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I'm starting to think that my favourite kind of styling is the sort that is widely considered 'uninteresting' but, like the Primera here my favourite cars that get me excited are the ones that few people like! Like the mk1 Mondeo, designed not to be controversial. Primera, early Laguna, Mitsubishi Gallant, Saab 9-⁵, Volvo cars in general.

I like the Kia Stinger too. That's exciting, perhaps.

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1 hour ago, Tim_E said:

Though, the sense of achievement and the public spectacle of getting these running and tidy would be immense as would be the public interest in the media and at future retro shows, assuming there are any in the future. Especially if it's all done without (much) professional input.

Twc and Foxanne were both non-running turds at first.

Hubnut does tinkering well, although at times frustrating - 2cv manifold, when the knackered one got put back on - but the Olcit and Yugo don't require tinkering. They require full on resto.

Yes the sense of achievement would be huge if the projects got to completion, I disagree about public interest. Hard core hubnut fans would enjoy it. But beyond that core audience, who will tune in no matter what anyway, is there a massive following for f*cked yugos and olcits?

I accept Hubnut does not follow the crowd, because if he did he would have kept the R75 on fleet, given the number of rover lickers that exist.

The question is, whether Ian thinks the hassle / stress / financial outlay on the Yugo and Olcit is worth it professionally or personally.

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2 hours ago, Cookiesouwest said:

Hubnut does tinkering well, although at times frustrating - 2cv manifold, when the knackered one got put back on - but the Olcit and Yugo don't require tinkering. They require full on resto.

Yes the sense of achievement would be huge if the projects got to completion, I disagree about public interest. Hard core hubnut fans would enjoy it. But beyond that core audience, who will tune in no matter what anyway, is there a massive following for f*cked yugos and olcits?

I accept Hubnut does not follow the crowd, because if he did he would have kept the R75 on fleet, given the number of rover lickers that exist.

The question is, whether Ian thinks the hassle / stress / financial outlay on the Yugo and Olcit is worth it professionally or personally.

Totally agree on this.

At the end of the day It's Ian's channel & it's his choice.

I watch his video's regularly & for the me the bits I enjoy are tinkering, new arrivals to the fleet & road tests. I personally wouldn't want to watch a proper car restoration channel which is why I enjoy Hubnut. I like the fact he often doesn't know what he's doing (but gets there in the end). If I wanted to see somebody 100% clued up i'd watch Car Wizard or similar regularly.

The Invacar & the Fox whilst pretty shagged when he got them didn't need substantial welding etc & as restorations go were up & running pretty quick. I doubt the Yugo & Oltcit will be.

However like i say it's his channel & I look forward to what he plans to do.

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10 hours ago, Tim_E said:

Twc and Foxanne were both non-running turds at first.

Both of which have the benefit* of GRP bodies.  That removes at least 80% of the issues of corrosion.  Not only from a sheer area-of-metal point of view, but also that what steel is left is chassis, hence both less likely to corrode through and easier to fix if/when they do.

The Oltcit is going to need a complete engine bay strip down, possibly a replacement engine and some interesting* fabrication work.  The Yugo needs fabrication work, an auto-electrician and a damn good clean.  Between them there's several hundred hours of solid work to get them even to the point of scraping an MOT.  Trying to then record that, and put together some videos of it will at at least 30% on top of that (I guess).  It's a lot of work for someone with no welding and fabrication kit, and by their own admission isn't great with electricals.

I can see at least one of them being moved on.

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9 hours ago, ETCHY said:

Totally agree on this.

At the end of the day It's Ian's channel & it's his choice.

I watch his video's regularly & for the me the bits I enjoy are tinkering, new arrivals to the fleet & road tests. I personally wouldn't want to watch a proper car restoration channel which is why I enjoy Hubnut. I like the fact he often doesn't know what he's doing (but gets there in the end). If I wanted to see somebody 100% clued up i'd watch Car Wizard or similar regularly.

The Invacar & the Fox whilst pretty shagged when he got them didn't need substantial welding etc & as restorations go were up & running pretty quick. I doubt the Yugo & Oltcit will be.

However like i say it's his channel & I look forward to what he plans to do.

I have a short attention span and... oh look... er where was I. Yes. One thing that I don't like about some channels is that you have "Part 34 of the X Restoration project" or whatever where you have to have watched the whole series beforehand to know what's going on. You can usually dip in and out of what interests you. And there's a certain 'accessibility' to a guy tinkering with very little specialist equipment - inspires you in a way which a professional outfit doesn't.

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9 hours ago, N19 said:

And there's a certain 'accessibility' to a guy tinkering with very little specialist equipment - inspires you in a way which a professional outfit doesn't.

I've always liked this aspect, I have zero skills really, I've always liked Hubnut because @dollywobbler inspires me to at least have a go, and that it's ok if you can't manage it, or if you do it badly. Not everyone out there is professional.

Plus very few other people champion cars that don't have mods and crazy power. It was through Hubnut I found Autoshite.

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1 hour ago, lanciamatt said:

I also like listening to his stories and watching the vids , especially on the invacar and Yugo. I'm gifted as mechanic is my trade and do all my own repairs . I'd like another Yugo update .

Cheers. I'm a bit stuck with the Yugo to be honest. The wiring doesn't seem to make much sense, and seems to differ from what others have expected too. Mind you, I'm not gifted as a mechanic...

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2 hours ago, dollywobbler said:

Cheers. I'm a bit stuck with the Yugo to be honest. The wiring doesn't seem to make much sense, and seems to differ from what others have expected too. Mind you, I'm not gifted as a mechanic...

Did you ever manage to chase down a wiring diagram for it?

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7 hours ago, Tim_E said:

I've always liked this aspect, I have zero skills really, I've always liked Hubnut because @dollywobbler inspires me to at least have a go, and that it's ok if you can't manage it, or if you do it badly. Not everyone out there is professional.

Plus very few other people champion cars that don't have mods and crazy power. It was through Hubnut I found Autoshite.

I too found Autoshite through Hubnut. A fact that I will always be eternally grateful for.

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43 minutes ago, Cookiesouwest said:

I too found Autoshite through Hubnut. A fact that I will always be eternally grateful for.

+2 watching hubnut made me find this parish. I have been lucky to get to know, virtually, some kind and generous people. Also made new friends personally. Hubnut is more than just a channel. 

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6 hours ago, dollywobbler said:

Cheers. I'm a bit stuck with the Yugo to be honest. The wiring doesn't seem to make much sense, and seems to differ from what others have expected too. Mind you, I'm not gifted as a mechanic...

Wiring can be a pain especially if someone has been messing about , and you don't have a wiring diagram to follow. I've not seen the car , only from the videos you have posted . A fiat Tipo wiring diagram should do the job for a basis to work from . Start at the battery and work back with your multi meter . Also with any Italian car , don't think you have voltage fault it could be an earth issue . Those extra wires you have could be someone else's attempt to try sort a voltage issue they don't have .

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I was hoping for a Yugo update too, did the wiring colours I sent you on YT not tally up Ian? It is irritating, in that I KNOW that its a viable prospect, & the issues will be minor & easily rectified, once identified..

I`ve never driven one, but I have owned & driven its Italian siblings & predecessors, so I fully expect it to put the same smile on your face as the Fiat 127 did, once sorted.
 

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6 hours ago, dollywobbler said:

Cheers. I'm a bit stuck with the Yugo to be honest. The wiring doesn't seem to make much sense, and seems to differ from what others have expected too. Mind you, I'm not gifted as a mechanic...

From what I remember of the 'workshop manual' we got at Fields, it was more of a standard Italian approach to what we'd call a diagram - there were wires, and colours, yes. Also random relays iirc that weren't marked on the 'diagram'.

And at some point translated badly to add to the joy. 

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5 hours ago, Spurious said:

 

There's a couple of us then :D

 

 

4 hours ago, andyberg said:

+2 watching hubnut made me find this parish

I reckon Ian giving shoutouts to AS in his videos has probably made a big difference to keeping the forum alive, with new people joining regularly and making interesting contributions.  Seem to be a lot more new people coming through nowadays than back in years gone by.

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21 hours ago, Wilko220 said:

 

with new people joining regularly

Agreed

21 hours ago, Wilko220 said:

making interesting contributions. 

Err, can we disagree?! 

We were all new once/this were all fields when I were a lad - but there are plenty of people who’ve joined here who make no contribution to the wider community of AS and could probably just post their thoughts in the Youtube comments instead. 

Just my 2p. 

Back on thread, it’s always difficult when you have more projects than eyes. It must be even more difficult when you’re doing them not for yourself but for audience / revenue. I had a journalist in fits of confusion last month; he simply couldn’t comprehend the idea that I might have an old and interesting car for myself and not the amusement of others - and that, no, he couldn’t drive it or interview me about it.

Ultimately, it’s supposed to be fun. If it ain’t - give it up. 

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I actually try not to mention the Beige too much for fear it might drive too many people here. It's always been a tight knit place here, which has been the charm for a very long time. Last thing I want is it to end up a HubNut hangout, though I appreciate the kind words.

I think I'm going to start farming more work out. I need to focus on the real key members of the fleet and I might well farm some of that work out too if the numbers work. Not easy to find good garages though, especially when you live in the middle of nowhere. Garages here are used to doing the bare minimum to keep cars just about going because that's all most folk will pay for.

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36 minutes ago, dollywobbler said:

I actually try not to mention the Beige too much for fear it might drive too many people here. It's always been a tight knit place here, which has been the charm for a very long time

Absolutely fair. I suppose it's about hitting that sweet spot where there's enough new blood to keep things alive but without losing the close community spirit that makes this place what it is. Neither extreme would be good.

1 hour ago, BorniteIdentity said:

there are plenty of people who’ve joined here who make no contribution to the wider community of AS

Yeah, but there are also plenty who are not like that as well. Although admittedly, if I'd experienced all the aggro you've recently had trying to roffle a very nice Renault, I'd probably be feeling at least as cynical right now.

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54 minutes ago, dollywobbler said:

I actually try not to mention the Beige too much for fear it might drive too many people here. It's always been a tight knit place here, which has been the charm for a very long time. Last thing I want is it to end up a HubNut hangout, though I appreciate the kind words.

I think I'm going to start farming more work out. I need to focus on the real key members of the fleet and I might well farm some of that work out too if the numbers work. Not easy to find good garages though, especially when you live in the middle of nowhere. Garages here are used to doing the bare minimum to keep cars just about going because that's all most folk will pay for.

 

Autoshite has been diluted almost beyond recognition in the last couple of years so I'm not sure an influx would make much difference. 

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Cheers. Not a million miles from New Quay is the answer, the only problem being that New Quay is bloody miles from anywhere...

Hit another low yesterday when I started the Primera water pump job. When I simply couldn't get a spanner on the PAS adjuster, I gave up. The Rover has sapped my desire to battle with aux belts in close proximity to a chassis rail, so I'm farming that job out. The leak has got quite bad - a litre lost on a 40-mile drive - so that's out of action for now. 

Charade is in for MOT tomorrow. I'm wondering how bad the fail will be.

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