The grumpy thread

[brownnova]

8 hours ago, RobT said:

Unless it's some weapons grade that you really want, it doesn't sound worth bothering with tbh.

Not really no, probably a 6/10 on the Shite scale. Maybe a 6.5... 

7 hours ago, loserone said:

I'd stick it out and not add a messing around buyer to her problems.

And this is the overwhelming feeling I have too. Poor girl has been messed about enough. But I hope that doesn’t lead us to buy it even if it’s s POS! 

Ive left the ball in her court for now. I’ve said to message me when the garage are done with it. 

Annoying as I was hoping we’d have it for the Cannock run today. Looks like we’re going in the Saab then! 

[chaseracer]

But which one...? ?

[brownnova]

32 minutes ago, chaseracer said:

But which one...? ?

Probably the one that doesn’t look like it once met Joe Calzaghe in a dark alley way and called him a tosser. Much as I quite fancy trying the auto one (with Cruise control) over a long distance. It’s only done local trips what with it’s rather mangled door... 

[SiC]

2 hours ago, paulplom said:

i was talking to my joiner/plasterer mate yesterday. He's quite a car nut. He's pcp'd cars for a few years now and after handing a couple back, swapping them and other bad decisions he's now paying £400 a month for a 2013 gashqai. It's the old shape as well. Just under 3 years to go as well although he can hand it back half way through with more penalties....

Fuck that for a laugh.

How has he managed that? With 30seconds of googling, there appears to be lease deals for brand spanking new ones at under 200 quid pcm

https://www.selectcarleasing.co.uk/car-leasing/nissan/qashqai/hatchback/13-dig-t-tekna-5dr/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs3rBRCdARIsADe1pfSdD3RCPM3olO9GxKkf6_QV1rCgEy9baLiOL_d8CAq66_3ozZTEKJ0aAu9uEALw_wcB

[loserone]

Not finishing the lease and pushing the penalties onto the next lease I guess?

[cort16]

You can't get negative equity on PCP's unless you finish the term early, which is what he must have been doing . Daft for doing it and the garage is daft for letting him do it.

[HH-R]

I wish the Beeb would shove Peaky Blinders up their arse, the fucking thing is advertised on a constant loop on the radio.

[purplebargeken]

Hope you tell them exactly what a shower of cunts they are Mo.

Good news re: English test  

[dozeydustman]

I've had little sleep since 2am this morning. Indigestibles, nausea, rampant gutsache and needing close proximity to the lav has left me feeling very grumpy indeed, especially as nobody else is under the weather.

Can only assume food reaction or bin germs.

[dozeydustman]

3 hours ago, dozeydustman said:

I've had little sleep since 2am this morning. Indigestibles, nausea, rampant gutsache and needing close proximity to the lav has left me feeling very grumpy indeed, especially as nobody else is under the weather.

Can only assume food reaction or bin germs.

Have found out possible cause. In April I had some blood tests done (with much stress on my part) as I'd been having reactions to certain foods including anaphylaxis (which is not pleasant). I have latex allergy and wheat allergy. Cut a lot of the wheat based stuff out of my diet, but yesterday I made an apple pie. Turns out the free-from flour (and bread) I've been eating contains tapioca starch.

Doing some rudimentary internets it would appear that if you suffer with latex allergies, you shouldn't eat tapioca.

FFS so that's now a wheat substitute added to my ever growing list of food that makes me ill, which is proper annoying as a lot of the things on the list were some of my favourites prior to discovering what made me ill.

[DoctorRetro]

Had it with cars. 

I finally found 'the one' that I was going to stick with, and the head gasket is kaput. 

I give up.

 

 

[Garythesnail]

If the rest of the car is good, just fix the head gasket, no?

Did that to my son's VVC engined kettle after the timing belt decided it didn't like teeth. Aside from the *hilarity of the internal little bits of VVC mechanism hitting the floor, not such a bad job.

[BorniteIdentity]

25 minutes ago, TheDoctor said:

Had it with cars. 

I finally found 'the one' that I was going to stick with, and the head gasket is kaput. 

I give up.

 

 

There is a rumour - unsubstantiated at this stage - that you can (wait for this) FIX them. IKR. Madness.

Seriously, if it’s the right car in the right spec then just fix it. It’ll likely never need doing again. 

I try to look at cars through the same prism as houses. If your roof leaks, you don’t fucking bulldoze it. Maintenance is key, as is long term ownership - and expect the odd unexpected bill. Other than that, enjoy.

I’m about to have my 165 year old house underpinned and I don’t even bloody live in it. 

If you really love something, do the right thing. 

I can put you onto a brilliant mobile Rover man who’ll have it done for £300 on your driveway. 

[DoctorRetro]

3 minutes ago, Garythesnail said:

If the rest of the car is good, just fix the head gasket, no?

Did that to my son's VVC engined kettle after the timing belt decided it didn't like teeth. Aside from the *hilarity of the internal little bits of VVC mechanism hitting the floor, not such a bad job.

 

3 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

There is a rumour - unsubstantiated at this stage - that you can (wait for this) FIX them. IKR. Madness.

Seriously, if it’s the right car in the right spec then just fix it. It’ll likely never need doing again. 

I try to look at cars through the same prism as houses. If your roof leaks, you don’t fucking bulldoze it. Maintenance is key, as is long term ownership - and expect the odd unexpected bill. Other than that, enjoy.

I’m about to have my 165 year old house underpinned and I don’t even bloody live in it. 

If you really love something, do the right thing. 

I can put you onto a brilliant mobile Rover man who’ll have it done for £300 on your driveway. 

If your 120k house was going to cost you 80k to fix the roof, you'd be a little upset though.

I'll reassess the situation at the end of the month. Seems like I'm destined not to get this divorce done. 

 

[DoctorRetro]

5 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

I can put you onto a brilliant mobile Rover man who’ll have it done for £300 on your driveway. 

It's a Honda ?

Plus I don't have 300 quid. Or a driveway for that matter. 

I'll probably park it in the corner until I can get round to sorting it out. It would pay to do the cambelt too at the same time I guess. 

[Garythesnail]

53 minutes ago, TheDoctor said:

It's a Honda ?

 

That's bad luck.

The point still stands, though. Fix it if all else is good about it. Not having he money at present is a bummer though but spending on the repair is infinitely better than spending the same money on replacement car that's an unknown quantity - although you'd get scrap money for the dead one and may get really lucky.

[BorniteIdentity]

1 hour ago, TheDoctor said:

 

If your 120k house was going to cost you 80k to fix the roof, you'd be a little upset though.

I'll reassess the situation at the end of the month. Seems like I'm destined not to get this divorce done. 

 

If you’re trying to apply even the feintest suggestion of mathematics and logic to shit old cars, I fear you will always lose. 

You’ve bought something with an intended life span of 12 years at 25 years old. It’s literally a roll of the dice every time you buy one.

Keep rollin’. Makes no odds. It was just a reminder of the alternative. I guess if you’ve no money for repairs then you’ve no money to buy anything else? If you get stuck for a car let me know. 

[DoctorRetro]

16 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

If you’re trying to apply even the feintest suggestion of mathematics and logic to shit old cars, I fear you will always lose. 

You’ve bought something with an intended life span of 12 years at 25 years old. It’s literally a roll of the dice every time you buy one.

Keep rollin’. Makes no odds. It was just a reminder of the alternative. I guess if you’ve no money for repairs then you’ve no money to buy anything else? If you get stuck for a car let me know. 

Yep. Feel like I'm forever losing the roll though. 

Starting to lose the will to keep battling tbh. Sick of battling money-wise, depression/anxiety-wise, car-wise. 

At least I have life insurance through work ??

[SiC]

Every single car I've bought second hand has needed something, even ones that are supposed to be fully working. TT I bought off a mate? Thermostat, door lock and then caliper siezed - he did 6k fault free miles before hand. My parents A4? Thermostat too and fuel rail control valve. My Grandads Laguna? Battery, wipers, tyres and appears thermostat (I have a habit of buying cars with broken thermostats...). MGB? Yeah there's a thread on that. Dolomite Sprint? Clutch slave and possibly clutch now too (+welding). Civic mk8? Mirror folding control unit, fog light shattered and 8 months later the clutch - car was only 4 years old at the time. Boxster? Currently sitting at needing coil packs, top mounts and coolant reservoir. Even my first car, a brand new Clio II, needed to go back to the dealer in the first week as the intermittent wiper stopped working!

I could go on but my point is, any car you will buy can potentially have a problem needing fixing soon after buying it. They're complicated machines with many moving parts, so it's unsurprising really. 

[eddyramrod]

23 hours ago, TheDoctor said:

Yep. Feel like I'm forever losing the roll though. 

Starting to lose the will to keep battling tbh. Sick of battling money-wise, depression/anxiety-wise, car-wise. 

At least I have life insurance through work ??

That's so familiar!  (Except the life insurance)    You've just described my life story there.  I'm 60 now and I keep going, because, well, I don't fancy the alternative.  I don't keep going because I'm some kind of hero, or mega-brave, or noble, or anything like that.  I keep going because at any time, like tomorrow morning, I might have a right good time, and if I wasn't here I'd have missed that.  It might not be tomorrow.  It might be next week, next month, next year, but it'll be worth the wait, whatever it is.

[paulplom]

22 hours ago, paulplom said:

i was talking to my joiner/plasterer mate yesterday. He's quite a car nut. He's pcp'd cars for a few years now and after handing a couple back, swapping them and other bad decisions he's now paying £400 a month for a 2013 gashqai. It's the old shape as well. Just under 3 years to go as well although he can hand it back half way through with more penalties....

Fuck that for a laugh.

And for 2 of his months payments I've just bought a well sorted saab. Lunacy at it's finest.

[paulplom]

20 hours ago, SiC said:

How has he managed that? With 30seconds of googling, there appears to be lease deals for brand spanking new ones at under 200 quid pcm

https://www.selectcarleasing.co.uk/car-leasing/nissan/qashqai/hatchback/13-dig-t-tekna-5dr/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs3rBRCdARIsADe1pfSdD3RCPM3olO9GxKkf6_QV1rCgEy9baLiOL_d8CAq66_3ozZTEKJ0aAu9uEALw_wcB

They kept bolting on finance for handing back early, damage, scratches etc. They were also adding the negative equity on.

[brownnova]

5 hours ago, paulplom said:

They kept bolting on finance for handing back early, damage, scratches etc. They were also adding the negative equity on.

This is how PCPs can become so risky, I bought two cars on finance a few years back, first one wiped its face (with a bit of negotiating with the salesman) but the second I had to pay BMW £750 to take it off my hands. That hurt. They kept suggesting I added the negative equity to something else. I vowed never to do a PCP again and bought a £600 Saab. 

[BorniteIdentity]

13 hours ago, TheDoctor said:

 

If your 120k house was going to cost you 80k to fix the roof, you'd be a little upset though.

I'll reassess the situation at the end of the month. Seems like I'm destined not to get this divorce done. 

 

I should also add that I’ve, so far this year, spent circa £1000 on my Avensis which is worth about £250. It’s rusty, leggy (253k) but trusty and lovely. I could never find another that bought my son back from hospital, took us on holiday and never let me down. 

I totally understand the money aspect. But we both know that you’ll only spend more on a different car - rolling the dice again. 

Just a thought dude. Whatever you do, don’t let it grind you down. It can feel personal, but it really isn’t. It’s a machine that’s outlived all expectation. 

[cort16]

19 minutes ago, brownnova said:

This is how PCPs can become so risky, I bought two cars on finance a few years back, first one wiped its face (with a bit of negotiating with the salesman) but the second I had to pay BMW £750 to take it off my hands. That hurt. They kept suggesting I added the negative equity to something else. I vowed never to do a PCP again and bought a £600 Saab. 

That shouldn’t be the case unless you want to settle early, it’s damaged or you go over the mileage . The whole point of pcp is the car has a gaurenteed future value so at the end you either give the car back or you get a little positive equity. 

 

[brownnova]

19 minutes ago, cort16 said:

That shouldn’t be the case unless you want to settle early, it’s damaged or you go over the mileage . The whole point of pcp is the car has a gaurenteed future value so at the end you either give the car back or you get a little positive equity. 

 

I was well over the mileage and wanted to settle early. The mileage penalty should’ve been around £1500 but as I sold it to them it was less. Robbing bastards! 

[dozeydustman]

12 hours ago, SiC said:

Every single car I've bought second hand has needed something, even ones that are supposed to be fully working. TT I bought off a mate? Thermostat, door lock and then caliper siezed - he did 6k fault free miles before hand. My parents A4? Thermostat too and fuel rail control valve. My Grandads Laguna? Battery, wipers, tyres and appears thermostat (I have a habit of buying cars with broken thermostats...). MGB? Yeah there's a thread on that. Dolomite Sprint? Clutch slave and possibly clutch now too (+welding). Civic mk8? Mirror folding control unit, fog light shattered and 8 months later the clutch - car was only 4 years old at the time. Boxster? Currently sitting at needing coil packs, top mounts and coolant reservoir. Even my first car, a brand new Clio II, needed to go back to the dealer in the first week as the intermittent wiper stopped working!

I could go on but my point is, any car you will buy can potentially have a problem needing fixing soon after buying it. They're complicated machines with many moving parts, so it's unsurprising really. 

@TheDoctor this in droves.

I commented on your Doctorin' the... Fred last night - you can get the bits cheapish to do this if you shop around and can put by a few bob a week and temporarily declare the car as SORN. Head gaskets aren't the worst job to do - remove a belt, remove the manifolds and lift the head. If it's not overheated you won't have the potential cost of a skim.

You could get yourself another car for pence and repeat the process of having things go wrong.

19 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

I should also add that I’ve, so far this year, spent circa £1000 on my Avensis which is worth about £250.

Again this, a classic example of better the devil you know. I did the same with the Toyota and the Saab this year, spent more than their current market value to keep them running and road legal, especially after a cam belt failure and massive MoT fail respectively I thought we'd have had 2 scrappers to deal with.

You seem to like R8 Rovers, why not get this otherwise very tidy example back to full health? I think the investment in a head gasket and cam belt will pay you back in droves. You've put it up 4 sell/roffle with a suspected head gasket at £400(?), I think you'll only get bridge money with it in this state.

 

[chaseracer]

I'm currently putting money into the very familiar Blingo to keep it viable; it remains taxed, insured, ticketed and (mostly) ready to go.  Why, when I have the Lexus as a daily?

Because the Zanussi goes with the job and, current circumstances being as they are, that could come to an end at any time.

[ruffgeezer]

I should not have sold my Datsun, I am having real regrets about it and am unlikely to be able to afford another cool 70s estate.

[EssDeeWon]

21 hours ago, TheDoctor said:

Had it with cars. 

I finally found 'the one' that I was going to stick with, and the head gasket is kaput. 

I give up.

 

 

What are the symptoms of this HGF Doc? Have you had it tested?