The grumpy thread

[loserone]

9 minutes ago, Talbot said:

And yet again... point out to me where I mentioned anything about "freeman on the land".

Clearly you didn't.  But not paying rent is an uncomfortable concept for anyone with a sense of fairness.

[Talbot]

1 minute ago, loserone said:

Clearly you didn't.  But not paying rent is an uncomfortable concept for anyone with a sense of fairness.

I *absolutely* agree.   But, if the Tennancy isn't worth the paper it's written on, and the landlord is a grade-A bellend, it's a viable option.  For some people, in the right circumstances,

I'm just pissed off that rather than enter into a sensible discussion, a certain man of Sierras decided to make the comment he did.  And I took the bait.

[sierraman]

13 minutes ago, Talbot said:

Anyone who takes the advice of a random internet stranger without looking into things further is asking for trouble.  It might be damaging for some people, but I know of at least two people who had no real tennency agreement, who stopped paying rent, took about 9 months to be evicted, and saved up during that time.   Both ended up with enough cash to afford a deposit on a mortgage.  No ill-effects of not paying rent for that period, other than a pissed-off landlord, who deserved everything they got as they hadn't conducted the rental legally and the rentals were utter crap.

And yet again... point out to me where I mentioned anything about "freeman on the land".

If you cannot see that in the statements you’ve made about going off piste and deciding to make your own rules up about paying the rent then I’m not sure I could explain it any more simply for you. 

[Talbot]

1 minute ago, sierraman said:

If you cannot see that in the statements you’ve made about going off piste and deciding to make your own rules up about paying the rent then I’m not sure I could explain it any more simply for you. 

Seriously?  I'm not "making up my own rules" here.  If you can't see from the ensuing discussion that it could be a viable option for someone in the right circumstances, then I'm not sure I could explain it any more simply for you.

[SH1TE]

57 minutes ago, loserone said:

Fuck the system

Loopholes are wonderful and playing by the rules guaranteed to get fucked over. 

Landlord forums should be vital research into dragging it out if so wished- landlords have actually paid to root out tenants with cash sums. 

[GMcD]

I wish all these absolute fucks would go die in a fire. At least try and spell correctly on your fraudulent listing.

[Split_Pin]

7 minutes ago, GMcD said:

I wish all these absolute fucks would go die in a fire. At least try and spell correctly on your fraudulent listing.

The worst thing about that scam is how much it insults my intelligence. If I'm going to get ripped off,  I at least expect to be flattered with some craft and ingenuity. 

[Datsuncog]

But but but... the ad says '100% Best', 'Verified' and 'Buy With Confidence' on it.

How could it possibly be a scam?

🤔

[paulplom]

16 hours ago, SH1TE said:

Going on a holiday to some webbed foot shithole holiday park

finlake lodges it's called so bound to be a shed/static caravan or other shithole. 

Thankfully didn't  have to get wallet out-so I can invest it in alcohol and piss off home after a day or so leaving partner and kids to "enjoy it"  with other family members. 

Seems load of hassle for feck all. 

Christ. They'll be pleased when you fuck off.

[Metal Guru]

I have only had foreign tenants so far and apart from having to translate “no smoking” in Turkish, they have been model tenants.. In return any problems are dealt with immediately, no one is moaning about no hot water for weeks on end etc. 

  I think it’s because in most countries no one really buys a property until there are nearing retirement and renting is the norm.

Here we see it as somehow second class and the attitude is “fuck the landlord, he’s just screwing us”. So what if we don’t pay the rent, he’s richer than us , he can afford to subsidise us, whereas they may well rely on the rent as part of a pension etc.

Not saying all landlords are perfect, just saying they’re not all rich bastards sitting there counting their loot.

[sierraman]

58 minutes ago, Datsuncog said:

But but but... the ad says '100% Best', 'Verified' and 'Buy With Confidence' on it.

How could it possibly be a scam?

🤔

Likewise if it says ‘Government Backed’ then you can have confidence. 🤣

[Lacquer Peel]

6 minutes ago, Metal Guru said:

whereas they may well rely on the rent as part of a pension etc.

Sounds like parasite behaviour to me. 

[Talbot]

I think the "all landlords are arseholes" perception comes from the fact that good landlords (of which there are many) don't get anywhere near as much publicity as terrible ones.  And there are some terrible ones out there.  There is a world of difference between a landlord with a decent written tennancy agreement that follows legal requirements, who has the correct safety certficates for the house, fixes stuff in a timely manner etc.etc. and the other end of the scale, where there's no written tennancy worth having, no safety certs, nothing working, damp ingress, house falling down etc.etc.

Having experienced both ends of that scale, I would have zero issue in witholding rent from the latter. 

[sdkrc]

Thought I'd be sound and pick the missus up from work yesterday 

[Rocket88]

As a landlord, (who rents out a property at about 75% of what I could get for it, because they’re friends of mine) I think the majority of landlords are pretty fair and reasonable. That “ parasite “ remark is a sweeping generalisation.

[Split_Pin]

40 minutes ago, Nyphur said:

Anyone had an email that their data has been compromised in the Autodoc breach? I've not had anything yet, but a mate got an email this morning.

Translated article as I can't find anything in English yet.

 

No but their Cavalier MK3 brake servos are out of stock ☹️

[Remspoor]

3 hours ago, Talbot said:

I am not a moderator.

What I am is annoyed when someone like Sierraman makes a bullshit comment like he did.  Granted, I probably shouldn't' have reacted the way I did, but the basis of my comment stands.  I'm not going to delete or change it, as there's no benefit in doing so, but for someone to suggest I am spouting "freeman on the land" waffle, when all I did was point out that people stop paying rent and have to be evicted all the time, that person can indeed get bent.

Not in the mood.  At all.

Well change the badge then.

[Talbot]

5 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

Well change the badge then.

Unfortunately not possible.  It's part of the forum software.  It shows me as being a moderator simply because I need certain privaledges to be the treasurer.  As soon as anyone is "staff", the badge says they are a moderator.

Unless my role here changes, I won't enter into any aspect of moderating the forum.  Same as Stanky previously: He was identified as a moderator by the software, but did not actually moderate in any way.

[Remspoor]

10 minutes ago, Talbot said:

Unfortunately not possible.  It's part of the forum software.  It shows me as being a moderator simply because I need certain privaledges to be the treasurer. 

Then you allowed the wrong  software to be purchased. 😁🤑

[Rusty_Rocket]

59 minutes ago, Nyphur said:

Anyone had an email that their data has been compromised in the Autodoc breach? I've not had anything yet, but a mate got an email this morning.

Translated article as I can't find anything in English yet.

 

Yes! I had an (in English) email from them saying the same this morning. 

Not sure if it's real or not. 

[Talbot]

11 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

Then you allowed the wrong  software to be purchased. 😁🤑

Me?

The forum has run on this software for many years.

[3VOM]

2 hours ago, Nyphur said:

Anyone had an email that their data has been compromised in the Autodoc breach? I've not had anything yet, but a mate got an email this morning.

Translated article as I can't find anything in English yet.

 

I got the email this morning. Have to be careful more than ever with phishing and similar shit.

[GMcD]

2 hours ago, sdkrc said:

Thought I'd be sound and pick the missus up from work yesterday 

Yes, my random acts of kindness have a habit of biting me too!

Backy next time? 😆

[horriblemercedes]

5 hours ago, Split_Pin said:

I totally appreciate your points of view, your right to reply and defend yourself and that sierraman has got your back up. 

But I'm not just going to sit here and watch a mod speak to someone like that and then be ganged up on by a few others on the back of it. Especially someone who has been a good egg to me over the years. 

Feel free to tell me to do one, delete/restrict my account, I'm past caring these days. I just wanted to respectfully make a stand.

OP, it's a shit situation and I sympathise. I think a lot of us, mortgage or renting are worrying if they'll keep their houses past October . My mortgage is due to renew that month and coupled with the energy price rise,  I'm firmly in that category.

Peace.

I think we all read things differently. I saw it as Talbot giving some advice, which may be bad or good. It doesn't matter for my post whether it is or not.

Then he was chastised for being a Freeman type - but it wasn't Freeman stuff. A Freeman would say, "You do what you want because the law can't tell you what to do! Those rules are no more legitimate than your rules. Just make your own and quote them back to them when they send the bailiffs! Tell them that by talking to you, they're entering a contract!"

Whereas Talbot acknowledged and addressed the rules and suggested how to take advantage of them, which is very different and not mental.

 

 

[jakebullet]

I was in my shed working on the lathe, when there's a sudden bang! followed by air blasting. Gosh*, wonder what that could be?

Air line auto oiler had exploded. I think the oil reservoir plastic has gone brittle with age and decided to part company from the body rocket launch style. Glad I wasn't stood near it.

[Spiny Norman]

Going back to the pets in rented properties thing, our last two tenants had a rabbit and a small dog and neither caused any problems.
To me,  a good tenant will take care of the property regardless of whether they have pets or children and a bad tenant will destroy it on their own without assistance.

 

[Talbot]

1 hour ago, Spiny Norman said:

Going back to the pets in rented properties thing, our last two tenants had a rabbit and a small dog and neither caused any problems.
To me,  a good tenant will take care of the property regardless of whether they have pets or children and a bad tenant will destroy it on their own without assistance.

 

This.

Where I am at the moment we pay a small surcharge for having dogs in the house.  I expect it's to allow for the increased level of wear and tear expected which is only reasonable.  We vacuum about 3x more often than would be needed without dogs and wet-vax-wash the carpets regularly.  It's probably cleaner for having dogs there than it would be without.

[Rust Collector]

48 minutes ago, Spiny Norman said:

Going back to the pets in rented properties thing, our last two tenants had a rabbit and a small dog and neither caused any problems.
To me,  a good tenant will take care of the property regardless of whether they have pets or children and a bad tenant will destroy it on their own without assistance.

 

This is kind of the crux of it.

In the second house I rented, my Labrador got up to the kitchen counter one day when I was out and pulled down a 2 litre bottle of vegetable oil, which he burst and then drank. He then vomited and arse blasted oil all over the kitchen, which luckily had a tile floor and I cleaned up without issue. He was fine all evening after that, and I stupidly thought all was well. He looked a bit sorry for himself though and so I let him come and sleep upstairs in the bedroom with me so he was more comfortable. This was error of judgement number one. I was awoken in the early hours to the smell of rancid arse and a sound like chunky soup pouring out a drain. Panic kicked in and I ran over to the dog, grabbed him in a bear hug and ran through the house to the garden with him. This was mistake number two. Instead of just ruining the bedroom carpet, I ruined the upstairs landing, stairway, and downstairs hallway carpets too. I had a vax type thing, but it just couldn't shift the oily poo mixture completely and the carpets were never going to be quite the same again. I went to the local carpet place and had a chat, it turned out that they did the carpets before we moved in and were able to supply the same carpet so that I could replace it like for like. A friend was a carpet fitter so I got him in to do the job as I trusted him to do it right. It cost me several hundred quid to put right, but I couldn't have left it in good conscience as I don't think 'wear and tear' quite covers what happened that night.

[eddyramrod]

I hope the poor dog is ok now!

[Rust Collector]

19 minutes ago, eddyramrod said:

I hope the poor dog is ok now!

He's all good, he's never touched the cooking oil again though and that was about 9 years ago when this happened 😅