Peugeot 309 rescue thread. Moving on.

[DoctorRetro]

Found these, but they're in Ashford, Kent. Anyone near there?

 

[Rusty_Rocket]

Great car, Doc and that powder blue looks so right on mid 80s Pugs.

I have the same car, but with two more doors!

45k from new but going very mouldy.

We can do a group test when they're both on the road!

[Fumbler]

40 minutes ago, DoctorRetro said:

It's definitely looking like a much bigger project that I first imagined, so I'll need loads of encouragement and support of you lot to keep my head up. 

My first view of it being in the pissing rain with 2 flat tyres doesn't help the mood, will see what it's like once this weather improves.

I think a fuel system drain and new fuel in may help the smokiness, it was like a cold start diesel locomotive 😳

 

That sounds like old fuel but it could also be because of the wet weather and using the choke. The BX this morning was especially smoky. Might be a shout siphoning it into the Chevy as that'll run it no problem

I'm near Ashford but I'm at college all week in Somerset. If you don't require them I might be able to get them next weekend and can hold onto them for a while. That being said, might @stuboybe able to lend a hand?

[DoctorRetro]

Just now, Fumbler said:

That sounds like old fuel but it could also be because of the wet weather and using the choke. The BX this morning was especially smoky. Might be a shout siphoning it into the Chevy as that'll run it no problem

I'm near Ashford but I'm at college all week in Somerset. Might @stuboybe able to lend a hand?

Chevy's gone.

I think @rob88h is going to help with the wheels.

 

 

[Scruffy Bodger]

I've bought some newer tyres and wheels for my 405 so I'll have a couple of steels going spare with Michelins fitted if you're interested? I think  they're 19 years old but plenty of tread and not perished or cracked. I just wanted newer ones as my driving can be a bit* spirited sometimes.

[Dick Longbridge]

39 minutes ago, DoctorRetro said:

It's definitely looking like a much bigger project that I first imagined, so I'll need loads of encouragement and support of you lot to keep my head up. 

My first view of it being in the pissing rain with 2 flat tyres doesn't help the mood, will see what it's like once this weather improves.

I think a fuel system drain and new fuel in may help the smokiness, it was like a cold start diesel locomotive 😳

 

Ultimately, you've saved it from being fragged. If you run out of steam or think you've bitten off more than you can chew, I get the impression that there's enough interest on here for someone else to continue recommissioning the old girl. 

[Dr_Slow]

Nice one!

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[DoctorRetro]

11 minutes ago, Dr_Slow said:

Nice one!

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Ha ha, I'm like that on people's threads - what to say without sounding condescending. 

Like Will Smith in Hancock. "Good job" 👍

[rob88h]

1 hour ago, DoctorRetro said:

I think @rob88h is going to help with the wheels.

Sorted 👍. Glad I can help! I only had a few laps left of pacing around in my living room before I’d have arranged to get this 309 to mine. You’ve saved me adding another distraction to my other 3 slow progress project cars!

[DoctorRetro]

1 minute ago, rob88h said:

Sorted 👍. Glad I can help! I only had a few laps left of pacing around in my living room before I’d have arranged to get this 309 to mine. You’ve saved me adding another distraction to my other 3 slow progress project cars!

You're welcome to pop over and have a look/poke around it anytime

[Macscrooge]

I think the colour is Wedgewood Blue. My dad had a 205 XLD in the same colour. 

[adw1977]

9 minutes ago, Macscrooge said:

I think the colour is Wedgewood Blue. My dad had a 205 XLD in the same colour. 

I think you're right.

[Zelandeth]

Interesting that Ford too had a Wedgewood Blue around the same time (our Sierra on a H plate was in that colour, looked ace with the red pinstripe on the rubbing strips) but it was far more vivid.

Random image from Worth point via Google.

What engine is that?  Don't immediately recognise it by sight.

[junkyarddog]

1 hour ago, Macscrooge said:

I think the colour is Wedgewood Blue. My dad had a 205 XLD in the same colour. 

I still do.

[Rusty_Rocket]

12 minutes ago, Zelandeth said:

What engine is that?  Don't immediately recognise it by sight.

It's a Simca engine and dates from the early 1960s, not the 'suitcase' engine with the gearbox in the sump.

They are very rugged and reliable, but normally quite, um, 'vocal'!

[Fumbler]

3 minutes ago, Rusty_Rocket said:

It's a Simca engine and dates from the early 1960s, not the 'suitcase' engine with the gearbox in the sump.

They are very rugged and reliable, but normally quite, um, 'vocal'!

Everyday's a schoolday
 

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• XE, GE: 1118cc E1A or 1294cc G1A OHV Simca engine, X with three doors and G with five doors. The 1118 cc engine came with a four speed gearbox, whilst the 1294 cc came with a five speed gearbox. Standard equipment was sparse, featuring a rear bench seat, heated rear window, small wheel centre wheel covers, as well as a flick wipe facility. Options included a rear wash/wipe, side bump strips on the doors, and a pop up sunroof.

Many special editions were based on the X/GE, such as the Sport model, which came with a spoiler and side decals; and also the Sunseeker model, which came with a pop up sunroof, and side decals. In some markets a diesel E model was also available, using the 1905 cc XUD engine. All diesel models carry the D suffix on the model badge (XLD, GLD).

The Special Equipment model available in the United Kingdom in 1989 also added a pop up sunroof and a rear wash/wipe to the standard equipment list. The E designation was replaced by the Style designation, which began as a special edition in 1987, but became a part of the range from 1988, to denote the base model, in line with other contemporary Peugeot models of the time (e.g. the Peugeot 205 Style and the Peugeot 405 Style). The Style was also available with the 1124 cc and 1360 cc TU and 1905 cc XUD (Style D) engines, all with five speed gearboxes, after the Simca units were phased out.

 

[TrabbieRonnie]

Well done Doc, watching with interest. 

Being your neighbour would be like living in a small-but-perfectly-formed car show!

Great stuff 👍

 

[Zelandeth]

5 minutes ago, Fumbler said:

Everyday's a schoolday
 

 

5 hours ago, DoctorRetro said:

 

 

 

 

Yep, definitely different to the one in the BX!

Interested to see some more photos of it, and hopefully see it one day.  Always had a soft spot for PSA stuff from this era, though have to confess to knowing little about the Peugeot side.  Most folks I knew back when these cars were common had Citroens.  Aside from the one Horizon anyway...and back then I knew nothing of there being a connection between Chrysler and Citroen.

Only been in one 309 that I was looking at buying a few years back.  Was a very late one and I liked it, was just a bit too rusty for me.  Had a supremely comfortable ride and lovely seats.

[sierraman]

For the love of god unless it’s for shunting round whilst you weld it up don’t fit some 20 year old tyres.

[CaptainBoom]

Top work sir!  Postives vibes and encouragement coming your way.  The kids and I want to see this beast live (they both love the colour, I like the mechanicals).

 

 

[JJ0063]

I can’t find any photos but me and @Arthur Foxhakehave fond* memories of these. 
 

*fond for me, fond for mrs foxhake, not so fond for mr foxhake I recall.

[DoctorRetro]

13 minutes ago, sierraman said:

For the love of god unless it’s for shunting round whilst you weld it up don’t fit some 20 year old tyres.

No shit Sherlock 😜

It's going to be a long drawn out process, so I'd rather it at least rolls and looks like a presentable car, so as not to upset any potential Karen's. 😁

 

 

 

 

[Scruffy Bodger]

1 hour ago, sierraman said:

For the love of god unless it’s for shunting round whilst you weld it up don’t fit some 20 year old tyres.

I've done about 7K miles on the ones I'm offering for free, enough grip on them to be driving about in conditions like that without a problem. I had no idea they were that old till I looked at the date code a few months back.

[GeordieInExile]

Question for Peugeot lickers.

How come the 309s all had poverty spec grey bumpers, including the GTi, whereas a good number of the 205s came with painted ones...?

 

[Jimbob McGregor]

16 minutes ago, GeordieInExile said:

Question for Peugeot lickers.

How come the 309s all had poverty spec grey bumpers, including the GTi, whereas a good number of the 205s came with painted ones...?

 

Would that be because the 309 had one-piece plastic mouldings whereas the 205 had a skinny top section (always grey plastic) with a much thinner valance beneath, both front and rear and these were generally body colour?

[GeordieInExile]

7 minutes ago, Jimbob McGregor said:

Would that be because the 309 had one-piece plastic mouldings whereas the 205 had a skinny top section (always grey plastic) with a much thinner valance beneath, both front and rear and these were generally body colour?

It wasn't always grey plastic though, I've seen CJ models where the bumper is all body colour...

[SmokinWaffle]

7 hours ago, DoctorRetro said:

Found these, but they're in Ashford, Kent. Anyone near there?

 

I know people very close to there if it you want them?

Didn't know you'd got this - I'm glad you have - looking forward to see what you do with it!

[Jimbob McGregor]

18 minutes ago, GeordieInExile said:

It wasn't always grey plastic though, I've seen CJ models where the bumper is all body colour...

Fair comment - CJ and Lacoste! I haven’t seen any others though.

[Arthur Foxhake]

9 hours ago, JJ0063 said:

I can’t find any photos but me and @Arthur Foxhakehave fond* memories of these. 
 

*fond for me, fond for mrs foxhake, not so fond for mr foxhake I recall.

I have a pic of it somewhere, hanging off the end of a telehandler by a rope, on its way to be squashed.

That's how I like to remember it.

 

Mr Fish was going to engine swap it, the engine in it was knackered. He started stripping it down and found shitloads of rust underneath, so he fragged it.

[Vantman]

15 hours ago, DoctorRetro said:

Found these, but they're in Ashford, Kent. Anyone near there?

 

I live in Ashford if you need these @DoctorRetro.