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1 minute ago, GR8 PL8 M8 said:

Also sold in Europe as the Opel Speedster:

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Also planned was a Daewoo:

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And a Holden:

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...but neither made it to production.

Looking at those now I think it's the Vauxhall badge 'V' decal making me think it looks horrible, those other three grilles actually make it look pretty smart 

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On 5/13/2022 at 4:22 PM, SteersWithThrottle said:

The Military of Various Nations have used this kind of system for quite a long time, probably longer than most people would imagine (imagine pre-solid-state electronics era). The main issues with it are drift error, due to serious mechanical complexity and calibration precision, even on modern systems.

Here's a more technically detailed link for anyone that may be interested:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system

I remember visiting Japan a while back and being given a ride in a late 80s/ early 90s something or other (could have been a Toyota Crown) that was still fitted with one of these systems. If memory serves correctly, the map updates were done with a cassette tape.

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On 13/05/2022 at 01:56, lesapandre said:

How did the 'sat nav' work - short-wave radio and detectors along the roadsides?

 

On 13/05/2022 at 06:10, SteersWithThrottle said:

That would have required the installation of said detectors... I'd guess some kind of inertial gyroscopic system, hopefully with a method to zero it!

Having had a poke about on the internet, I'm not entirely sure that it worked at all.  The NRV II was a concept car that functioned after a fashion, however some of the devices within it were just for show.  The spec is bizarre too: radar speed sensors and methanol engine but no electric windows!  

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3 hours ago, RoverFolkUs said:

Looking at those now I think it's the Vauxhall badge 'V' decal making me think it looks horrible, those other three grilles actually make it look pretty smart 

It's a road-legal go-cart, built in the UK. What's not to like?

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11 hours ago, Missy Charm said:

 

Having had a poke about on the internet, I'm not entirely sure that it worked at all.  The NRV II was a concept car that functioned after a fashion, however some of the devices within it were just for show.  The spec is bizarre too: radar speed sensors and methanol engine but no electric windows!  

That's pretty normal for concept cars I think. I remember lusting after the Peugeot Proxima when I saw it in Autocar, but realistically it was probably powered by two sweaty blokes pushing it onto its display stand.

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Even if it is/was capable of moving under its own power, I seriously doubt its ability to achieve the claimed performance figures, or to drive round a track at the speed its specs and form imply.

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On 5/19/2022 at 1:26 PM, 3VOM said:

OK it's not a car but I've never seen one before.

 

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We all know a certain Miss Hubnut @dollywobbler wants a 'van. That would look very nice behind a Berlingo. Same height and not too heavy. I bet it only has a single 12n plug too.

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3 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

We all know a certain Miss Hubnut @dollywobbler wants a 'van. That would look very nice behind a Berlingo. Same height and not too heavy. I bet it only has a single 12n plug too.

and is less than 1100kg (which may or may not matter, not that I've looked anything up).

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22 hours ago, fatharris said:

Possibly the sportiest Daewoo ever.


Daewoo Speedster.

Possibly not...

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These were actually sold to the public and were made in the USA - as it's a Pontiac/Saturn underneath. Details here -

https://www.autoevolution.com/cars/daewoo-g2x-2006.html#aeng_daewoo-g2x-2006-20

https://www.carscoops.com/2007/04/seoul-show-daewoo-g2x-aka-saturn-sky-or/

And here's some more sporty Daewoo's - only concepts unfortunately -

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Daewoo Mirae, 1999.

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Daewoo Joyster (yes Joyster, calm down at the back), 1997.

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Daewoo Bucrane, 1995.

Plenty more Daewoo concepts here - https://oldconceptcars.com/category/1930-2004/daewoo/

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I got to see the MG Express before they were released as they used the car park to a new office block opposite where I was working for the MG publicity photos which is now the Highways Agency offices for Birmingham.

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No photograph but reading an early 90s classic car mag last night I saw a classified advert for a "Lotus Eclat Two Position Convertible". It was also described as the only one built but didn't say who was the only one to build it.  A quick goggle throws up nowt. Any ideas? 

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On 5/19/2022 at 7:33 PM, GR8 PL8 M8 said:

Also sold in Europe as the Opel Speedster:

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Also planned was a Daewoo:

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And a Holden:

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...but neither made it to production.

 

I preferred the Saturn Sky variant

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But not the Pontiac solstice with its Hannibal Lector style grills

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21 minutes ago, JimH said:

No photograph but reading an early 90s classic car mag last night I saw a classified advert for a "Lotus Eclat Two Position Convertible". It was also described as the only one built but didn't say who was the only one to build it.  A quick goggle throws up nowt. Any ideas? 

It’s not someone getting a bit carried away describing a Riviera is it? They had a big lift out sunroof  that was half of the roof panel.

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40 minutes ago, Steve79 said:

 

I preferred the Saturn Sky variant

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But not the Pontiac solstice with its Hannibal Lector style grills

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The VX220 and its many derivatives is from the same family as the Elise and its many derivatives. 

The Pontiac Solstice and it's many derivatives was a very different (and very much more conventional) platform. 

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33 minutes ago, NorfolkNWeigh said:

It’s not someone getting a bit carried away describing a Riviera is it? They had a big lift out sunroof  that was half of the roof panel.

Possibly but the advert claimed it was the only one. There were at least a few Rivieras built. 

However, this was the early 90s when everyone was piling in and buying into any old shite so it's possible the advert is complete bollocks. 

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11 hours ago, JimH said:

The VX220 and its many derivatives is from the same family as the Elise and its many derivatives. 

The Pontiac Solstice and it's many derivatives was a very different (and very much more conventional) platform. 

All Vauxhall's are shit 😂

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