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[wuvvum]

So the Rover of Doom is about to run out of MOT.  When I MOT'd the 45 a couple of months ago I had to buy it a cat as under the new regs it needs one for the test as it was fitted with one from the factory.

 

The 45 was 2002, the RoD is 1998.  Will I need to buy it a cat as well (or at least a de-cat pipe which looks like a cat) or does that rule only apply to post-2001 CO₂-bollocks cars?

[New POD]

So the Rover of Doom is about to run out of MOT. When I MOT'd the 45 a couple of months ago I had to buy it a cat as under the new regs it needs one for the test as it was fitted with one from the factory.

 

The 45 was 2002, the RoD is 1998. Will I need to buy it a cat as well (or at least a de-cat pipe which looks like a cat) or does that rule only apply to post-2001 CO₂-bollocks cars?

Will it pass emissions with no cat ?

My 1995 Astra wouldn't (it was close though)

[skattrd]

When I asked my tame MOT tester about a similar thing I was informed that I would need a cat for my 1992 Alfa, as it had one from the factory … Even though they weren't a requirement until 1994, if it had one from the factory it should still be there.

 

Can any of the testers on here confirm this is true?

[twosmoke300]

1998 will have to pass a cat test so will need a cat

[wuvvum]

When I asked my tame MOT tester about a similar thing I was informed that I would need a cat for my 1992 Alfa, as it had one from the factory … Even though they weren't a requirement until 1994, if it had one from the factory it should still be there.

 

Is that the same for a dizzler though? 

 

 

It's always passed the emissions sans cat.  So did the 45 in fact.

[steveo3002]

When I asked my tame MOT tester about a similar thing I was informed that I would need a cat for my 1992 Alfa, as it had one from the factory … Even though they weren't a requirement until 1994, if it had one from the factory it should still be there.

 

Can any of the testers on here confirm this is true?

 

does that rely on them having encyclopedic knowledge of how every car and variant left the factory ?

 

my 91 car had a cat and somehow its gone missing , nothing ever been said sinse 1999 when i got it....sometimes they point at the small can where the o2 sensor is and think its a cat lol 

[twosmoke300]

91/92 is the cut off for the cat test iirc. There were a few crossover grey areas such as mpi minis , kit cars and Suzuki’s I think

[Guest Hooli]

does that rely on them having encyclopedic knowledge of how every car and variant left the factory ?

 

I rather suspect the system tells them.

[Dead_E23]

Where do people in other countries think Fords come from?

The ones I've owned were probably all made in Ghent or Valencia, yet I don't really think of them as foreign cars. Perversely, a Sunderland-built Micra would be.

Does a Frenchman think his Ford is French, Belgian, Spanish - what?

[clayts450]

I believe cats were mandatory on petrols from 1993 model year onwards (K reg on), but I may be wrong. I think it's related to the date the chassis number was assigned to the car rather than the registration date for added confusion. Or something.

 

Hope that helps*

[Lacquer Peel]

Is that the same for a dizzler though?

 

 

It's always passed the emissions sans cat. So did the 45 in fact.

These old 90s designed diesels don't have a catalytic converter, it's more of a primitive particulate filter.

They can pass emissions tests without it fitted but still emit harmful particulates.

It might be at the tester's discretion to pass it if the particulate filter is clearly removed but I imagine a lot are playing it safe.

It's hard to find any information about the post 1995ish diesels fitted with particulate filters so I guess they're treated like any other diesels with particulate filters.

[Lacquer Peel]

Where do people in other countries think Fords come from?

The ones I've owned were probably all made in Ghent or Valencia, yet I don't really think of them as foreign cars. Perversely, a Sunderland-built Micra would be.

Does a Frenchman think his Ford is French, Belgian, Spanish - what?

It always grinds my gears when lazy hacks refer to Fords from Dagenham and Vauxhalls from Luton.

[Tamworthbay]

It always grinds my gears when lazy hacks refer to Fords from Dagenham and Vauxhalls from Luton.

I still hear Capris being referred to as Dagenham dustbins, or ‘the best budget British sports coupe’ or whatever, despite the fact that Germany is their home really.

[wuvvum]

Does a Frenchman think his Ford is French, Belgian, Spanish - what?

A Frenchman has a tendency to think everything is French.

 

 

As far as I can make out, most of our Continental cousins seem to think of Ford as German.

[xtriple]

Where has the 'Donate' button gone?

 

Asking for a friend naturally!

[John F]

wuvvum, on 06 Dec 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

A Frenchman has a tendency to think everything is French.

 

 

As far as I can make out, most of our Continental cousins seem to think of Ford as German.

 

Yep, Ford had been based in Cologne since long before WW2 and became the European headquarters of Ford Motor Company in the 1960s.

[Wack]

Anybody know anything about Army regiments

 

I bought a book dated 1894 and this picture was in it, it's stamped Bourne And Shepherd Photographers Bombay on the back

 

 

 

[wuvvum]

Well it's at least 23 years old, because if it was newer than that it'd say Mumbai rather than Bombay.

 

 

HTH.

[MorrisItalSLX]

Humber Super Snipe?

 

 

Steering wheel emblem perhaps?

[mercrocker]

Absolutely....

 

[Supernaut]

Where do people in other countries think Fords come from?

The ones I've owned were probably all made in Ghent or Valencia, yet I don't really think of them as foreign cars. Perversely, a Sunderland-built Micra would be.

Does a Frenchman think his Ford is French, Belgian, Spanish - what?

 

Fords are American.

Nissans are Japanese.

 

There.

[Guest Hooli]

Anybody know anything about Army regiments

 

I bought a book dated 1894 and this picture was in it, it's stamped Bourne And Shepherd Photographers Bombay on the back

 

old soldiers.jpeg

 

'tash tastic!

[Wack]

Anybody know anything about Army regiments

 

I bought a book dated 1894 and this picture was in it, it's stamped Bourne And Shepherd Photographers Bombay on the back

 

old soldiers.jpeg

'tash tastic!

Dickie , I fear we may have a spy amongst our ranks , I say Caruthers do you have any idea who it may be

 

I have my suspicions , 6 across , 1 down

[robinmasters]

Bini 1.6 pezzer. Rough idle, stalling, and rough at speed once warmed up. I'm getting O2 sensor and thermostat codes.

 

I can't find an intake leak.

 

Do I rely on the codes and just change the O2 sensor? They're said to last ~100k, and it's done 93. Or is there something else, preferably cheap, that I should be trying first?

 

I'm not convinced fault codes make anything easier.

[artdjones]

Bini 1.6 pezzer. Rough idle, stalling, and rough at speed once warmed up. I'm getting O2 sensor and thermostat codes.

 

I can't find an intake leak.

 

Do I rely on the codes and just change the O2 sensor? They're said to last ~100k, and it's done 93. Or is there something else, preferably cheap, that I should be trying first?

 

I'm not convinced fault codes make anything easier.

Look at live data on the O2 sensor.

[Wack]

Bini 1.6 pezzer. Rough idle, stalling, and rough at speed once warmed up. I'm getting O2 sensor and thermostat codes.I can't find an intake leak.Do I rely on the codes and just change the O2 sensor? They're said to last ~100k, and it's done 93. Or is there something else, preferably cheap, that I should be trying first?I'm not convinced fault codes make anything easier.

  

Look at live data on the O2 sensor.

I'd try it on EE

[twosmoke300]

What year ? Early bini O2 sensors are service items .

Later prince ones can suffer with high pressure fuel pumps causing 02 issues

[Skizzer]

Where has the 'Donate' button gone?

 

Asking for a friend naturally!

It went when Stanky and Slartibartfast took over the hosting from daveb47 and has been replaced by a monthly appeal that Stanky posts as a topic on the main board.

 

Your friend needs to be on her toes to catch it on the first of each month as it sells out fast.

[robinmasters]

What year ? Early bini O2 sensors are service items .

Later prince ones can suffer with high pressure fuel pumps causing 02 issues

It's an '06 Cooper

[DodgeRover]

Business fuel cards - does anybody have one? Currently going through 200-300l of LPG a week, none of the websites say anything about gas