Six Cylinders Motoring Notes - An open air picnic in mid September!

[Snake Charmer]

5 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

 

We did install 3 electric panel heaters for painting, but I am now afraid to switch them on because of the cost of electricity

The cost bothers me greatly too with electric heaters. I wear thermals, additional layers and a hat with the heaters on the lowest setting gauging the temperature by how cold my feet and nose get. The real test is how big the dew drop gets on my nose, that indicates beer-o-clock! 🥶

[richardmorris]

4 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

10:45am and still minus -0.2° C

Pah! -4 here this morning with freezing fog.

[Ghosty]

2 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

I wish @Ghosty was here as I am afraid to take the head stock apart because in the past I have struggled with run away ball bearings!

Shouldn't be too bad - if it's anything like a normal bicycle, the bearings should be caged and will only fly out and go everywhere if they're knackered. The lower one should drop out with the fork, and the top one will stay in its race. 

[wuvvum]

1 minute ago, Ghosty said:

if it's anything like a normal bicycle

Why would it be anything like a normal bicycle - it's French ffs.

[Mr Pastry]

23 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

Shouldn't be too bad - if it's anything like a normal bicycle, the bearings should be caged and will only fly out and go everywhere if they're knackered. The lower one should drop out with the fork, and the top one will stay in its race. 

IIRC both the top and bottom bearings are caged.  It should be fine. 

[Saabnut]

Minus 12c here last night and expecting similar tonight. It's OK though as I am leaving at 3am to take a trailer load of pigs to market 200 miles away (the things I do to help my neighbour out!).

I have a big oil fired blown air heater in my big shed but my tyre changing shed had a bit of flooding in the storms a couple of weeks ago. Not found any significant damage so far, but it is a bit damp in there. My friend fitted a chinesium diesel heater to his shed and reckons it is brilliant, so I have ordered one myself. It is 5kw, 12v powered so will run off a battery and of course will run on heating oil which I have. My friend reckons it uses about 3litres/day in his shed so with 5kw it is probably the cheapest form of heat available. @Six-cylinderand @Snake CharmerI will document its installation and use on my thread. It may well be an economical solution for you guys.

[Six-cylinder]

8 minutes ago, Saabnut said:

My friend fitted a chinesium diesel heater to his shed and reckons it is brilliant, so I have ordered one myself. It is 5kw, 12v powered so will run off a battery and of course will run on heating oil which I have. My friend reckons it uses about 3litres/day in his shed so with 5kw it is probably the cheapest form of heat available. @Six-cylinderand @Snake CharmerI will document its installation and use on my thread. It may well be an economical solution for you guys.

Which one have you ordered?

[Saabnut]

3 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

Which one have you ordered?

10L Air Diesel Heater 5KW Night fuel Heater LCD Remote for Car Caravan Truck Car | eBay

Was £99.95 when I ordered at the beginning of the week. Should arrive Mon/Tues so will see what it is like

[Snake Charmer]

On 11/12/2022 at 18:06, Saabnut said:

It is 5kw, 12v powered so will run off a battery and of course will run on heating oil which I have. My friend reckons it uses about 3litres/day in his shed so with 5kw it is probably the cheapest form of heat available. @Six-cylinderand @Snake CharmerI will document its installation and use on my thread. It may well be an economical solution for you guys.

Just this week I found a local source for red diesel and started thinking of these heaters again. I always fancied trying one with a view to having one in each workshop but the outlay compared to my electricity usage at the time would not have seen a return for ages. How times change.

[Six-cylinder]

23 minutes ago, Saabnut said:

10L Air Diesel Heater 5KW Night fuel Heater LCD Remote for Car Caravan Truck Car | eBay

Was £99.95 when I ordered at the beginning of the week. Should arrive Mon/Tues so will see what it is like

I like the idea I can use in the house garage now and it can go to the FoD to warm chilly shiters.  

[Six-cylinder]

1 hour ago, Saabnut said:

10L Air Diesel Heater 5KW Night fuel Heater LCD Remote for Car Caravan Truck Car | eBay

Was £99.95 when I ordered at the beginning of the week. Should arrive Mon/Tues so will see what it is like

8kw ordered for £107.59, delivery before 19th Dec

[Zelandeth]

Add a proper power supply, an Afterburner controller and you then have the ability to control it from anywhere in the house from your computer or phone, so you can pre-heat the room before venturing out there.  The Afterburner also had a proper frost-protection mode inbuilt - something I've been quite thankful for when we've had a frost unexpectedly and I've realised that the water heater in the van hadn't been drained yet!

[Six-cylinder]

14 minutes ago, Zelandeth said:

Add a proper power supply, an Afterburner controller and you then have the ability to control it from anywhere in the house from your computer or phone, so you can pre-heat the room before venturing out there.  The Afterburner also had a proper frost-protection mode inbuilt - something I've been quite thankful for when we've had a frost unexpectedly and I've realised that the water heater in the van hadn't been drained yet!

I really wanted the self contained box one, but in spite of lots of listings none were available so I just bought the kit designed to be installed and will find something to mount it on with its tank and pump.

[wuvvum]

I had one of the kit ones in the Trafic van, pretty effective if a tad noisy.  I've got one of the box ones in the Maxus waiting to be installed at some point - they are easier than faffing around with a separate fuel tank, although you still need to drill a hole somewhere to let the exhaust out.

[Six-cylinder]

@jamescarruthers Spotted your 480ES D828CPV in the snow thread for the first time today. In 1987 I worked for the Aylesbury Volvo Dealer and we were sent D873 CPV a red 480ES as a demonstrator by Volvo. It was unallocated to a member of  staff and I often got to take it home.

I liked it so much the next 480ES demonstrator we put on the road, a smoked silver one I persuaded my boss that I could have it as my company car. I was responsible for ordering stock cars for the dealership and kept ordering black 480s, my boss asked why until 1st Aug 1988 when I had a new black 480ES as my company car. As the 1st was a Sunday I took it home on trade plated and was excited to have it.

Feb 1989 and Volvo sent us a 480 Turbo in Artic blue. By default as the staff member who ran the 480 I got it as my company car and absolutely loved it.

Then things changed the dealership could only get one 480 a month and they decided not to run one as a demonstrator as we could easily sell them and I ended up with a 240GL Estate, but that's another story.

Move forward to 2010 and I bought my own white 480ES, I loved it but one of my sons wanted it and I let him have it. I have had pangs of wanting another one but so far have managed resist!

 

 

 

 

 

[hairnet]

no dis 240

480

perv

 

[puddlethumper]

23 hours ago, Saabnut said:

Minus 12c here last night and expecting similar tonight. It's OK though as I am leaving at 3am to take a trailer load of pigs to market 200 miles away (the things I do to help my neighbour out!).

I have a big oil fired blown air heater in my big shed but my tyre changing shed had a bit of flooding in the storms a couple of weeks ago. Not found any significant damage so far, but it is a bit damp in there. My friend fitted a chinesium diesel heater to his shed and reckons it is brilliant, so I have ordered one myself. It is 5kw, 12v powered so will run off a battery and of course will run on heating oil which I have. My friend reckons it uses about 3litres/day in his shed so with 5kw it is probably the cheapest form of heat available. @Six-cylinderand @Snake CharmerI will document its installation and use on my thread. It may well be an economical solution for you guys.

I've got one of those chinese diesel heaters and I can recommend them. The only good thing, I've found, that came out of China.

[jamescarruthers]

49 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

@jamescarruthers Spotted your 480ES D828CPV in the snow thread for the first time today. In 1987 I worked for the Aylesbury Volvo Dealer and we were sent D873 CPV a red 480ES as a demonstrator by Volvo. It was unallocated to a member of  staff and I often got to take it home.

I liked it so much the next 480ES demonstrator we put on the road, a smoked silver one I persuaded my boss that I could have it as my company car. I was responsible for ordering stock cars for the dealership and kept ordering black 480s, my boss asked why until 1st Aug 1988 when I had a new black 480ES as my company car. As the 1st was a Sunday I took it home on trade plated and was excited to have it.

Feb 1989 and Volvo sent us a 480 Turbo in Artic blue. By default as the staff member who ran the 480 I got it as my company car and absolutely loved it.

Then things changed the dealership could only get one 480 a month and they decided not to run one as a demonstrator as we could easily sell them and I ended up with a 240GL Estate, but that's another story.

Move forward to 2010 and I bought my own white 480ES, I loved it but one of my sons wanted it and I let him have it. I have had pangs of wanting another one but so far have managed resist!

 

 

 

 

 

Excellent, thanks for that. I must have spotted it before on here as I have you in my “Launch Car” list!

https://www.volvo-480-europe.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=36281&hilit=Launch
 

It’s great to see your 480s. The blue turbo is particularly beautiful. 

[Snake Charmer]

When the 480 was current our financial director had one and he loved it. One of those cars I have never liked nor disliked but want to like if that makes sense simply because of its individuality. 

[HMC]

Interesting comparison of the launch era 480s. re the body coloured / black plastic bumpers on the @jamescarruthers / @Six-cylinder 480 models respectively- was that a trim Level difference from new or a later change to the spec?

[HMC]

I remember @garycox was selling one ages ago which was really cheap but IIRC there was an issue with the driveshaft or something.

[Six-cylinder]

14 minutes ago, HMC said:

Interesting comparison of the launch era 480s. re the body coloured / black plastic bumpers on the @jamescarruthers / @Six-cylinder 480 models respectively- was that a trim Level difference from new or a later change to the spec?

As far as I remember all the early 480ES except black ones had dull plastic bumpers. Black cars had gloss black bumpers and looked a lot better for it, I think that was part of the reason I choose a black one for myself. All turbos had body coloured bumpers.

My guess I is @jamescarruthers car has had a bumper swap at some time and looks a lot better for it.

1990/91 I worked on the same Volvo dealers separate used car site and was allowed to pick any car out of stock for my personal transport that included these two 480ES's.

[garycox]

It was a rusty front subframe which caused terrible handling; I ended up giving the car to a friend in exchange for some mechanical work on something else and he managed to locate and fit a NOS one.

It was transformed after that and a really nice car to drive. He sold it on and sadly a couple of owners later it was stolen and burnt out.

[D.E]

Yes, the unpainted grey bumpers eventually disappeared, and from that point on all models had shiny painted ones. I am not 100% sure, but I think this happened with model year 1993, when other changes (introduction of the 2.0 engine and S version) were introduced as well. Mine is an early MY 1993 (built in 1992) entry level S, and the painted bumpers are original.

[Floatylight]

I started working for a local hifi dealer in early 1990 as a Saturday job, business was good he had just opened his second shop, he had recently taken delivery of his first brand new car, A 480ES turbo, lovely car. Unfortunately there was one major flaw, the boot of the Volvo could just about fit a boxed pair of bookshelf speakers, a decent pair of floorstanders and the rest of the system had no chance, if lasted another few months before he gave in and p/x for a ex demo 740 estate..

[Six-cylinder]

18 minutes ago, Floatylight said:

I started working for a local hifi dealer in early 1990 as a Saturday job, business was good he had just opened his second shop, he had recently taken delivery of his first brand new car, A 480ES turbo, lovely car. Unfortunately there was one major flaw, the boot of the Volvo could just about fit a boxed pair of bookshelf speakers, a decent pair of floorstanders and the rest of the system had no chance, if lasted another few months before he gave in and p/x for a ex demo 740 estate..

I was much crueller than that, I insisted on taking my 480's on holiday limiting my kids as to how many toys they could take just so I could use the 480!

Yes I worked for a Volvo dealer and could have easily swapped cars with a college for a more roomy car.

[Crackers]

This might be of interest for the future.

@Mrs6C

[Six-cylinder]

4 hours ago, Crackers said:

This might be of interest for the future.

@Mrs6C

Involved with Trackwork at FoD Light Railway

[hairnet]

puttin it down now baws

[hairnet]

christopher you hooligan

@Six-cylinder catching up on the calendar and obvs the gs is there

owned for a few months then hyowj gap then long time till now

why the gap?

offer you couldnt refuse?