvum]

I have to admit that I'm not great at bothering to get out the axle stands, but I won't put any vital part of my body under a car unless it's supported by at least two jacks (usually a trolley jack used to get it up in the air and then the car's own scissor jack as a backup).  I figure that if I'm unlucky enough for two jacks to let go at exactly the same moment, it was probably my time anyway.

[High Jetter]

Scissor sounds a plan, but if the trolley fails the sudden load could defeat the scissor. OE scissors could be of shockingly poor quality. Stands should be solid

[Tadhg Tiogar]

7 hours ago, SiC said:

Last LED comes on after a week iirc. Basically dropping the charge voltage right down at that point and on full maintenance mode. 

One week?!??

[stuboy]

17 hours ago, Tadhg Tiogar said:

One week?!??

slow learning cells....lol

[brownnova]

The older I get the more cautious I get... when I was in my early 20s I’d be under there with just a Jack... now I get the axle stands out every time!

By the time I’m in my 50s I’ll probably have rigged some kind of chain based support system to the roof of my garage... 

[Angrydicky]

Had a near miss a few years ago with the back of the car off the ground on one axle stand and a trolley jack. Car started to roll backwards and I saw the axle stand start to lean over. Managed to roll over and get clear of the car before it came down.

Never moved so fast! 

Always use two axle stands now if I'm going under the car, and make sure if the back end is off the ground the front wheels are chocked (unless fwd, then I leave it in gear). Got to be careful, it's very very easy to get crushed while working under the car. I find ramps safer, but don't especially like driving cars onto them.

[N19]

I've a set of ramps too and also hate driving on to them. I've been known to jack the car up with a trolley jack then slide the ramps under the front wheels before... 

[Supernaut]

If I'm doing anything more than brake pads the car is always chocked and on a stand or two (depends if I'm working on just one corner or a whole end).

I also lower it onto the stands with the jack, then close the jack again and give the car a good few shoves when it's on the stands to make sure it's secure before going under. If a wheel is off, it's on its side under the sill.

 

Overly cautious? Whatever, it keeps me happy.

 

 

I still have a childhood memory of my dad jacking up a Fiat Ulysse rather high for some reason at the front corner, then the opposite corner rear wheel started sliding across the floor of the barn, towards me! I still have no idea why he was jacking up that corner so bloody high. An entire Ulysse slewing diagonally towards you sharpens the mind rather quickly, though. In the end it only moved a few inches, but still.

[captain_70s]

11 minutes ago, Supernaut said:

I also lower it onto the stands with the jack, then close the jack again and give the car a good few shoves when it's on the stands to make sure it's secure before going under. If a wheel is off, it's on its side under the sill.

That's my procedure as well.

The street outside my house is bowed and slopes away into cobbled gutters, more than once I've been jacking up a car to find it rolling sideways on the jack. Having said that I've never had a car fall off a jack so people who've been under cars without stands for 30 odd years aren't gonna' stop, the odds are they'll not be squashed.

On the other hand I have had a jack fail, not rapidly, but it'd loose pressure over time. If you jacked a car up and went in for a cup of tea it'd be back on the ground when you came back out. I was also under the Acclaim with stands at the jacking points when @GingerNuttz noticed that the car body was slowly sinking as the jacking point rose up through the rotten floor. 😂

[Steve79]

This mornings mot for the aero hot did not fall in its favour

 

[Steve79]

Subframe bushes i figured were probably required due to the movement and clonking over bumps. The lights are bi-xenons so predictably are about 25 per bulb. Which of course i'll need two as the good one will probably blow in short order.

[Cord Fourteener]

News! Day 1 of being able to meet people. 

A friend come round with his diagnostics computer and we found a maf fault in the Passat, it's going to ground. 

Then we found a broken wire in the maf sensor lead. 

It's a good place to look. Going to reconnect the wire and see if there's any improvement. 

Also there's oil blowing out of every seal from the turbo though the inter cooler into the manifold, he says I need to clean it all out and check it's all sealed. 

But I'm happy that we found the broken wire. 

[Sunny Jim]

Liked because it's good to hear you making progress. Good luck with getting it sorted.

[Crispian_J_Hotson]

Well, I made it through a stage 3 interview for a job a actually want. I'm not getting excited, I've been here before in life but if I get the offer then I'm going to need a commuter car to throw my car allowance at. I don't want to use the Jaag because the miles will pile on so I thought...

Get something I want to drive.

Something economical but yet can perform on the daily commute.

Something with satnav and leather.

So here's the plan. I use the Jaag. But then I have my car allowance...

Simple solution is to buy an S type R as well. I need one. 

Like I said, I'm not getting excited...

 

[richardmorris]

Amazing how much debate* a photo provokes. No it’s not something I’d do myself and, and do know that rick supports my cars with multiple axle stands when working and not just looking.  I think it’s down to perceived risk.

 

[richardmorris]

2 hours ago, Tim_E said:

News! Day 1 of being able to meet people. 

A friend come round with his diagnostics computer and we found a maf fault in the Passat, it's going to ground. 

Then we found a broken wire in the maf sensor lead. 

It's a good place to look. Going to reconnect the wire and see if there's any improvement. 

Also there's oil blowing out of every seal from the turbo though the inter cooler into the manifold, he says I need to clean it all out and check it's all sealed. 

But I'm happy that we found the broken wire. 

Mice?

[Cord Fourteener]

2 hours ago, Crispian_J_Hotson said:

Well, I made it through a stage 3 interview for a job a actually want. I'm not getting excited, I've been here before in life but if I get the offer then I'm going to need a commuter car to throw my car allowance at. I don't want to use the Jaag because the miles will pile on so I thought...

Get something I want to drive.

Something economical but yet can perform on the daily commute.

Something with satnav and leather.

So here's the plan. I use the Jaag. But then I have my car allowance...

Simple solution is to buy an S type R as well. I need one. 

Like I said, I'm not getting excited...

 

Dam, I wish I could need a Jag🤣