invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[GingerNuttz]

38 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

Easy mistake when they both have the same name though isn’t it. I can see why/how it happens.
 

 

Shame they don't come in 70's mobility blue like the old Invacare models

[red5]

I was referring to the requirement for them to be MOT'd as a Tricycle pre MOT exemption/classification changes for Invalid Vehicles, not Carriages (which is the current, updated regs). I suspect that the OP vehicle falls out of the current Class on weight/speed as alluded to previously. Therefore Tricycle would be logical- it could in theory be MOT'd on the Chassis no to get it on the system so to speak?

B1 on the old licence.

[alcyonecorporation]

invacare bully's cunt 

[Dave_Q]

@LightBulbFun I was linking the mobility scooter rules due to the angryblokeinacaravan attempting to claim his/his mates Argson is one, I know it's not one as you do so we are back to square one of "you must register, insure and zero rate VED your contraption"

It's kinda sad that these 2 have gone down this route of cunting everyone off left right and centre when someone on here probably could have helped navigate the DVLA. Never mind.

[alcyonecorporation]

1 hour ago, Dave_Q said:

@LightBulbFun I was linking the mobility scooter rules due to the angryblokeinacaravan attempting to claim his/his mates Argson is one, I know it's not one as you do so we are back to square one of "you must register, insure and zero rate VED your contraption"

It's kinda sad that these 2 have gone down this route of cunting everyone off left right and centre when someone on here probably could have helped navigate the DVLA. Never mind.

Yeah, like me. I offered, but was told I was a 'juror' and was 'judging.' 

I mean, I am a cunt, but I was genuinely trying to help.
I speak quite often with the liaison folk for such things, and I'm fairly certain something could have been done. 

He seemed to think that this forum was allowed no opinion on his situation, and existed simply to sympathise/agree with him unconditionally, even though he was massively wide of the mark in what he had chosen to do. 

Believe it not, I empathise, especially when you're dealing with the pregnant pustule of a bureaucratic cess pool like the DVLA;  when you're so frustrated you want someone/something to stop being arbitrarily shit and just FUCKING CONCEDE THEY'RE WRONG, the last thing you want to hear is things to the contrary, or otherwise. But doubling down and/or justifying law breaking 'because they won't help me' is chav logic. 

[calebaaront]

This has popped up on my Facebook feed. 

[sdkrc]

Is that a double decker?

[calebaaront]

Just now, sdkrc said:

Is that a double decker?

Reminded me of the Pope Mobile!  Definitely quite funky looking 

[Dyslexic Viking]

That picture has been shared here before. I seem to remember @LightBulbFun said that this was one where you could stand while driving?

[LightBulbFun]

41 minutes ago, calebaaront said:

This has popped up on my Facebook feed. 

Yeah that ones been "doing the rounds" recently its actually quite neat to see one group its been posted in is a group local to the location the picture is of, and a fair number of people seem to remember the machine and the guy who had it! 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5968150751/posts/10162095673055752/

26 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

That picture has been shared here before. I seem to remember @LightBulbFun said that this was one where you could stand while driving?

indeed  https://autoshite.com/topic/32723-lightbulbfuns-invacar-general-ramble-thread-index-on-page-1-survivors-lists-on-pages-24134-adgecutlers-invacar-mk12-restoration-from-page-186-onwards-still-harping-on/page/258/?tab=comments#comment-2512441

heres a slightly earlier example, that shows some of the internal layout

 

 

speaking of AC Acedes, I found this neat picture the other day, I wonder what the deal is with the Disabled person petrol sign is and why it has a time span on it? looks like it says 7AM-10PM on it

https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/small-three-wheeled-car-pulls-up-by-a-disability-sign-at-a-news-photo/1346523066

is that just simply to say the period of time someone would be on hand to come out and help fill up your car if you were disabled? (I did wonder if it was a Petrol rationing thing, but the photo is from 1974, I am not sure if any petrol rationing happened then?)

another interesting thing is the Acedes itself is wearing late/Invacar style hub caps, do wonder if its a late model 57 or just simply has later hub caps fitted/hub caps from an Invacar Mk12

(I say Model 57, it COULD be a Model 64, as I cant see the defining features that tell them apart but I would have to ask why an Electric machine would be pulling into a petrol station!)

 

and also on another Facebook post featuring a Model 70 and a Model 64, someone left this comment

which amused/tickled me quite a bit (especially as I think I have made mention of the gag potential with a Model 70 being air cooled), he did get his revenge in the end too  

[Dyslexic Viking]

15 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

I wonder what the deal is with the Disabled person petrol sign is and why it has a time span on it? looks like it says 7AM-10PM on it

Could it be that between those times the petrol station helps disabled people fill up their vehicles?

[red5]

3 hours ago, Dave_Q said:

@LightBulbFun I was linking the mobility scooter rules due to the angryblokeinacaravan attempting to claim his/his mates Argson is one, I know it's not one as you do so we are back to square one of "you must register, insure and zero rate VED your contraption"

It's kinda sad that these 2 have gone down this route of cunting everyone off left right and centre when someone on here probably could have helped navigate the DVLA. Never mind.

Indeed - my friends other half worked at our old local DVLA office, but what would she know.

[warren t claim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxGOtSPqMeg&ab_channel=EastWardTelevision

 

11.30 onwards for utter death dicing.

[JJ0063]

19 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxGOtSPqMeg&ab_channel=EastWardTelevision

 

11.30 onwards for utter death dicing.

Dez in 15 years time on his first run round the M25 en route to fetch a 6ft fluorescent tube someone kept in their garage for him since 2021. 

[LightBulbFun]

BTW yesterday marked 5 years since I started this thread! its quite amazing to see just how far its all come! the masses of invalid vehicle History and information unearthed and all the vehicles that have been found and helped back onto the road through the research conducted in this thread

it is something I am really quite proud of if I am allowed to say so  (makes the comments from back in the day about this all being a flash in the pan so to speak, all the more amusing ) 

 

to celebrate have a slightly* fuzzy incidental spotting of an Invacar *Mk9*  

bonus points if you can say why this is such a spot  

[RoverFolkUs]

10 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

Dez in 15 years time on his first run round the M25 en route to fetch a 6ft fluorescent tube someone kept in their garage for him since 2021. 

Sandra on her way to work at the DVLA office: "ooh, an Invacare in the wild! I had an email about one of those being mixed up with something called an Invacar"

[LightBulbFun]

27 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxGOtSPqMeg&ab_channel=EastWardTelevision

Hah thats amusing! but I want to note how he is not pulled over for "driving a vehicle banned from the motorway" but simply is pulled over because he is going slow and obstructing traffic, as mentioned before a Model 70 is not actually banned from motorways like so many people think they, and they never have been banned either,  had he been keeping a good speed I doubt they would of bothered him,

 

its also a good example of how they where not really all colloquially known as "Invacars" as they are these days, the whole calling them all Invacars is actually a fairly recent phenomena, but back in the day in period they where never called that, most people just called Invalid Carriages, Invalid Trikes, Disability cars and so forth, sometimes even just called "Trikes" or "conveyances" 

but it is interesting to hear the police man make the comment even back in the 80's  of "not seen one of those for ages"

Model 70 in question is HPD692N  

19 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

Dez in 15 years time on his first run round the M25 en route to fetch a 6ft fluorescent tube someone kept in their garage for him since 2021. 

I hope @red5 does not take quite that long!, although its already been a year and a half! some sort of ETA would be much appreciated! 

 

 

[warren t claim]

11 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

Hah thats amusing! but I want to note how he is not pulled over for "driving a vehicle banned from the motorway" but simply is pulled over because he is going slow and obstructing traffic, as mentioned before a Model 70 is not actually banned from motorways like so many people think they, and they never have been banned either,  had he been keeping a good speed I doubt they would of bothered him,

 

its also a good example of how they where not really all colloquially known as "Invacars" as they are these days, the whole calling them all Invacars is actually a fairly recent phenomena, but back in the day in period they where never called that, most people just called Invalid Carriages, Invalid Trikes, Disability cars and so forth, sometimes even just called "Trikes" or "conveyances" 

but it is interesting to hear the police man make the comment even back in the 80's  of "not seen one of those for ages"

Model 70 in question is HPD692N  

I hope @red5 does not take quite that long!, although its already been a year and a half! some sort of ETA would be much appreciated! 

 

 

They obscure the reg number and bleep it out.

[LightBulbFun]

4 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

They obscure the reg number and bleep it out.

and I am un-obscuring it, feel free to read it out loud to yourself without the bleep this time for the full effect if you want LOL

[wuvvum]

23 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

its also a good example of how they where not really all colloquially known as "Invacars" as they are these days, the whole calling them all Invacars is actually a fairly recent phenomena

Depends what you mean by "recent" - they were known as Invacars when I first became aware of their existence, and that was over 40 years ago.

[captain_70s]

6 hours ago, warren t claim said:

They obscure the reg number and bleep it out.

Numberplate obfuscation award.

[barefoot]

7 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Depends what you mean by "recent" - they were known as Invacars when I first became aware of their existence, and that was over 40 years ago.

I always thought they were called invacares. 

[busmansholiday]

They were always called S**z Chariots in my youth.

[chadders]

8 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Depends what you mean by "recent" - they were known as Invacars when I first became aware of their existence, and that was over 40 years ago.

That was the polite name for them in my youth, a good 15 years or so before yours. The one almost invariably used was the one Busman quotes. 

[beko1987]

[plasticvandan]

Indeed,they were banned from motorways long before lbf was born.

For obvious reasons.

Why not contact red5 directly LBF? If I had been paying insurance for 2+ years in something I had never driven I would be wanting it immediately,perhaps one of the many London based classic specialists or the reliant dealer in tooting might be able to take it on,obviously you would have to pay them though.

[wuvvum]

7 hours ago, busmansholiday said:

They were always called S**z Chariots in my youth.

A chap I used to work with who was in a wheelchair was desperate for me to buy one so he could have a go - this is long before the TWC days.  He referred to them as "sp*zmobiles".

[red5]

I'm back in tomorrow. We'll see then. 

I'll update thread as well. 

[LightBulbFun]

34 minutes ago, plasticvandan said:

Indeed,they were banned from motorways long before lbf was born.

For obvious reasons.

no, the Model 70 was never banned from the motorway network, as the Model 70 (and all other full bodied carriages, apart from the Invacar Mk10) legally speaking are not Invalid Carriages when it comes to the RTA, RTRA and the RTOA

which is what I was pointing out in my comment, that he is pulled over simply for doing 30Mph on a 70Mph motorway, which you would get pulled over for in any car be it Invacar or Volvo LOL

17 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Depends what you mean by "recent" - they were known as Invacars when I first became aware of their existence, and that was over 40 years ago.

10 hours ago, busmansholiday said:

They were always called S**z Chariots in my youth.

2 hours ago, wuvvum said:

A chap I used to work with who was in a wheelchair was desperate for me to buy one so he could have a go - this is long before the TWC days.  He referred to them as "sp*zmobiles".

Its quite interesting to hear of the comments from people who where there in period

I suppose what i mean is in more formal/written settings, and in the 1960's-1970's when they where current, they where not called "Invacars" so generically, so much, certainly not by the people that used them and worked with them, at least from what I have read/been told about, so again the personal accounts are quite interesting  

as is said, and informally, they often had a whole range of rather rude nicknames, that I would recite but I rather not get myself banned LOL 

27 minutes ago, red5 said:

I'm back in tomorrow. We'll see then. 

I'll update thread as well. 

Awesome, Looking forward to it  

[plasticvandan]

Guess it was.a.hangup from when the motorways were created 11 years before the model 70,that said I know a lot of users were pulled over and escorted off the motorway.

Certainly remember my grandad who repaired them referred to them as invalid carriages,as he worked on all different models.