Kiltox Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I love the fact these are being saved but what an awful piece of British motoring/healthcare history they are. Really quite disgusting. I don’t remember ever seeing one but then I’m probably too young.
3VOM Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 How about turning the second one into a fun but useless trailer for the first?Set up backwards so the combination looks like a push-me-pull-you.
beko1987 Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I've taken a chunk out of the bodywork on the offside, Nae worries! Datsuncog and Slartibartfast 2
dollywobbler Posted November 28, 2017 Author Posted November 28, 2017 Set up backwards so the combination looks like a push-me-pull-you. I was wondering what it'd be like to drop the body from one onto a Morgan 3-wheeler chassis. Not sure the reverse-rake rear window would be helpful though...
richardthestag Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I was wondering what it'd be like to drop the body from one onto a Morgan 3-wheeler chassis. Not sure the reverse-rake rear window would be helpful though... reverse rake windscreen and addition of pantograph wiper Dick Cheeseburger, eddyramrod and uk_senator 3
Jon Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Don't think I've chipped in with a comment yet but I think these are great and I'm glad that so many have been saved. Hopefully, it should be a relatively painless overhaul and you'll be back buzzing about on the streets soon enough. Mrs_Jon & I started seeing each other in 2002 and I distinctly remember sighting one in York when we were together one day, so there was at least one shite stalwart locally holding onto one to the bitter end. I'd totally forgotten about them by that time but they were a core part of street scenery when I was growing up in the early-mid eighties but just like half pennies and those red and white stripey tents that workmen used to cover holes with, they disappeared overnight. 4 years ago, I brokered a deal with my cousin to buy a Fiat 500 locally, for £2500 (!!!). It was owned by this fella, who had previously owned a much more interesting machine: Yes, at least one Harper Mk6 Invalid Carriage made it to New Zealand! I know what it's called, from the correct identification back in 2013 by one Scott Barrett. Anyway, I think the owner was attracted to the Invacar, as he'd suffered a stroke in 1983, so perhaps it was easy to pilot. That said, it didn't stop him buying the 500 in the 1990's and driving it all over NZ, despite him having effectively lost the use of the right side of his body. The test drive of the 500 was truly an eye opener, as he drove a 3 pedal car with his left foot only - approaching a T Junction downhill and having to give way was particularly terrifying. Suffice to say, much use of 4th gear was utilised during the trip..... rob88h, strangeangel, Dick Cheeseburger and 6 others 9
Ben_O Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Do you know what the plans are for the other Invacars that were rescued Ian?
richardmorris Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 This is what Autoshite is all about - genuine shared love of something most people have gladly forgotten. A thought occurs in regard to telling an AC from an Invacar and I reckon the registration is the biggest clue as they all seem to have been registered in Essex or Surrey. Essex reg = Invacar made in Thundersley, Surrey reg = AC made in Thames Ditton. I’m not sure I have genuine love for these. More a horrified fascination of “what’s going to happen next.”I’m sure Michelin X tyres probably cost more than the vehicle! I am pleased that someone is resurrecting one or two though. trigger 1
Yoss Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Ha ha. I thought that number looked familiar. This is my Triumph boot key.Or locking fuel cap key, I can't remember now. Don't leave it parked anywhere near me. To be honest it'd probably open that abandoned Vitesse that's not abandoned on the other thread if you want me to pop up and move it round the corner. mercedade, Dick Cheeseburger, oldcars and 3 others 6
Honey Badger Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I love the fact these are being saved but what an awful piece of British motoring/healthcare history they are. Really quite disgusting. I don’t remember ever seeing one but then I’m probably too young. A dedicated national system to help the disabled become mobile at no cost to the user, it was probably years ahead of anywhere else in the world! Have a word with yourself and think about the type of cars being driven by the general public when these were being issued, don't judge them against modern cars and the current climate of seeing insult and discrimination in everything. A mix of ATF and acetone down the bores might help free things up, might smoke a bit when it starts up though! catsinthewelder, richardthestag, DeeJay and 10 others 13
Timewaster Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 FS880 fits all sorts of things. I've seen them on metal cabinets, key safes, toolboxes, garage doors... I used to have one on my keys for a document safe but it opened all sorts of stuff.
barrett Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I don't remember seeing that red Harper, Jon, but glad to be of service. Was that over at 'the other place'?I'd love a late Harper, what a sexy, seductive little minx of a car. I always thought the Model 70 rather too utilitarian, but the Harper was clearly drawn with a little panache. Do you know if that one is still knocking about? LightBulbFun 1
dollywobbler Posted November 28, 2017 Author Posted November 28, 2017 Do you know what the plans are for the other Invacars that were rescued Ian? No idea. The chap who has had them has a massive stash of parts and Invacars though, so perhaps he'll get some roadworthy again.
Jon Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Yeah, that Harper was identified at another motoring forum catering to low interest vehicles. But actually, I was able to remember the specifics of it being a Mk6 from a google image search of 'Harper Invacar', which showed this: Which was correctly identified as someone on IMCDB as identifying it as a Harper Invacar Mk6. They went by the user name of barrett! Anyway, I know it sold to someone in the south island before I bought the 500 but I'm not sure how long prior it had been passed on. Presumably it does still exist, as someone travelling that far over two separate islands will have known what they were buying. Also, I dug out my trusty copy of The Dumpy Book of Motors and Road Transport (passed on from my Dad, who had it from new): To get a photo of the line-up of current AC models of the time: One of those is not like the other. Slartibartfast, eddyramrod, Rusty_Rocket and 5 others 8
Timewaster Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I love the fact these are being saved but what an awful piece of British motoring/healthcare history they are. Really quite disgusting. I don’t remember ever seeing one but then I’m probably too young.I can't agree with you there. As Honey Badger points out this was the early 70s and a lot of people were still bumbling about in bubble cars and Bonds and such like. Lack of power steering and scarcity of automatics would have meant adapting 70s cars to enable the disabled to drive them would be difficult.The Invacar wasn't a million miles from the basic mainstream cars of the day and would have meant freedom and independence for thousands who had previously been reliant* on others for transport. Think of them as an early mobility scooter. 80s Batterycar mobility scooters were expensive, enormous and had a very limited range so weren't much of an option. richardthestag and mat_the_cat 2
eddyramrod Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I've got a 1960 edition of that Dumpy book! In fact I might even have two. I would say yours is an earlier edition, maybe 1958 or so?
dollywobbler Posted November 29, 2017 Author Posted November 29, 2017 OMG SLAMMED YO WELL KOOL INNIT BRUV. chodweaver, Eddie Honda, Twiggy and 18 others 21
junkyarddog Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 So cool it's covered in frost! Craig the Princess and Datsuncog 2
Sloth in a bowl Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 Cool? That's sub-zero dollywobbler 1
John F Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 OMG SLAMMED YO WELL KOOL INNIT BRUV. One Leg, Lose It...! PhilA, Sigmund Fraud, beko1987 and 5 others 8
steveo3002 Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 whats the score on the vintage tyre place....are they new repo tyres or sat on a shelf sinse the 1970s ?
dollywobbler Posted November 29, 2017 Author Posted November 29, 2017 whats the score on the vintage tyre place....are they new repo tyres or sat on a shelf sinse the 1970s ? They are brand new tyres. Michelin only started re-making this size in 2016. steveo3002 and stephen01 2
Sheefag Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 I'm afraid I've not read all 19 pages so apologies if this pic is a repost. When I was a kid, they were allowed into football grounds for the ultimate in disabled access - not sure how toilet requirements worked out though. eddyramrod, coalnotdole, tooSavvy and 7 others 10
John F Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 ...not sure how toilet requirements worked out though. I suspect a small puddle of wee would have formed on the ground under the Invacar in question. And then perhaps some newspaper spread on the seat in the case of a number 2, to be rolled up & thrown at the goalie if he's not perceived to be doing his job properly. bunglebus and Eddie Honda 2
UltraWomble Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 - not sure how toilet requirements worked out though. mk2_craig and uk_senator 2
Sheefag Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 How do you get a chest of drawers into one of those though? Tickman, djim, purplebargeken and 3 others 6
Pillock Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 My only memory of seeing one of these in the wild is Mansfield, some time in the mid 1980s, parked outside Tandy. I don't remember it being an odd sight, just can't remember anywhere else I've seen them.
timolloyd Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 The memory that connects all my sightings of these as a boy, is that they were always parked up on a pavement. Are they the only road registered vehicle that you were allowed to drive on the pavement?
dollywobbler Posted November 29, 2017 Author Posted November 29, 2017 The memory that connects all my sightings of these as a boy, is that they were always parked up on a pavement. Are they the only road registered vehicle that you were allowed to drive on the pavement? I'm not sure they were allowed to, but I imagine a blind eye was turned. These were the mobility scooters of their day.
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