Which engine?

[Mr Pastry]

1800 B series is probably the easiest and cheapest and most boring option, cheaper than a Pinto, and maybe a bit lighter than the Triumph.

[hairnet]

18 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said:

It would be terrifying with 95bhp in it, it was only about 60 originally.

@AnthonyG would know all about this in his jaaaag

[hairnet]

did mrs6c give ya head a shake yet

[Six-cylinder]

7 minutes ago, AnthonyG said:

There’s a lot of brown clothing worn in this photo. So, despite the third man wearing what appear to be prototype combat trousers, I’m going with the year of our lord 1983. 

Also, man #4 should have really got a new facial hair style in this era as he looks disturbingly like Peter Sutcliffe. If he’d been driving a Rover P6 around Yorkshire he would have stopped quite a bit. 

I think you are spot on with 1983ish.

It is me on the left, then my dad, then my brother, last was my brothers friend.

My brothers friend drove a brand new Golf GTi.

[Six-cylinder]

1 minute ago, hairnet said:

did mrs6c give ya head a shake yet

I have have been shown a yellow card!

[AnthonyG]

Hey, it’s not a red one!

Yet.

[Six-cylinder]

1 minute ago, AnthonyG said:

Hey, it’s not a red one!

Yet.

I would have got sent off if I had bought it!

[Noel Tidybeard]

1 hour ago, Lankytim said:

The answer is always 2l pinto and Sierra box.

what do you use to anchor a boat?

[Spiny Norman]

Puretech 1.2.
Volvo B series. Nice and torquey, simple, reliable, happy on carbs or injection.
 

[LightBulbFun]

3 hours ago, Mr Pastry said:

1800 B series is probably the easiest and cheapest and most boring option, cheaper than a Pinto, and maybe a bit lighter than the Triumph.

left field option, import a 2.4L Blue streak 6 cylinder from Australia? give it that unique twist/personal touch  

although I realise (upon some quick wikipedia-ing) that this is a 4 cylinder car, so perhaps it might be too long to fit?

 

maybe a 6 cylinder motorbike engine, retuned for a bit more low down power/grunt if possible? 

[somewhatfoolish]

Looking at pics of the engine compartment there's little enough room for the original 4 pot, never mind any straight 6s. Maybe a V6 of some kind? 

[LightBulbFun]

49 minutes ago, somewhatfoolish said:

Looking at pics of the engine compartment there's little enough room for the original 4 pot, never mind any straight 6s. Maybe a V6 of some kind? 

6 Villiers 11E engines Allen-Millyard'ed together?  if you fit each one with a 250cc big bore kit, that gets you exactly 1500cc of straight 6, 2 stroke goodness

(its either that or glue a couple Wartburg/DKW/Saab engines together)

[Rustybullethole]

Although lacking a few pots the dohc 8 valve unit in my old transit was a good lump. Massive upgrade to the pinto powered one I had. Silent as a fish whilst torquey and would crack a ton. Not that I imagine the last is high on the list. 

Am going to note my massive restraint by not saying chuck a banana in it.

For what its worth I fully endorse this old jalopy/new* tech scenario. 

[Spottedlaurel]

Datsun/Nissan L-Series, single carb 2.0 or 2.4 'six' would be adequate although 2.6 and 2.8 plus fuel injection and twin carb versions are available. 5-speed 'boxes were fitted to some. They used them in those Beauford (?) kit cars, often used for wedding hire. I have the 2.4 in my Laurel, has an old-fashioned feel.

[artdjones]

I don't want to be a bore, but I think these cars have the same engine as a Standard Flying 14. If so, the Standard club stock engine components at reasonable prices, as long as you're willing to take out a club subscription. And the crank bearings are shells, so no expensive white metal work needed. So, unless the engine attention needed warning means that there's a big lump out of the water jacket it would be better to spend the couple of thousand an engine swap will cost on the original engine. Also preserving the car's originality and value.

[tooSavvy]

^ ^ ^ ..... No one, to their credit, has mentioned TE$√A 😉

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[Westbay]

8 hours ago, Mr Pastry said:

1800 B series is probably the easiest and cheapest and most boring option, cheaper than a Pinto, and maybe a bit lighter than the Triumph.

...with the overdrive gearbox ...

[Westbay]

23 minutes ago, artdjones said:

I don't want to be a bore, but I think these cars have the same engine as a Standard Flying 14. If so, the Standard club stock engine components at reasonable prices, as long as you're willing to take out a club subscription. And the crank bearings are shells, so no expensive white metal work needed. So, unless the engine attention needed warning means that there's a big lump out of the water jacket it would be better to spend the couple of thousand an engine swap will cost on the original engine. Also preserving the car's originality and value.

Not really 'in the spirit' of things AS but does make sense ... sadly

[Saabnut]

I believe you have a RWD Vauxhall or two lieing about. Take a box out of one of them, mate to a Saab B234 engine and play away! Easily tuned to 300bhp+, reliable and economical 2.3 litre 4 pot with a turbo for the traffic light grand prix.

I will leave now........

[Rust Collector]

9 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

2000cc a bit underpowered at 95 bhp

I have a 5.4 litre AMG V8 sat here which I don’t know what to do with, that should be about 360hp which would get you moving along.

There’s a spare 2.1 litre XUD here as well. That would struggle to keep up with a glacier, although it could melt it with the amount of clag it will throw out.

[chaseracer]

1.8 Kettle?

[Stinkwheel]

9 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

But I would hate that, I remember selling a young Maestro Diesel and the dash jumped up and down. 

TADTS

[wuvvum]

9 hours ago, Mr Pastry said:

It would be terrifying with 95bhp in it, it was only about 60 originally.

The 3.5-litre Jag, which was on similar underpinnings, had 125bhp (and a truckload of torque) and that managed OK.

[twosmoke300]

2.3 .ford galaxy / transit ? But I think the prices of these are being pushed up by the banger boys . 
A transit engine and box from a dual fuel transit would be just the ticket tho I reckon . 
Plenty of torque for a petrol and pretty low gearing if you chose the right transit box . 
 

Can’t think of any more petrol big van engines off hand but I reckon they would be a good match . Not silly revvy 

[cort1977]

BMW M52 out of an E36/E39. Aluminium block for lightness, auto gearbox models still not that expensive.

 

[artdjones]

53 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

The 3.5-litre Jag, which was on similar underpinnings, had 125bhp (and a truckload of torque) and that managed OK.

I'll bet the brakes were a bit bigger, though.

[Talbot]

Sticking with the Mercedes theme, a C180/C200 non-kompressor can be bought with a rotten body for peanuts these days. Not very powerful, but very smooth.  Smaller engine than the M104 I suggested above, and I believe some models are all aluminium.

Also once the engine is out, the rest will break to mercedes lickers and the shell will scrap for probably what the car was bought for.

[Crackers]

Another vote for IS200 2.0 inline 6. Very compact, they look lost in the IS engine bay. Also extremely smooth. 

150bhp might be a bit much though, and they aren't that torquey. 

[MorrisItalSLX]

[Volksy]

I have the 3.0 M103 six fitted in my W126.

They're quite a nice engine (mine is the 188bhp) and doesn't struggle to shift the car. It's got a 4 speed Autobox, however in the W126 they have quite a low geared rear axle so it's doing 3000prm at 75mph. Downside with these is they generally come with Bosch KE Jet, There's no alternative inlet manifold that I'm aware of. 

If you're considering one, I can take some measurements to see if it will fit.