The grumpy thread

[fiatdaft]

So it's illegal to have front fogs on in normal conditions but it's fine to have one on going round corners. Someone about five years ago thought that was a good idea and now every one else has to have it just because.

 

And as mentioned above, people driving around in twighlight with their drl's on. They are far worse than any fog light.

 

 

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[eddyramrod]

No, I'm going to take issue with that.

 

That's a "cornering light."  Huggy has them.  Use the indicators when you have your headlights on and the appropriate cornering light comes on, at a relatively sensible level, pointing to the side you are turning to, to light up hazards like kerbs or frightened kittens.  That's no relation whatsoever to the blazing forward-facing searchlights that cars have now.  I've never yet found a way to have my cornering lights on without using my indicators, which effectively commits me to make the turn; certainly not both at once and they never face forward!

 

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[fordperv]

You want to try riding a bike. I always use bike paths etc but the dazzle from the opposite direction means you have to stop sometimes.

On the opposite end of the scale what's the deal with these blooming cyclists with a lamp or lamps on the front of the bicycle 25000 times brighter than the sun aimed incorrectly just so they blind drivers and to top it they set them on flash mode

 

I wish there was a thread in the main section where I could have a moan

[Yoss]

No, I'm going to take issue with that.

 

That's a "cornering light."  Huggy has them.  Use the indicators when you have your headlights on and the appropriate cornering light comes on, at a relatively sensible level, pointing to the side you are turning to, to light up hazards like kerbs or frightened kittens.  That's no relation whatsoever to the blazing forward-facing searchlights that cars have now.  I've never yet found a way to have my cornering lights on without using my indicators, which effectively commits me to make the turn; certainly not both at once and they never face forward!

 

[/Lecture]

You sir are excepted. I just feel these modern ones are a fashion statement (My car is higher spec than yours). It's not like they use a different light or they swivel or owt, it's just a front fog light which I'm not allowed to have on in my car (not that I would anyway). I can't imagine they make much difference with modern headlights anyway.

[eddyramrod]

Yoss, I agree with you.  And thank you for the exemption!  It wasn't what I came for but never mind... I just didn't want what I see as a genuine valid safety feature (cornering lights) becoming associated with the tool of the brain donor (front fogs).  One of my cars has front fogs (the Blob); two (Blob and Giffer) and my work van have rears.  I hardly ever use them, because even at night, visibility is rarely impaired enough to justify it.  Or at least that was the case until people started fitting these high-powered bulbs, then DRLs, and all without even trying to see they were properly aimed.

 

And there is the key phrase. 

[Yoss]

Fair point, well made.

[Cavcraft]

I was run over earlier this morning by a snow plough.

"Bastard", I said, through gritted teeth.

[tooSavvy]

I was run over earlier this morning by a snow plough.

"Bastard", I said, through gritted teeth.

.... following Govt. advice: 'Wear something White at Night'.

 

 

TS

[Twiggy]

It`s illegal to use front fog lights unless the visibility is less than 100 metres, or in falling snow. At the last count, the fine was £30. I amuse myself when out driving at night by counting the number of morons with their fog lights on. Yesterday evening I counted 7 between North Baddesley and Romsey, a distance of 4.5 miles. Had the law been able to catch them that would have raised £210. Exposing my monumental ignorance has the law been changed with respect to the power of headlamps ? It used to be 45 watts low beam and 55 watts high beam. If not, then the majority of new vehicles are committing an offence under construction and use regulations.

[brownnova]

Ladies and gentlemen I will confess....

 

I am a foglight wanker.

 

I turn them on regularly. On twisty country roads it adds visibility and aids me in driving faster through the corners (the Saabs headlights are crap) and in the Mazda they're yellow so look cool.

 

I count how many condescending Wazzocks flash their lights at me and smile inwardly that something so small which doesnt even affect them can wind someone I don't even know up so much.

 

As for dazzling mine don't they're far too old for that.

 

Sorry folks I won't be changing neither.

[somewhatfoolish]

Ear had been blocked for almost two weeks and can’t get to the doctors until Jan 3rd. The ringing and hissing is really pissing me off.

Take really hot showers, as hot as you can stand; direct the water into the offending lughole and then let it drain repeatedly. I've had waxed up ears before and never had this fail to shift it, the wax is mobilised by the water, natural processes take care of the rest and it falls out.

[fiatdaft]

Front ones don’t really bother me, it’s the rears that do.

 

 

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[cms206]

We have no days off; this year I've even got a bus out on Christmas Day. Wee man's first Christmas this year so managed to sort shifts out as best I could before the sodding railway got involved.

 

Today was supposed to be a nice easy 1449-1755 stint, now it is 1449-2332 with three hours off in the middle, plus a bonus 5am start on the 27th because they "forgot" they needed a load of early standbys on the 27th so the drivers out on Boxing Day can't do the early shifts the day after. Grrr.

 

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[Daviemck2006]

Ok I also confess to being a fog light wanker. My reason is I drive a xantia. Never use the rears though.

 

 

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[Eddie Honda]

At the last count, the fine was £30.

You really need to count more often.

 

My guess is like no seatbelt and no MoT fines they are probably £100 now.

[eddyramrod]

Just told relatives that we're not leaving the house and got the emotional blackmail thing, fuck it.

You're injured.  Have they no sympathy?  Two can do emotional blackmail you know!  You can't go out, you're in pain, can't possibly drive, lay it on!  They would!  If they really want to be with you let them come to you for a change.  If they don't show up, enjoy the peace, then hit them with more EB in the New Year... "where the fuck were you when we needed you at Christmas?" sort of thing.

 

Meanwhile, relax, take the painkillers, get your feet up with a good book and a cup of coffee.  It'll all pass, you'll be fine.

 

Condolences on your loss too.  I know from experience it's no fun.  I understand about the visiting, btw.

[Guest Hooli]

Front ones don’t really bother me, it’s the rears that do.

 

 

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Same for me. Properly adjusted front fogs can't dazzle by design.

 

Rears put on in England when there was a patch of mist reported near Berlin on the news are sodding annoying & mean the driver needs their 'button finger' snapping off & shoving up their arse till it tickles their tonsils.

[eddyramrod]

. Properly adjusted front fogs can't dazzle by design.

No such thing exists, anywhere in the world.

[outlaw118]

Cheers chaps....

 

Just been out and delivered parcels to bro and stopped at the olds and left grandparent stuff. Didn't say a lot, too tired for arguments and made that clear. 

 

Prepping stuff for tomorrow, wrapping up stuff for Mrs_Outlaw from the cats (I've been told we're not buying for each other, but I can't stop the kittehs going out can I? )

 

Then TOCA Race Driver on the PS2 and some codeine, then a nap. Mrs is working till 3, then we'll start on the doritos and shit films. (Or I might just post shit up on here)

[Guest Hooli]

No such thing exists, anywhere in the world.

 

Correct answer

 

I don't think they are tested on MOTs either, so it'll never happen.

[eddyramrod]

I probably should have mentioned that my advice above comes with a pinch of salt, in a self-seal bag.  If your rellies are anything like MrsR's sister, who lives in south Wales, they will take your inability to travel as a deliberate personal insult.

Which at least means we no longer need to send money-filled cards to her various adult children!

[rantingYoof]

Then TOCA Race Driver on the PS2....

 

You legend...

 

 

*memories of rage-quitting a championship in the final race come flooding back*

[MikeR]

correct , they are not tested on MOTs

 

I would love to down rate the bulbs in mine ans use them as DRLs

 

( runs for door ......... )

[Negative Creep]

I've never understood why fogs aren't just designed to switch off automatically with the engine, hence you'd have to put them on manually every time you start the car. Positioning of the warning light doesn't always help either, on my Golf it's on the light dial so completely obscured by the wheel when driving

[myglaren]

Take really hot showers, as hot as you can stand; direct the water into the offending lughole and then let it drain repeatedly. I've had waxed up ears before and never had this fail to shift it, the wax is mobilised by the water, natural processes take care of the rest and it falls out.

 

 

One piece of advice I read in Leonard Cohen's novel "Beautiful Losers" was to pour weak Hydrogen Peroxide into the offending lug.  Claimed his mother used to use it on him.

 

I have tried it and it works but the fizzing can be a bit odd.

 

This comes with no warranty.  If you use too high a concentration don't moan to me if your brain falls out of the hole.

[Cavcraft]

Yesterday it was Manchester viewing a not as described Insignia, today was Liverpool and an even worse one.

[outlaw118]

AVAS M9

[mat_the_cat]

On the opposite end of the scale what's the deal with these blooming cyclists with a lamp or lamps on the front of the bicycle 25000 times brighter than the sun aimed incorrectly just so they blind drivers and to top it they set them on flash mode

As a cyclist myself I can't stop myself commenting on this - but not in the usual 'us and them' way...

 

I do have pretty bright lights, as I want to remain alive as long as possible. But they do have a cut-off at the top of the beam (like a car dipped beam), and the flashing mode I reserve for daylight. Quite aside from not wanting to be a selfish twat, the last thing I want is to have a dazzled and/or pissed off driver heading towards me! But I do know exactly what you mean, and it just builds up bad feeling on both 'sides'

[reb]

I was following a slightly older range rover along a long straight street the other night, at some point it got slightly darker, on comes rangies fogs. The same as many cars though you cannot have just the fronts on, you can have rear or both. It just so happens the rears were pointed directly into my eyes, not entirely pleasant when you're on work hour 22 of the week and it's only bloody tuesday. Flash flash flash. He pulls over. Pull up next to him with window down, "turn your bloody foglights off", incredibly there was no resistance, just profuse apology.

Some modern cars have foglights so bright they completely hide the shape of the car when you're following them on a clear dark night, which seems somewhat counterproductive to me.

 

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[Guest Hooli]

As a cyclist myself I can't stop myself commenting on this - but not in the usual 'us and them' way...

 

I do have pretty bright lights, as I want to remain alive as long as possible. But they do have a cut-off at the top of the beam (like a car dipped beam), and the flashing mode I reserve for daylight. Quite aside from not wanting to be a selfish twat, the last thing I want is to have a dazzled and/or pissed off driver heading towards me! But I do know exactly what you mean, and it just builds up bad feeling on both 'sides'

 

My new bike lights have a flash mode, first thing I did was work out how to turn that off. I'll never use it as it only serves to annoy & make it harder to judge where the cyclist is, their speed etc.