RoverFolkUs Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 minute ago, GR8 PL8 M8 said: Also sold in Europe as the Opel Speedster: Also planned was a Daewoo: And a Holden: ...but neither made it to production. Looking at those now I think it's the Vauxhall badge 'V' decal making me think it looks horrible, those other three grilles actually make it look pretty smart Low Horatio gearbox, Ted Eggs and GR8 PL8 M8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Mondays Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/13/2022 at 4:22 PM, SteersWithThrottle said: The Military of Various Nations have used this kind of system for quite a long time, probably longer than most people would imagine (imagine pre-solid-state electronics era). The main issues with it are drift error, due to serious mechanical complexity and calibration precision, even on modern systems. Here's a more technically detailed link for anyone that may be interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system I remember visiting Japan a while back and being given a ride in a late 80s/ early 90s something or other (could have been a Toyota Crown) that was still fitted with one of these systems. If memory serves correctly, the map updates were done with a cassette tape. SteersWithThrottle and Dave_Q 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Charm Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 13/05/2022 at 01:56, lesapandre said: How did the 'sat nav' work - short-wave radio and detectors along the roadsides? On 13/05/2022 at 06:10, SteersWithThrottle said: That would have required the installation of said detectors... I'd guess some kind of inertial gyroscopic system, hopefully with a method to zero it! Having had a poke about on the internet, I'm not entirely sure that it worked at all. The NRV II was a concept car that functioned after a fashion, however some of the devices within it were just for show. The spec is bizarre too: radar speed sensors and methanol engine but no electric windows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Charmer Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Much tidier with a Holden badge. RoverFolkUs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 3 hours ago, RoverFolkUs said: Looking at those now I think it's the Vauxhall badge 'V' decal making me think it looks horrible, those other three grilles actually make it look pretty smart It's a road-legal go-cart, built in the UK. What's not to like? RoverFolkUs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverFolkUs Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Given the unanimous opinions perhaps I'll raise my rose tinted glasses and think better of Vauxhall VX220 Roadster from now on bunglebus and Low Horatio gearbox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverFolkUs Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 30 minutes ago, Snake Charmer said: Much tidier with a Holden badge. Definitely, I think that really helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteersWithThrottle Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 11 hours ago, Missy Charm said: Having had a poke about on the internet, I'm not entirely sure that it worked at all. The NRV II was a concept car that functioned after a fashion, however some of the devices within it were just for show. The spec is bizarre too: radar speed sensors and methanol engine but no electric windows! That's pretty normal for concept cars I think. I remember lusting after the Peugeot Proxima when I saw it in Autocar, but realistically it was probably powered by two sweaty blokes pushing it onto its display stand. Even if it is/was capable of moving under its own power, I seriously doubt its ability to achieve the claimed performance figures, or to drive round a track at the speed its specs and form imply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndaBoss Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Not exactly a car per se but the W638 Mercedes V Class/ Vito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieInExile Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Iirc despite being a van they still sold those V Classes at a premium compared with the likes of the Galaxy and Voyager! Low Horatio gearbox and AndaBoss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 5/19/2022 at 1:26 PM, 3VOM said: OK it's not a car but I've never seen one before. We all know a certain Miss Hubnut @dollywobbler wants a 'van. That would look very nice behind a Berlingo. Same height and not too heavy. I bet it only has a single 12n plug too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3VOM Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, Remspoor said: We all know a certain Miss Hubnut @dollywobbler wants a 'van. That would look very nice behind a Berlingo. Same height and not too heavy. I bet it only has a single 12n plug too. and is less than 1100kg (which may or may not matter, not that I've looked anything up). Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J R Hartley Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Argentinian market VW 1500, a rebadged Avenger/Dodge 1500. Low Horatio gearbox, lesapandre, warren t claim and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_FM Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, J R Hartley said: Argentinian market VW 1500, a rebadged Avenger/Dodge 1500. The Latin Americans have a lot of odd badge engineered cars, Australia had a glut due to the Button scheme. J R Hartley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Guru Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 hours ago, Remspoor said: We all know a certain Miss Hubnut @dollywobbler wants a 'van. That would look very nice behind a Berlingo. Same height and not too heavy. I bet it only has a single 12n plug too. I can only assume it sleeps one , diagonally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 hours ago, Metal Guru said: I can only assume it sleeps one , diagonally. No you hang like a bat😁 martc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castros_bro Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Rasa artdjones and Remspoor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Possibly the sportiest Daewoo ever.Daewoo Speedster. Austat, AnnoyingPentium, RayMK and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverFolkUs Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, fatharris said: Possibly the sportiest Daewoo ever. Daewoo Speedster. I love it! Just discussed above, and I caused a lot of upset by calling the Vauxhall version hideous 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 22 hours ago, fatharris said: Possibly the sportiest Daewoo ever. Daewoo Speedster. Possibly not... These were actually sold to the public and were made in the USA - as it's a Pontiac/Saturn underneath. Details here - https://www.autoevolution.com/cars/daewoo-g2x-2006.html#aeng_daewoo-g2x-2006-20 https://www.carscoops.com/2007/04/seoul-show-daewoo-g2x-aka-saturn-sky-or/ And here's some more sporty Daewoo's - only concepts unfortunately - Daewoo Mirae, 1999. Daewoo Joyster (yes Joyster, calm down at the back), 1997. Daewoo Bucrane, 1995. Plenty more Daewoo concepts here - https://oldconceptcars.com/category/1930-2004/daewoo/ bunglebus, Yoss, NorfolkNWeigh and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverFolkUs Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Today I realized that the MG ZR Van is called an MG Express... I was well aware of these things existing and had heard the term "express" before but it hadn't clicked with me that the van version was not actaully called a ZR! Low Horatio gearbox, Dyslexic Viking and AnnoyingPentium 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muniphobia Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I got to see the MG Express before they were released as they used the car park to a new office block opposite where I was working for the MG publicity photos which is now the Highways Agency offices for Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 No photograph but reading an early 90s classic car mag last night I saw a classified advert for a "Lotus Eclat Two Position Convertible". It was also described as the only one built but didn't say who was the only one to build it. A quick goggle throws up nowt. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve79 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 On 5/19/2022 at 7:33 PM, GR8 PL8 M8 said: Also sold in Europe as the Opel Speedster: Also planned was a Daewoo: And a Holden: ...but neither made it to production. I preferred the Saturn Sky variant But not the Pontiac solstice with its Hannibal Lector style grills Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNWeigh Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 21 minutes ago, JimH said: No photograph but reading an early 90s classic car mag last night I saw a classified advert for a "Lotus Eclat Two Position Convertible". It was also described as the only one built but didn't say who was the only one to build it. A quick goggle throws up nowt. Any ideas? It’s not someone getting a bit carried away describing a Riviera is it? They had a big lift out sunroof that was half of the roof panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 40 minutes ago, Steve79 said: I preferred the Saturn Sky variant But not the Pontiac solstice with its Hannibal Lector style grills The VX220 and its many derivatives is from the same family as the Elise and its many derivatives. The Pontiac Solstice and it's many derivatives was a very different (and very much more conventional) platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 33 minutes ago, NorfolkNWeigh said: It’s not someone getting a bit carried away describing a Riviera is it? They had a big lift out sunroof that was half of the roof panel. Possibly but the advert claimed it was the only one. There were at least a few Rivieras built. However, this was the early 90s when everyone was piling in and buying into any old shite so it's possible the advert is complete bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 10 hours ago, JimH said: Possibly but the advert claimed it was the only one. There were at least a few Rivieras built. However, this was the early 90s when everyone was piling in and buying into any old shite so it's possible the advert is complete bollocks. So same as now. garethj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve79 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 11 hours ago, JimH said: The VX220 and its many derivatives is from the same family as the Elise and its many derivatives. The Pontiac Solstice and it's many derivatives was a very different (and very much more conventional) platform. All Vauxhall's are shit 😂 RoverFolkUs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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