The grumpy thread

[calebaaront]

Not an awful place to have a breakdown. Suspected dirt in the carb.

[Metal Guru]

40 minutes ago, calebaaront said:

Not an awful place to have a breakdown. Suspected dirt in the carb.

Reminds me of a card I saw the other day. Car broken down. Women says “ can you fix it?” Man replies “just crap in the carb”Woman , “ well , ok if you think it will help!”

[jakebullet]

12 hours ago, cobblers said:

Where have you gone on holiday? Hull? 😱

 Was visiting the delights of newbiggin by the sea. Why eye man, would you like your window broken pet?

[Talbot]

13 hours ago, RoverFolkUs said:

The vacuum cycle is not leak detection despite what anyone says. It is to purge the system of moisture. 

Yes, it serves as a leak test, and a lot of machines call it a leak test for a couple of minutes after the vacuum, but anything other than a completely blown seal or a hole somewhere which would fail the vacuum and indeed render the system "not airtight" may still pass the vacuum test as it'll just suck in whatever may be leaking. 

The only adequate leak detection is by pressurising the system and blowing out any weak points. Some leaks don't even show until 4/5/6 bar 

This this this.  Sooo many aircon people don't understand the pressures that can be present in an AC system.  200psi is not unusual in a hot condenser, and even when the system is at rest there will be 60+psi in there.  A vacuum test is a crude leak test.  I've known systems that will hold vacuum for hours, but then leak on pressure.  Had exactly this on my E300 just recently.

The only decent way to test is with dry nitrogen (or in theory, dry air will do, but getting the required -80c dewpoint is not easy). 

[cobblers]

1 minute ago, Talbot said:

This this this.  Sooo many aircon people don't understand the pressures that can be present in an AC system.  200psi is not unusual in a hot condenser, and even when the system is at rest there will be 60+psi in there.  A vacuum test is a crude leak test.  I've known systems that will hold vacuum for hours, but then leak on pressure.  Had exactly this on my E300 just recently.

The only decent way to test is with dry nitrogen (or in theory, dry air will do, but getting the required -80c dewpoint is not easy). 

Not to mention that if there's a nick in a seal, there's a flipping decent chance that the vacuum will pull the leak closed (I suppose the atmospheric pressure will actually push it closed etcs etcs)

The automatic machines pull and hold a vacuum and say "fail" if it doesn't hold a vacuum, not to say that the system is OK, but as a you say, a very crude way of preventing people just pumping gas into systems with whacking great holes in them.

[Talbot]

How would you get this:

In here:

?

 

[cobblers]

10 minutes ago, Talbot said:

How would you get this:

In here:

?

 

It'd start with a kiss from a rose and escalate into something much more frenzied one the lid was off the poppers

[iainrcz]

I've just recently learnt that talc, as in talcum powder, can contain Asbestos.

We use a lot of talc at work as a filler/bulker in plastics.

I'm thinking I need to raise it as a concern, I'd rather not end up with Cancer.

[Talbot]

Talc itself is not healthy at all (even without asbestos in it).  The body struggles to remove anything that has been inhaled.  I would be using force-fed fresh-air breathing apparatus around it.

The fact that it's available for sale and is puffed over just about everyone (including the very young) strikes me as absurd.

https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1773.pdf

[iainrcz]

No one I know of at work even uses a paper dust mask when dealing with it.

We can get through multiple tons in a 12 hour shift depending on filler percent of the job. The highest we run is around 73% which is barium.

 

[Metal Guru]

51 minutes ago, iainrcz said:

I've just recently learnt that talc, as in talcum powder, can contain Asbestos.

We use a lot of talc at work as a filler/bulker in plastics.

I'm thinking I need to raise it as a concern, I'd rather not end up with Cancer.

My Dad covered  himself in talc every morning. Didn’t get cancer. I guess he was lucky like people who smoke 60 a day and don’t get it either.

The fact that it is very small particles that can get anywhere and through a lot of masks is probably more concerning than the trace of asbestos.

[High Jetter]

5 hours ago, iainrcz said:

No one I know of at work even uses a paper dust mask when dealing with it.

We can get through multiple tons in a 12 hour shift depending on filler percent of the job. The highest we run is around 73% which is barium.

 

You're not in the uk, iirc? That sounds bad, not allowed here, I reckon. Paper mask probably not enough.

[iainrcz]

31 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

You're not in the uk, iirc? That sounds bad, not allowed here, I reckon. Paper mask probably not enough.

Yes, glorious Grimsby 😆

I'm going to speak to my team leader on Friday, see what he says.

We do have access to better masks.

[High Jetter]

Uh, forren. Good luck

[paulplom]

20 hours ago, jakebullet said:

 Was visiting the delights of newbiggin by the sea. Why eye man, would you like your window broken pet?

I'm working there today at some point. Not my favourite place.

[horriblemercedes]

15 hours ago, iainrcz said:

I've just recently learnt that talc, as in talcum powder, can contain Asbestos.

We use a lot of talc at work as a filler/bulker in plastics.

I'm thinking I need to raise it as a concern, I'd rather not end up with Cancer.

Excuse my ignorance but I realise I've never known this - what is the purpose of talc in the household?

My family never used it so I've never really known.

I've seen people in films sprinkle it on themselves after a shower, but for what reason?

[New POD]

9 hours ago, iainrcz said:

Yes, glorious Grimsby 😆

I'm going to speak to my team leader on Friday, see what he says.

We do have access to better masks.

Ask to see the material safety data sheets provided by the manufacturer. 

Scratch that. Obtain them yourself. Probably you will be able to down load off interweb. If not there should be a phone number on the container and the supplier should be able to email it to you. 

This should tell you everything you need to know about handling it. 

Then go back and ask for the MSD and ask to see the COSHH assessment.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/nanotechnology/coshh.htm#:~:text=COSHH is the law that,to health (risk assessment)%3B

If they haven't got both or either you need to question if they give a stuff. And let hse know. 

[iainrcz]

1 hour ago, horriblemercedes said:

Excuse my ignorance but I realise I've never known this - what is the purpose of talc in the household?

My family never used it so I've never really known.

I've seen people in films sprinkle it on themselves after a shower, but for what reason?

I think it's like a "smoothing" thing, anti chafe. Plus most are perfumed, so you don't stink.

[myglaren]

Quote

Johnson & Johnson will end global sales of baby powder containing the mineral talc in 2023, switching to a formulation based on corn starch.

The company is facing over 40 000 lawsuits in the US alleging that baby powder contaminated with asbestos caused ovarian cancer or mesothelioma. But Johnson & Johnson did not attribute the switch to that controversy, calling it a “commercial decision” that “will help simplify our product offerings, deliver sustainable innovation, and meet the needs of our consumers, customers, and evolving global trends.”

“Corn starch based Johnson’s Baby Powder is already sold in countries around the world,” the company said in a statement announcing the change. “Our position on the safety of our cosmetic talc remains unchanged,” the statement continued. “We stand firmly behind the decades of independent scientific analysis by medical experts around the world that …

From the BMJ

My ex-DIL is fairly high up in J&J.

[horriblemercedes]

3 minutes ago, myglaren said:

From the BMJ

My ex-DIL is fairly high up in J&J.

Is she Johnson or Johnson?

[New POD]

2 hours ago, horriblemercedes said:

Excuse my ignorance but I realise I've never known this - what is the purpose of talc in the household?

My family never used it so I've never really known.

I've seen people in films sprinkle it on themselves after a shower, but for what reason?

Nans the world over used to douse babies and children in it.  My wife's nan used so much on herself that the bathroom floor was a slip hazard. It does make your skin feel soft. 

[horriblemercedes]

29 minutes ago, New POD said:

Nans the world over used to douse babies and children in it.  My wife's nan used so much on herself that the bathroom floor was a slip hazard. It does make your skin feel soft. 

I know that, but for what purpose? Just to make skin feel soft?

[Datsuncog]

Talc has a drying effect too - as a kid I was told to use it on my feet after getting showered to avoid athletes' foot.

I used to keep a container of it in my gym bag, as a puff or two after towelling myself off post-shower did make me feel a bit less clammy before wriggling into my clothes.

That said, I only finished the container (purchased in 1996) a few weeks ago, so I'm not overly concerned that I've exposed myself to lethal levels of asbestos over the past 27 years...

[cort1977]

On 6/7/2023 at 9:27 AM, calebaaront said:

Not an awful place to have a breakdown. Suspected dirt in the carb.

Were you at the RR Weekender?  Think we may have met briefly unless there's another Trabi with a DDR plate.  Which there could well be I suppose...

[cobblers]

Massive big order going out from my company, 53x control units. Months and months of work.

Sent them on a pallet, paid £100 extra to get it insured because the total value is £17k. Shitting myself about sending it out because we really can't afford to lose that!

Pallet was collected at about 1PM.

Two hours later, I get an email 

Quote

Unfortunately, LCD Screens, due to their fragile nature, fall under our restricted items list and are something we cannot insure. We can carry out the shipment, just not insure it I’m afraid. Alternatively, there are freight insurance companies that can cover this type of goods, however, ours cannot.

If you have further queries, please don’t hesitate to contact us.

Have a lovely day!

Alexandra

Thanks for letting me know Alexandra! Have a lovely day too! It's only a few hours fucking late!

So now I've got seventeen flipping grands worth of stuff being ferried across the country without insurance and my arse will be going like a rabbits nose for 24-48 hours.

 

[artdjones]

2 hours ago, cobblers said:

Massive big order going out from my company, 53x control units. Months and months of work.

Sent them on a pallet, paid £100 extra to get it insured because the total value is £17k. Shitting myself about sending it out because we really can't afford to lose that!

Pallet was collected at about 1PM.

Two hours later, I get an email 

Thanks for letting me know Alexandra! Have a lovely day too! It's only a few hours fucking late!

So now I've got seventeen flipping grands worth of stuff being ferried across the country without insurance and my arse will be going like a rabbits nose for 24-48 hours.

 

It's almost impossible to believe that someone as stupid as Alexandra is allowed out. The initial foul up is bad enough, but to put "Have a lovely day"........

[RoverFolkUs]

Talc is useful for finding oil leaks and water ingress!

[calebaaront]

7 hours ago, cort1977 said:

Were you at the RR Weekender?  Think we may have met briefly unless there's another Trabi with a DDR plate.  Which there could well be I suppose...

Wasn't me unfortunately 

[High Jetter]

3 hours ago, cobblers said:

Massive big order going out from my company, 53x control units. Months and months of work.

Sent them on a pallet, paid £100 extra to get it insured because the total value is £17k. Shitting myself about sending it out because we really can't afford to lose that!

Pallet was collected at about 1PM.

Two hours later, I get an email 

Thanks for letting me know Alexandra! Have a lovely day too! It's only a few hours fucking late!

So now I've got seventeen flipping grands worth of stuff being ferried across the country without insurance and my arse will be going like a rabbits nose for 24-48 hours.

 

I'd have driven it myself, after all that effort. Or used @Popsicle

[cobblers]

15 hours ago, High Jetter said:

I'd have driven it myself, after all that effort. Or used @Popsicle

I don't have good in transit cover myself (my van is a transporter not a transit, hohohoho😅) so I can't really deliver stuff. It was a bit last minute.

My fault for describing them as "LCD Control panels" rather than just "control panel" really!