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[Landy Mann]

As long as it's was fitted before* 2007 your OK... Unless you can get a plastic nudge bar instead a la land rovers. (I'm sure* a freelander one could be made to fit)

 

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[gm]

Re gps issues, the case is a plastic / 'leather' jobbie, I'll try taking it out to see if it helps. I also have navmii installed so will see if that will do any better. Cheers all

Right, so I tried taking it out of the case, changing the sat nav software, plugging it in on charge in the car, it still seemed determined to direct me along the union canal instead of the slightly more orthodox M9 to work

 

The solution turned out to be simple, I'm quite surprised no one suggested that I "try turning It off and on again" ! Normal service has now been resumed

[bub2006]

I can't see you being able to buy a new metal nudge bar. They got banned as unsafe for pedestrians years back.

I don't think they was banned. They did have to meet eu directives after a certain year though. Which means no home made jobs etc.

[fatharris]

Which is easier on an autobox when stopped at traffic lights, leaving it in drive, or banging it into neutral and stopping it pulling against the brakes?

 

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[bub2006]

If I was waiting for any period at lights id drop up into neutral. But I'm the odd one that would have my autos in 2 or 3 in town traffic anyway

[dave21478]

I don't think they was banned. They did have to meet eu directives after a certain year though. Which means no home made jobs etc.

 

They were banned. If your car had one before whatever the date was, you could keep it so if you can find a second hand one you will be ok, but new ones have to be foam or plastic.

 

Metal ones do crop up for various cars but I think they are for "off road use only."

[KruJoe]

Why wouldn't you bang your auto into "P" and chill until the lights change?

[Urko]

I always leave autos in d at the lights etc.

 

Two different auto trans rebuilders have told me it's fine. It's what everone in the US does all the time.

[bub2006]

They were banned. If your car had one before whatever the date was, you could keep it so if you can find a second hand one you will be ok, but new ones have to be foam or plastic.

 

Metal ones do crop up for various cars but I think they are for "off road use only."

Ahh ok,that would explain why new ones aren't available. Second hand ones are non existent too.

[Urko]

But I'm the odd one that would have my autos in 2 or 3 in town traffic anyway

Why?

[bub2006]

The focus and the Vectra were both 1.6 engines and tended to hunt through the gears

[andy18s]

I always leave autos in d at the lights etc.

 

Two different auto trans rebuilders have told me it's fine. It's what everone in the US does all the time.

Great for whoever is sat behind you and has to look at the brake lights........not so great for your pads/discs which will be cooling at different rates and encouraging warping...

 

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[Eddie Honda]

I slip mine into N on longer stops and use the fucking handbrake like I'm meant too. Too many inconsiderate bastards burning my eyeballs out with the brake lights. Most certainly would put it in P unless I was P'd. That's why there's N.

[Urko]

Great for whoever is sat behind you and has to look at the brake lights........not so great for your pads/discs which will be cooling at different rates and encouraging warping...

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Well my only current auto is the AMC, the brake lights on that are barely visible by moderm omg led standards.

 

When I've had modern auto stuff, I use the handbrake. Never experienced differential cooling brake omg horror.

 

Apparently some modern auto chod with auto handbrakes put the brake lights on anyway.

 

I'm leaving it in drive at the lights as the makers intended/designed it (and recommended by auto trans beards and the handbooks), feel free to waste time and effort using n or p as you wish.

[Urko]

Advanced drivers say D and handbrake (as well as car handbooks) -

 

http://www.advanced-driving.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=142

[skattrd]

I put it in P at the lights if I'm gonna be stationary for a while. 

It has the added bonus of flashing the reverse light at drivers behind you when putting it back in to D .... I might occasionally leave it in R for a second or two just to worry them.

[garbaldy]

Urko its not about being right and wrong though, its about being courteous to other road users by not blinding them with eye level brake lights,

Also the handbook would have been written in the good old days when the roads had half as many motorist's ready to rip your head off.

[xtriple]

I put mine in park as well. Cannot use the handbrake (foot operated!) as it will not engage unless the engine is off. As soon as you start it and put it in gear, the handbrake releases. Bloody stupid!

[Urko]

Like I said, I use the handbrake and D if driving something modern. I will admit to not using the handbrake in the AMC, but -

I hardly ever use it after dark

The brake lights aren't going to blind anyone, ever

The handbrake is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

 

I do try to be courteous to other folk, honest.

[Andrew353w]

Which is easier on an autobox when stopped at traffic lights, leaving it in drive, or banging it into neutral and stopping it pulling against the brakes?

 

When I'm stopped I always apply the handbrake, since holding the car on the footbrake is poor driving technique (if your foot slipped off the pedal the car would move) could dazzle drivers behind (I have L.E.D. brake lights) and is poor mechanical practice (it keeps the heat of the pads concentrated on one part of the disc, which may cause warping over time) As for slipping into neutral, my Citroën is one that allows gear changes without applying the footbrake first, to I tend to wait in neutral, select "D" as the traffic moves off and let the creep start the car rolling gently before accelerating; smooth starts and less strain all round! 

[scdan4]

I;m going to try and get the saab aircon working.

 

I've had a look for a can of air con recharge jollop (preferably with a leak dye in it) on ecp and gsf and neither list it as far as I can see.

 

Have I made it up - I thought you could get aerosol cans of the gas to lob in and diy at home. But maybe not.

 

Don't really want to go to a quick fit type place as I suspect they'll bang it in, it'll work (for a bit), I'll pay and then all the gas will fall out and i'll be no better off.

 

At least if I charge it at home I can have a good long crawl round inspecting the pipes to see if I can see where it is leaking from.

[Lacquer Peel]

I don't like going into park in traffic, as it means slotting the lever into reverse before park. Because I am a fud I may have accidentally selected reverse stopped at a junction.

[Eddie Honda]

My Jazz for all its stupid interlocks, allows movement between D to N and back to D without holding the gear stick button in.

 

All those "Advanced" drivers that leave it and D and stick the handbrake on must either have non-creeping CVTs, AMTs or fucking amazing handbrakes.

[Andrew353w]

My Jazz for all its stupid interlocks, allows movement between D to N and back to D without holding the gear stick button in.

 

All those "Advanced" drivers that leave it and D and stick the handbrake on must either have non-creeping CVTs, AMTs or fucking amazing handbrakes.

 

The original inventors of the C.V.T., alias the "Variomatic" were Daf. Their cars never crept at all, as the centrifugal clutch completely separated the engine from the drive at tick-over, so you could leave them in gear without any need to worry about the car creeping forward. Mind you, Dafs, particularly the early air-cooled ones, didn't have particularly good handbrakes (no hills in Holland!)

[Richard]

I asked the question on here a couple of years ago when I got the Volvo and the consensus then was handbrake and Drive.

 

I have to say I've rarely been bothered by brake lights, in fact seeing them go out is a good indication that the car in front is about to move off.

[garbaldy]

Surely the car moving is a better indication though as the driver may have decided sod it I will put the hand brake on.

[Sealtainn]

When driving old man Seals 2.9 Granada, I used to select N and use the handbrake when stopped in traffic as it was something I asked my driving instructor whilst I was learning. It used to send my Dad mad as he was firmly of the opinion that it should be in D with use of the footbrake. Then again, this was coming from someone who when entering a roundabout to go straight ahead would enter in the left hand lane indicating right till he was past the 1st exit then start indicating left to take the 2nd exit, so me entering in the left lane without indication till I had passed the 1st exit was another source of heated debate !

[Slappy]

Has anybody done well at auctions which are flogging items previously stored by the local constabulary?

 

Would like a new bike, and from what I've read these seem to be the best place to find a decent, non stolen (well not at that point) second hand bike for not much coin. I know that someone on here (NE based I think) got an ex Chief Constable Mondeo V6 for not a huge amount a while back.

[Eddie Honda]

The original inventors of the C.V.T., alias the "Variomatic" were Daf. Their cars never crept at all, as the centrifugal clutch completely separated the engine from the drive at tick-over, so you could leave them in gear without any need to worry about the car creeping forward. Mind you, Dafs, particularly the early air-cooled ones, didn't have particularly good handbrakes (no hills in Holland!)

Well up until the mid-70s the DAFs (with possibly the exception of (I think) the Swiss market model, which had some kind of clutch lock to meet local regs) were forwards for forwards and reverse for reverse and started in gear. Very late ones had a positive N position for servicing, etc. V66s and V300s have a P position and under no circumstances should they be on choke/and or revved in P as it'll toast the clutch. If in doubt, RTFM.

 

The key bit above is "at tick-over", anything more than tickover and the clutch starts to engage with Frank Spencer hilarity*.

 

Anyway, I had a courtesy car once which was a facelift K11 Micra Shape 1.0L with CVT and from memory, it didn't creep. The Jazz does creep and with the SWRA box not having a torque converter, but a wet multi-plate start clutch, it's no wonder they had a big book of warranty claims.

[Eddie Honda]

Volvo 200 series handbook, 1986: "When idling for extended periods of time, select position N to prevent unnecessary heating of the

transmission." and they were still saying it in 1993. (AW71 gearbox IIRC).

 

For two minutes at the lights, I don't see a problem with D and a decent handbrake. But it's not really a big hardship nudging a lever forward into N (unless you have a knackered/missing left arm)