The grumpy thread

[warch]

I don't even like working under cars on axle stands, my preference is for either the wheel I've just removed with a sheet of wood over it to protect the sill/wheel face when just working to the side of the car or some railway sleepers (spare ones, not from the adjacent railway line obviously) when working underneath. 

[MikeR]

3 hours ago, MikeR said:

In Aintree hospital , stressed after using the multi story , spaces avb it said , took me 30 minutes to find one and only because I saw some one leaving . 

Never again , use the train next time or walk in ...

3 quid to get out because the 30 mins 8 spent looking for a space took me over charge point ,blood test was a in and out job ,5 mins max , so I paid for looking for a parking space , many other unhappy drivers stood around the payment machine which did not take money , not good when it declines your card , f in stuffed then !!! 

[GagaStan]

Why does nobody ever change these??

At least now I know why the blower fan felt a bit asthmatic…

[artdjones]

16 minutes ago, GagaStan said:

Why does nobody ever change these??

At least now I know why the blower fan felt a bit asthmatic…

We once had a 12 year old K11 Micra come back with a complaint that it wouldn't demist. On Micras the dash panel is made with a panel that has to be cut out the first time the cabin filter is changed. This one still had it in place...

[mitsisigma01]

Where would that be 🤔🤔

[GagaStan]

27 minutes ago, artdjones said:

We once had a 12 year old K11 Micra come back with a complaint that it wouldn't demist. On Micras the dash panel is made with a panel that has to be cut out the first time the cabin filter is changed. This one still had it in place...

That is GRIM, although by the state of this one I wouldn't be surprised if it's original from 2007 🤢

[MikeR]

2 hours ago, GagaStan said:

Why does nobody ever change these??

At least now I know why the blower fan felt a bit asthmatic…

ours fell out a few weeks back , banged it on the wall to clear the shite , then put it back with an extra clip on it .., prob see the car out now ..

[Wack]

If only somebody had a flamethrower 

Utter fucking scumbags 

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJuVRKKf/

[RoverFolkUs]

14 hours ago, GagaStan said:

Why does nobody ever change these??

At least now I know why the blower fan felt a bit asthmatic…

Unfortunately this is caused by folk being sold "full services" for £150 which are just glamorous oil + filter changes. When phoned up to be sold the air, fuel, cabin filters for an extra £x, £y and £z each, they decline, because they think they're already getting a full service and everything else is just a sales pitch. 

If an indy tells you a full service is £300-350, it means they're doing it properly, not ripping you off. Unfortunately 80% of people don't realise this. It's not their fault at all though, just scummy sales tactics by the fast fit industry and the likes of Servicing Stop. 

If you tell someone you're doing a "full" service, that would imply 'everything' is being done. Clues in the name. 

As an example at my indy, we offer full, tailored and intermediate

Full is what happens the first time we see it and/or there's no prior history, all the normal fluids and filters get changed. Including Iridium plugs where fitted. No surcharges, no bullshit. You get a base price depending on the make/model and that's what you pay

Tailored is a full, minus what isn't due. Generally every 2 years/20k miles. So you have the base price and then the price goes down for every item that isn't due, e.g if the fuel filter doesn't need doing for another 2 years, or the plugs aren't due for 30k. Etc etc 

Intermediate gets done every 10k for the motorway milers or every year for the "2k a year" mileage customers. It's basically an oil change and health check, what others would call a full service. Yet it's our lowest service. 

If someone calls a service a full service but the wheels haven't been taken off then I sometimes cry a little inside... 

For further info, I posted a rant in the motor trade thread which sums everything up!

[GagaStan]

26 minutes ago, RoverFolkUs said:

Unfortunately this is caused by folk being sold "full services" for £150 which are just glamorous oil + filter changes. When phoned up to be sold the air, fuel, cabin filters for an extra £x, £y and £z each, they decline, because they think they're already getting a full service and everything else is just a sales pitch. 

I'd agree, this is exactly it. It's off an '07 Kia Rio, which I believe at the time was one of the cheapest news card you could buy here in NZ. So no surprises that the previous owners didn't want to pay (what they'd consider to be) "over the odds" for servicing...

If an oil and filter change is  'full service' for some garages, what the hell is a standard service? Park it in the forecourt for a few hours and take the money? 🤣

[RoverFolkUs]

6 minutes ago, GagaStan said:

I'd agree, this is exactly it. It's off an '07 Kia Rio, which I believe at the time was one of the cheapest news card you could buy here in NZ. So no surprises that the previous owners didn't want to pay (what they'd consider to be) "over the odds" for servicing...

If an oil and filter change is  'full service' for some garages, what the hell is a standard service? Park it in the forecourt for a few hours and take the money? 🤣

That's exactly what we say, they must top up the screenwash, kick the tyres and send it 😂

[DavieW]

Not so much a Grump, more of a WTF?

Yesterday I saw a jogger jogging down a busy-ish road a couple of feet from the kerb with a perfectly good pavement running alongside it. He then jogged on the outside of parked cars. Not only that, he was jogging with the traffic and not against it so couldn't see if there was anything coming up behind him. Would've served him right if someone had "mirrored" him when passing.

[High Jetter]

Am not a regular jogger (well, have never tried it tbh) but I can see junctions being a problem - pavement, cross road, pavement etc, all down & up kerbs. However that one seems particularly twattish. A jogger, in fact

[Metal Guru]

1 hour ago, RoverFolkUs said:

Unfortunately this is caused by folk being sold "full services" for £150 which are just glamorous oil + filter changes. When phoned up to be sold the air, fuel, cabin filters for an extra £x, £y and £z each, they decline, because they think they're already getting a full service and everything else is just a sales pitch. 

If an indy tells you a full service is £300-350, it means they're doing it properly, not ripping you off. Unfortunately 80% of people don't realise this. It's not their fault at all though, just scummy sales tactics by the fast fit industry and the likes of Servicing Stop. 

If you tell someone you're doing a "full" service, that would imply 'everything' is being done. Clues in the name. 

As an example at my indy, we offer full, tailored and intermediate

Full is what happens the first time we see it and/or there's no prior history, all the normal fluids and filters get changed. Including Iridium plugs where fitted. No surcharges, no bullshit. You get a base price depending on the make/model and that's what you pay

Tailored is a full, minus what isn't due. Generally every 2 years/20k miles. So you have the base price and then the price goes down for every item that isn't due, e.g if the fuel filter doesn't need doing for another 2 years, or the plugs aren't due for 30k. Etc etc 

Intermediate gets done every 10k for the motorway milers or every year for the "2k a year" mileage customers. It's basically an oil change and health check, what others would call a full service. Yet it's our lowest service. 

If someone calls a service a full service but the wheels haven't been taken off then I sometimes cry a little inside... 

For further info, I posted a rant in the motor trade thread which sums everything up!

I got my car ( bought from new)  serviced at the main dealers for 15 years until their prices became stupid.

First service at an independent garage , guy asks me when the pollen filter was last changed. I said “what pollen filter?” as I had never been charged for one before. I checked the service schedule and it’s not mentioned at all , so presumably the dealer was unaware it was actually there.

It looked pretty much like the one shown excerpt it started life white.

[RoverFolkUs]

22 minutes ago, Metal Guru said:

I got my car ( bought from new)  serviced at the main dealers for 15 years until their prices became stupid.

First service at an independent garage , guy asks me when the pollen filter was last changed. I said “what pollen filter?” as I had never been charged for one before. I checked the service schedule and it’s not mentioned at all , so presumably the dealer was unaware it was actually there.

It looked pretty much like the one shown excerpt it started life white.

What car/brand out of interest? 

Most main dealer servicing is designed in the interests of warranty compliance, so looking after the oily bits

A blocked cabin filter can ruin the heater motor, but it would be well outside the warranty period before this happens

I'm surprised they haven't ever recommended the cabin filter on sales grounds but a lot of dealers aren't orientated towards upselling compared to the US as an example where most technicians are flat rate. 

Yes they can be slightly overzealous on brake/tyre reports but that's about it

[Metal Guru]

1 hour ago, RoverFolkUs said:

What car/brand out of interest? 

Most main dealer servicing is designed in the interests of warranty compliance, so looking after the oily bits

A blocked cabin filter can ruin the heater motor, but it would be well outside the warranty period before this happens

I'm surprised they haven't ever recommended the cabin filter on sales grounds but a lot of dealers aren't orientated towards upselling compared to the US as an example where most technicians are flat rate. 

Yes they can be slightly overzealous on brake/tyre reports but that's about it

Subaru

[MikeR]

That sums our town up , I had to pick up the wife with her shopping, saw her, I parked the car in a parking  slot , and as I got out the car some old guy on sticks starts having a go at me for not leaving him any room , FFS sake he had a good 2 foot front and rear to use , so being polite I explained some 4 times I would be gone before he got in his car , and I was ....

Perhaps the alternative would be to suggest it was time to give up driving but I did not want a cardiac incident on my hands ...

[wuvvum]

Insomnia can get in the fucking sea.  Also I appear to have lost a bit more off the tooth I chipped a few weeks back - hopefully it'll manage to last until my next dentist appointment in a couple of months before it disintegrates completely.

[wuvvum]

The politics forum is making me grumpy.  It used to be that we could have a more or less civilised debate on there (barring one or two persistent trolls) but it's becoming more and more like Twitter by the day, with people who I previously respected turning into condescending cunts and any semblance of debate descending into an exchange of insults.  It's quite depressing.

[chadders]

1 hour ago, wuvvum said:

Insomnia can get in the fucking sea.  Also I appear to have lost a bit more off the tooth I chipped a few weeks back - hopefully it'll manage to last until my next dentist appointment in a couple of months before it disintegrates completely.

What about an emergency dentist or can't you get to see one?

https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/dentists/how-can-i-access-an-nhs-dentist-in-an-emergency-or-out-of-hours/

[wuvvum]

18 minutes ago, chadders said:

What about an emergency dentist or can't you get to see one?

https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/dentists/how-can-i-access-an-nhs-dentist-in-an-emergency-or-out-of-hours/

It's not an emergency yet - not currently causing me any pain. 

[Timewaster]

15 hours ago, wuvvum said:

The politics forum

I avoid that forum completely.

I might enjoy your opinion on a Toyota heater control but anything political seems to turn toxic almost instantly.

 

 

[Remspoor]

3 hours ago, Timewaster said:

I might enjoy your opinion on a Toyota heater control

That subject can turn into a heated debate.

[outlaw118]

5 hours ago, Timewaster said:

I avoid that forum completely.

Yep, me too.

I try and tend to adhere to the Rules Of Autoshite and subsequent additions, namely DON'T BE A DICK, and SCROLL PAST. It's easy enough.

I'm quite capable of causing fucking arguments on the main forums, without making things worse.

[brownnova]

Selling my MG is turning out to be a bit of a pain in the arse with Facetwat Muppetplace buyers being true to form.

Of the three serious enquiries (ones that have gone about the “best price mate, give you £200 tonite mate” bridge.

1) Made arrangements to view, arrived, viewed, and explained that it wasn’t as nice as the other one he had viewed, then told me that the other one he had viewed was £6k and a minter. This one is £2.5k so never going to be as nice, I explain. I’ll call you, he never does. 
2) contacts me, asks normal questions, we even talk on the phone. He asks me to hold it for him, he’s definitely going to have it. Even offers a deposit (which I should have taken). Perfect buying story behind wanting it… arranged to come 4pm Thursday. So I arrange a quick exit from work, only to get a message at lunchtime to say he’s not coming… he’s found another one he wants instead.

3) Asks sensible sounding questions, writes in full sentences, arranges to come today about 6pm… he says he’ll text me in the morning to confirm times. At 3pm I text him. Oh sorry; don’t want to come today as it’s raining. But it’s bone dry here I tell him…. Silence ensues.

Strewth… 

[chadders]

Have you tried the MGOC?

It may take longer but I suspect you won't get many X Box offers. They'll probably appreciate it more as well.

[RoverFolkUs]

1 hour ago, brownnova said:

Selling my MG is turning out to be a bit of a pain in the arse with Facetwat Muppetplace buyers being true to form.

Of the three serious enquiries (ones that have gone about the “best price mate, give you £200 tonite mate” bridge.

1) Made arrangements to view, arrived, viewed, and explained that it wasn’t as nice as the other one he had viewed, then told me that the other one he had viewed was £6k and a minter. This one is £2.5k so never going to be as nice, I explain. I’ll call you, he never does. 
2) contacts me, asks normal questions, we even talk on the phone. He asks me to hold it for him, he’s definitely going to have it. Even offers a deposit (which I should have taken). Perfect buying story behind wanting it… arranged to come 4pm Thursday. So I arrange a quick exit from work, only to get a message at lunchtime to say he’s not coming… he’s found another one he wants instead.

3) Asks sensible sounding questions, writes in full sentences, arranges to come today about 6pm… he says he’ll text me in the morning to confirm times. At 3pm I text him. Oh sorry; don’t want to come today as it’s raining. But it’s bone dry here I tell him…. Silence ensues.

Strewth… 

It's probably a sign to keep it for another summer 😅

[Timewaster]

Facebook marketplaces eh?

We had a piece of furniture to move on, so I put it on there.

Over a 3 week period I had at least a dozen messages that went:

Is this still available?.  Yes it is.... *silence*

One went "Can you deliver for petrol money (40 miles away?)

No, it won't fit in my car.

Oh, it will fit in mine after all, can I come today?

Yes, (postcode and phone number)

*silence*

And a load of " definitely want it, just arranging a van " followed by *silence*

A "Can you keep it for 6 weeks until I have moved house?" Er, no.

I was getting ready to cut it up and take the bits to the tip when someone actually made a sensible offer and said they could be there that day and actually turned up.

So about 1 in 15 are not twats.

[somewhatfoolish]

2 hours ago, brownnova said:

3) Asks sensible sounding questions, writes in full sentences, arranges to come today about 6pm… he says he’ll text me in the morning to confirm times. At 3pm I text him. Oh sorry; don’t want to come today as it’s raining. But it’s bone dry here I tell him…. Silence ensues.

Strewth… 

Not raining in Wales; does not compute.

[Markeh]

Apparently someone upstairs didn't think we had enough on our plate with an uncle suddenly becoming terminally ill so now it's my gran's turn for a similar (albeit less unexpected/out of the blue) diagnosis. This becomes a problem as carrying on as normal albeit with a bit of dark humour is my coping mechanism, and that doesn't sit well with much of the family (although it at least does with my gran - very shortly after telling me she joked that I'd finally get her Kitchenaid mixer I called dibs on 10 years ago!) - so it's probably going to be a rather tense and unpleasant few months when dealing with other relatives. 

Nothing like going away for a week and being brought back down to earth with a thud not 12 hours after getting off the damn plane.