The grumpy thread

[Talbot]

Talc itself is not healthy at all (even without asbestos in it).  The body struggles to remove anything that has been inhaled.  I would be using force-fed fresh-air breathing apparatus around it.

The fact that it's available for sale and is puffed over just about everyone (including the very young) strikes me as absurd.

https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1773.pdf

[iainrcz]

No one I know of at work even uses a paper dust mask when dealing with it.

We can get through multiple tons in a 12 hour shift depending on filler percent of the job. The highest we run is around 73% which is barium.

 

[Metal Guru]

51 minutes ago, iainrcz said:

I've just recently learnt that talc, as in talcum powder, can contain Asbestos.

We use a lot of talc at work as a filler/bulker in plastics.

I'm thinking I need to raise it as a concern, I'd rather not end up with Cancer.

My Dad covered  himself in talc every morning. Didn’t get cancer. I guess he was lucky like people who smoke 60 a day and don’t get it either.

The fact that it is very small particles that can get anywhere and through a lot of masks is probably more concerning than the trace of asbestos.

[High Jetter]

5 hours ago, iainrcz said:

No one I know of at work even uses a paper dust mask when dealing with it.

We can get through multiple tons in a 12 hour shift depending on filler percent of the job. The highest we run is around 73% which is barium.

 

You're not in the uk, iirc? That sounds bad, not allowed here, I reckon. Paper mask probably not enough.

[iainrcz]

31 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

You're not in the uk, iirc? That sounds bad, not allowed here, I reckon. Paper mask probably not enough.

Yes, glorious Grimsby 😆

I'm going to speak to my team leader on Friday, see what he says.

We do have access to better masks.

[High Jetter]

Uh, forren. Good luck

[paulplom]

20 hours ago, jakebullet said:

 Was visiting the delights of newbiggin by the sea. Why eye man, would you like your window broken pet?

I'm working there today at some point. Not my favourite place.

[horriblemercedes]

15 hours ago, iainrcz said:

I've just recently learnt that talc, as in talcum powder, can contain Asbestos.

We use a lot of talc at work as a filler/bulker in plastics.

I'm thinking I need to raise it as a concern, I'd rather not end up with Cancer.

Excuse my ignorance but I realise I've never known this - what is the purpose of talc in the household?

My family never used it so I've never really known.

I've seen people in films sprinkle it on themselves after a shower, but for what reason?

[New POD]

9 hours ago, iainrcz said:

Yes, glorious Grimsby 😆

I'm going to speak to my team leader on Friday, see what he says.

We do have access to better masks.

Ask to see the material safety data sheets provided by the manufacturer. 

Scratch that. Obtain them yourself. Probably you will be able to down load off interweb. If not there should be a phone number on the container and the supplier should be able to email it to you. 

This should tell you everything you need to know about handling it. 

Then go back and ask for the MSD and ask to see the COSHH assessment.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/nanotechnology/coshh.htm#:~:text=COSHH is the law that,to health (risk assessment)%3B

If they haven't got both or either you need to question if they give a stuff. And let hse know. 

[iainrcz]

1 hour ago, horriblemercedes said:

Excuse my ignorance but I realise I've never known this - what is the purpose of talc in the household?

My family never used it so I've never really known.

I've seen people in films sprinkle it on themselves after a shower, but for what reason?

I think it's like a "smoothing" thing, anti chafe. Plus most are perfumed, so you don't stink.

[myglaren]

Quote

Johnson & Johnson will end global sales of baby powder containing the mineral talc in 2023, switching to a formulation based on corn starch.

The company is facing over 40 000 lawsuits in the US alleging that baby powder contaminated with asbestos caused ovarian cancer or mesothelioma. But Johnson & Johnson did not attribute the switch to that controversy, calling it a “commercial decision” that “will help simplify our product offerings, deliver sustainable innovation, and meet the needs of our consumers, customers, and evolving global trends.”

“Corn starch based Johnson’s Baby Powder is already sold in countries around the world,” the company said in a statement announcing the change. “Our position on the safety of our cosmetic talc remains unchanged,” the statement continued. “We stand firmly behind the decades of independent scientific analysis by medical experts around the world that …

From the BMJ

My ex-DIL is fairly high up in J&J.

[horriblemercedes]

3 minutes ago, myglaren said:

From the BMJ

My ex-DIL is fairly high up in J&J.

Is she Johnson or Johnson?

[New POD]

2 hours ago, horriblemercedes said:

Excuse my ignorance but I realise I've never known this - what is the purpose of talc in the household?

My family never used it so I've never really known.

I've seen people in films sprinkle it on themselves after a shower, but for what reason?

Nans the world over used to douse babies and children in it.  My wife's nan used so much on herself that the bathroom floor was a slip hazard. It does make your skin feel soft. 

[horriblemercedes]

29 minutes ago, New POD said:

Nans the world over used to douse babies and children in it.  My wife's nan used so much on herself that the bathroom floor was a slip hazard. It does make your skin feel soft. 

I know that, but for what purpose? Just to make skin feel soft?

[Datsuncog]

Talc has a drying effect too - as a kid I was told to use it on my feet after getting showered to avoid athletes' foot.

I used to keep a container of it in my gym bag, as a puff or two after towelling myself off post-shower did make me feel a bit less clammy before wriggling into my clothes.

That said, I only finished the container (purchased in 1996) a few weeks ago, so I'm not overly concerned that I've exposed myself to lethal levels of asbestos over the past 27 years...

[cort1977]

On 6/7/2023 at 9:27 AM, calebaaront said:

Not an awful place to have a breakdown. Suspected dirt in the carb.

Were you at the RR Weekender?  Think we may have met briefly unless there's another Trabi with a DDR plate.  Which there could well be I suppose...

[cobblers]

Massive big order going out from my company, 53x control units. Months and months of work.

Sent them on a pallet, paid £100 extra to get it insured because the total value is £17k. Shitting myself about sending it out because we really can't afford to lose that!

Pallet was collected at about 1PM.

Two hours later, I get an email 

Quote

Unfortunately, LCD Screens, due to their fragile nature, fall under our restricted items list and are something we cannot insure. We can carry out the shipment, just not insure it I’m afraid. Alternatively, there are freight insurance companies that can cover this type of goods, however, ours cannot.

If you have further queries, please don’t hesitate to contact us.

Have a lovely day!

Alexandra

Thanks for letting me know Alexandra! Have a lovely day too! It's only a few hours fucking late!

So now I've got seventeen flipping grands worth of stuff being ferried across the country without insurance and my arse will be going like a rabbits nose for 24-48 hours.

 

[artdjones]

2 hours ago, cobblers said:

Massive big order going out from my company, 53x control units. Months and months of work.

Sent them on a pallet, paid £100 extra to get it insured because the total value is £17k. Shitting myself about sending it out because we really can't afford to lose that!

Pallet was collected at about 1PM.

Two hours later, I get an email 

Thanks for letting me know Alexandra! Have a lovely day too! It's only a few hours fucking late!

So now I've got seventeen flipping grands worth of stuff being ferried across the country without insurance and my arse will be going like a rabbits nose for 24-48 hours.

 

It's almost impossible to believe that someone as stupid as Alexandra is allowed out. The initial foul up is bad enough, but to put "Have a lovely day"........

[RoverFolkUs]

Talc is useful for finding oil leaks and water ingress!

[calebaaront]

7 hours ago, cort1977 said:

Were you at the RR Weekender?  Think we may have met briefly unless there's another Trabi with a DDR plate.  Which there could well be I suppose...

Wasn't me unfortunately 

[High Jetter]

3 hours ago, cobblers said:

Massive big order going out from my company, 53x control units. Months and months of work.

Sent them on a pallet, paid £100 extra to get it insured because the total value is £17k. Shitting myself about sending it out because we really can't afford to lose that!

Pallet was collected at about 1PM.

Two hours later, I get an email 

Thanks for letting me know Alexandra! Have a lovely day too! It's only a few hours fucking late!

So now I've got seventeen flipping grands worth of stuff being ferried across the country without insurance and my arse will be going like a rabbits nose for 24-48 hours.

 

I'd have driven it myself, after all that effort. Or used @Popsicle

[cobblers]

15 hours ago, High Jetter said:

I'd have driven it myself, after all that effort. Or used @Popsicle

I don't have good in transit cover myself (my van is a transporter not a transit, hohohoho😅) so I can't really deliver stuff. It was a bit last minute.

My fault for describing them as "LCD Control panels" rather than just "control panel" really!

[loserone]

I think given they won't insure them, but have already taken them, they should probably be offering to bring them back carefully and give you a full refund 

[Bren]

Attended the local two wheeled emporium to get oil for the bike.

I only ever get parts from here - myself and a few others I know have been on the receiving end of their hamfistedness - duplo would probably be out of their comfort zone.

I hadn't been for a few years. Only one person in at a time - rona restrictions still appear to be in place. Somebody already in there and no sign of staff. So I waited outside for a bit then left.

 

[TataBobu]

On 6/8/2023 at 12:55 PM, horriblemercedes said:

I know that, but for what purpose? Just to make skin feel soft?

Not sure you can relate, but here goes: you know how in summer, when it's 40 degrees in the shade and you wear shorts and t-shirts your thighs and upper arms develop a reddish rash from chaffing against each other/against the torso or against sweated clothes? Talcum powder takes care of that either by preventing it if you apply it before, or by soothing it and allowing to heal if you apply it after.

[horriblemercedes]

1 minute ago, TataBobu said:

Not sure you can relate, but here goes: you know how in summer, when it's 40 degrees in the shade and you wear shorts and t-shirts your thighs and upper arms develop a reddish rash from chaffing against each other/against the torso or against sweated clothes? Talcum powder takes care of that either by preventing it if you apply it before, or by soothing it and allowing to heal if you apply it after.

Ah ok, yes, I have had that.

 

Not sure I can relate? Do you think I'm the Duke of York or something?

[TataBobu]

I though you're in UK, not in a country where 40 degrees is felt at 10 PM in July almost each year.

[TataBobu]

I see I made it sound worse than it is: just in the city center (București), full of concrete and with high buildings blocking any breeze, and almost each year there is a day or two when you'll see the street thermometers displaying 40 degrees at 10 PM. Usually it's just around 30.

[PhilA]

Was on the road yesterday evening, just coming up to cross the intersection by the bridge. I've got the green (it had been on for a while at that point) and a guy in a modern Jeep runs the red light in front of me.

Needless to say, my brakes were tested and thankfully proved to be good.

Comedy nosedive, screeching tires and a cloud of smoke. Luckily I came to a halt before I got to his path. 

 

I think he made the assumption that the green on the other side of the bridge he had just gone through (fast) applied to the intersection on the other side, which it does not.

 

Narrow escape, glad I was paying attention.

[Remspoor]

2 hours ago, PhilA said:

Was on the road yesterday evening, just coming up to cross the intersection by the bridge. I've got the green (it had been on for a while at that point) and a guy in a modern Jeep runs the red light in front of me.

That sort of thing seems to be a running theame when you watch dash-cam footage from the USA.