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Try extending the tailpipe to exit a bit further out past the valance,a lot of the noise is caused by sound booming under the boot floor.or a curved trim piece.original two piece systems with the round silencer are very farty,around 95-96 a one piece system with oval silencer and curved tailpiece was fitted which is much quieter.heatervalve is indeed just held in place inline with the hose,usually by the dizzy to make getting to number two plug really awkward. yes that is the right heater.james.at CHG has just had the heater to body grommets re made and also the heater trunking from the oe supplier should you need bits.

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1 hour ago, Angrydicky said:

Where was I...?

Oh yes, so I replaced the rad with the new ally one, fresh coolant and a new bottom hose and water pump gasket (the pump was new but the gasket damaged) cured the leaks. I made a new gasket out of rubberised cork which is really good stuff.

It now runs well and the gauge sits slap bang in the middle.

The mot ran out on the 2nd August so dad and I went round it to fix all the faults. One foglight and one headlight weren’t working. Dodgy wiring and corroded connections. Cut off a scotchlock and soldered it properly. The exhaust was also blowing where the mid section meets the backbox- it’s an aftermarket big bore exhaust and someone had made a mess of fitting it - not only had they not pushed the two parts of the exhaust together fully, but they’d used a hanger that was too short and cut a hole in the rear valance for the tailpipe to go. I had to use lots of heat to get the two parts separated, then cleaned it all up, welded a short extension onto the backbox so the strap would reach and out it all back together. It’s still loud, but at least it’s not blowing.

There are only three Class 3 testing stations in Southend. One of which I recognised as being lenient as I’ve bought a couple of ropey cars that were tested by them. Phoned them and they said “oh our class 3 tester is working at another garage this week, try them instead”. So I did. He didn’t seem especially pleased when we dropped it off but was all smiles when we collected it, saying how good it was, and he could see we’d done a lot of work on it to a high standard. Just one verbal advisory for the front tyre getting low.

Flushed with an official clean bill of health, I decided to tidy it up by repainting the scruffy alloys. I’m very lazy with painting and don’t really like doing it, especially as these are quite fiddly things. Still, it was a lovely summer day and there were only two of them, so I sat in the garden and rubbed them down, masked them up and painted them using BMC Island Blue (same colour as my A35 and the only blue aerosol I could find) and lacquer. Came out pretty well really! I polished up the bare aluminium bits. It’s not perfect because they are quite badly kerbed but do look much better.

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The next thing was the tyres. The rears were very old and the front was almost on the limit. Had three new Falkens fitted at the local place, about £50 each or something fitted. They had to order them in specially and it took a couple of days for them to arrive.

It was funny seeing the man going behind their stack of new tyres which had just been delivered, all of which were for modern cars with ridiculously big tyres (it didn’t look like there was much there less than 18”) and fishing out these three little 10” tiddlers!

With the new tyres on I was confident enough to push it straight into daily use.

Robin mirrors are super rare and £50 a pop secondhand from Reliant specialists. When they get broken typical tight arse Reliant owners won’t pay for proper replacements so they fit any old shit. I don’t know what the ones on it were from (Peugeot 205 maybe?) but they were so floppy I couldn’t see a thing in them.

Managed to get a drivers one for a whopping £35 a while ago. Been biding my time since. A Robin got posted breaking for spares on the Reliant fb page. I asked for a price for the passenger mirror and heater and he said £10 and £20 respectively. I dibbed them straight away and thought I’d have the other mirror too for that money. I asked him for a price for the window winders too as I’ve got one broken one. One of his ones was broken and one had been repaired but he kindly chucked them in. I sent him a parcel label and this turned up at work today.

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I popped the passenger mirror on after freeing it off. Much better!

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The heater came from a G reg Robin LX and I’m pretty sure it’s the correct one based on what plasticvandan was saying. I think I’ve got all the trunking now, and I’ve got plenty of heater hose so all I need to be able to reinstate it is a cable, a valve and the four rubber grommets where the trunking goes through the bulkhead.

Does anyone know if the valve is screwed to the inner wing (if so where?) or if it just floats in the pipe?

The heater isn’t in amazing condition (it came from a scrap car) the motor assembly has taken a wallop and the fan blades are catching on the box. Looks easy enough to pull it back to where it should be. The matrix looks pretty good though and I’ll flush it through before fitting it. No idea if the motor works but fingers crossed!

My dad tuned it up and got it running much better. It starts brilliantly now and has great compression. Lovely little engine so what Torsten was told about it having been rebuilt I’m sure was true. It seems to be doing it good to be having regular use too.

Happy to see your own blue 3 wheeler is continuing to go well :) 

let me know how the Falken Tyres are/fare as I had a set of 3 fitted to my own blue 3 wheeler a few months ago :) 

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Loving the Robin, excellent work!  Falkens are pretty decent, I've had a few on cars and vans over the years and can't complain for the price.  They have a warranty too, seems odd but I got a puncture which wasn't repairable on a half-worn Falken tyre that was a couple of years old and they replaced it for free, I just had to pay fitting.  

 

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Robin is looking really good now.

Happened to be watching an old top gear about the robin last night (you know the one). Despite the best efforts of that oaf Clarkson both of my boys loved the robin and have been talking all morning about how great they are and saying we should get one.

Turns out there is hope for the future.

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Yeah they feel ok, can’t say they feel much different to the old ones, it’s still easy to lose grip on the near side rear wheel when turning left quickly. They were well worth getting though as the old tyres were very shit indeed and I was very concerned about a blowout.

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As alluded to on the News 24 thread, I have managed to find myself another Rover as a daily.

I got the call last week, so headed up there yesterday, armed with a jump pack as it had been standing for months. But I needn’t have worried, the seller already had it up and running. I took it for a run, it felt great, so I handed over a small amount of folding and drove away into the sunset in a fine piece of Ronda.

So what have I bought? It’s a Rover 620 SI manual in Old Giffer Gold. It’s done 98k and has a reassuringly large amount of service history, old MoTs etc and two service books with loads of stamps. The cambelt was done in Nov 2017 at 90000 so that’ll be ok for a bit, it’s also got newish Goodyears all round and new rear discs and pads on it. It’s not my ideal spec (I would have preferred an auto with beige interior) but it’s the right colour and engine. More to the point the right price.

I can definitely fill out the Rover 600 typical fault bingo with this one.

Window regulator inop - the last owner actually had the drivers one replaced but shortly after the passenger one failed. That’s not so much of an issue.

Clock lost its pixels

Aftermarket radio fitted as a result of the above (the Rover one uses the clock to display the radio code)

Wheelarch rust 

High level brake light has fallen out of the back window, I guess the glue holding them fails with time. Dad wedged a piece of polystyrene under it in the last one he owned. It doesn’t work either, hopefully just a bulb.

One wheel has a slow puncture (corroded alloys I guess)

Remote locking fob has lost its rubber buttons and doesn’t work anyway.

Air con pipes rotted out

its got an electric tilt ‘n slide sunroof which drops down but won’t slide back. I didn’t try tilting it, I just wanted to get it shut. The seller reckoned the windscreen leaked a bit. I got caught in some torrential rain earlier and couldn’t see any leaks but I’ll keep an eye on it. The demisting is piss poor as all 600s seem to be. Heater is very good though.

It’s also got really bad lacquer peel on the boot, and the roof and bonnet look like they’ve been cleaned with a Brillo pad (I guess someone’s scrubbed off the flaky lacquer). It’s a shame really because bar a few marks the sides of the car are in great condition- just the horizontal panels that have suffered.

Its smooth and fast with a very nice clutch - dad has a drive and he reckons it’s both faster and smoother than the identical spec 620 SI manual he used to own. The SI means it’s the more powerful 130 bhp engine.  It’s definitely quicker than the 1.8 auto I used to have. The interior is very good - no damage and it hasn’t been smoked in, smells fresh inside and there’s no noticeable wear on any of the seats. Needs a hoover which I will do at some point but to be honest it’s very clean for a cheap car. Normally they’re minging.

The only issue with how it drives is some wheel wobble under braking - this points to warped front discs which to be honest don’t look that bad, old but barely any wear lip. Pads aren’t that old. It has been sat up for months next to a damp hedge and seems to have improved with use so maybe it’ll clear up, if not a pair of discs isn’t the end of the world. 

Dad also reckoned the brake pedal was a bit spongy, i didn’t think it was that bad but it had a brake fluid change in Feb this year so perhaps they didn’t get all the air out.

Some pictures. It was very green so I gave it a quick wash but it could be improved - the wheels in particular are covered in baked on brake dust but there’s barely any noticeable damage on them, so they should clean up really well with some decent wheel cleaner.

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The easiest way to sort this would be to look for a replacement bootlid and bonnet in the right colour. Easier said than done now 600s are a rare sight in breakers yards. Can’t do much about the roof bar respraying it but I could probably live with it short term. 

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Remains of a Rover dealer sticker- can’t tell which one but possibly a dealer in Redditch who sold it as a used car in 1999. It lived in the West Midlands with the same owner until 2017 when it came to Norfolk.

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This bit needs touching up.

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Horrible numberplates - only fitted in 2017 and the rear one is delaminating already. I’m on the case of some proper ones for it.

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I found the missing boot badge in the glovebox, along with the original Rover book pack and the locking wheel nut key.

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Overall very pleased with it, should be a lot more reliable than the 45.

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  • Angrydicky changed the title to Dicky’s Disastrous Debris - Richard’s new Ronda
7 hours ago, EssDeeWon said:

Noice! Hardly see these now.  There is a very tidy one in Rayleigh that screams 1 owner in bumfire red.  Aside from that I never see any about.

Nice, haven’t seen that one.

There’s a handful around the Southend area. Lovely low mileage T reg BRG 618 just off Woodgrange Drive, local VOO reg with Lookers plates. A white V plate near the hospital. Another white V reg off Southchurch Road. And a pair of Nightfire Reds with personal plates, owned by the same bloke in Canewdon.

I managed to find someone selling a pair of genuine NOS Rover front discs which I snapped up for £30 odd. However, looking online it looks an arse of a job to change them, so I’ve asked the local garage for a quote.

In other news, I carefully scraped off the remanants of the old sticky pad, and stuck the Rover badge back on the boot: 

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I still really like the car and it feels nice and tight, with no suspension rattles. It feels like it’s got loads of life left in it which I was hoping for.

Going to do a few jobs on it this weekend hopefully. I want to T-cut off a few marks, touch in some chips, bleed the clutch (although the brake fluid is new, the clutch fluid is ancient) maybe try bleeding the brakes as well to try and get a better pedal, change the coolant and see if I can get the electric Ariel and sunroof free off and working properly.

Also ordered some of that fancy Bilt-Hamber “Korrosol” for doing the wheels, this stuff turns ferrous deposits and brake grime purple as it runs off. Very clever, and I think the wheels will come up almost like new. Although I would love a set of Crown GSi wheels if anyone’s got a set? I think they’re the same as the ones fitted on the Mk2 800.

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  • Angrydicky changed the title to Dicky’s Disastrous Debris - Badge Engineering

They're still a good looking car in my eyes. Nicely bought, they've really started to disappear in the last few years. Used to see a nice Coventry registered metallic green example round Sudbury fairly often with what looked like its original owners. 

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10 hours ago, Angrydicky said:

Nice, haven’t seen that one.

There’s a handful around the Southend area. Lovely low mileage T reg BRG 618 just off Woodgrange Drive, local VOO reg with Lookers plates. A white V plate near the hospital. Another white V reg off Southchurch Road. And a pair of Nightfire Reds with personal plates, owned by the same bloke in Canewdon.

I managed to find someone selling a pair of genuine NOS Rover front discs which I snapped up for £30 odd. However, looking online it looks an arse of a job to change them, so I’ve asked the local garage for a quote.

In other news, I carefully scraped off the remanants of the old sticky pad, and stuck the Rover badge back on the boot: 

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I still really like the car and it feels nice and tight, with no suspension rattles. It feels like it’s got loads of life left in it which I was hoping for.

Going to do a few jobs on it this weekend hopefully. I want to T-cut off a few marks, touch in some chips, bleed the clutch (although the brake fluid is new, the clutch fluid is ancient) maybe try bleeding the brakes as well to try and get a better pedal, change the coolant and see if I can get the electric Ariel and sunroof free off and working properly.

Also ordered some of that fancy Bilt-Hamber “Korrosol” for doing the wheels, this stuff turns ferrous deposits and brake grime purple as it runs off. Very clever, and I think the wheels will come up almost like new. Although I would love a set of Crown GSi wheels if anyone’s got a set? I think they’re the same as the ones fitted on the Mk2 800.

There are two different sizes of front brake discs, check before you strip, the job isn't too bad, remove caliper carrier and drive shaft nut, them belt the disc with a big hammer until the bearing splits and hope your balls don't go everywhere (fnar fnar).

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Looks alright that. Last time I sat in a 600 I couldn't get comfy but I think the seats are very similar to my Aerodeck so might have to give them another try. 
The clutch on these is lovely and light, and the 2.0 F-Series is a great engine when maintained well. Ignition components are crucial to good running though, and can make a huge difference to the performance. 

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9 hours ago, EssDeeWon said:

Crown alloys will look good.  I am picking mine up from storage tomorrow to give it some use and a turn of the wheels.  Do you know any local reasonable sprayers @Angrydicky ?

Only one I've used was Essex Auto Finishers on Vanguard Way in Shoebury. Did a really nice job, and reasonably priced but they were very slow and needed chasing several times to actually start work... that was five years ago, though.

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  • Angrydicky changed the title to Dicky’s Disastrous Debris - Ultra rare Austin joins the fleet 29/3/21

When I saw ultra rare Austin in the title I wasn't expecting one of these. I can't remember the last time I saw one in the metal, in fact there's a chance that I may never have seen one. Well done for finding out about it and saving it. The previous owner looks happy that it's going to a good home. 

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4 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

Nice save!  Are these basically an Austin 16 mechanically then?

Same engine, but column change rather than floor change, and hydraulic brakes. Only on the front wheels though, still mechanical on the back. 

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So slow, thirsty and comically undergeared but will climb a vertical wall in fourth gear...

What would the "normal" upgrade be for one of these engines (equivalent to the 1489 in your A40)?  Was the big four used in the Austin Healeys a development of it or was that a completely different engine?

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55 minutes ago, Angrydicky said:

Back in 2018, someone posted these pictures on the Austin Counties Cars page on FB, of a sorry looking Austin A70 Hampshire. It was parked in Mansfield District Council’s maintenance depot, and the caption just said “I don’t have any more information, so contact the council”.

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For those who have never heard of them, the A70 Hampshire is the epitome of shite postwar motoring. Thirsty and lumbering, only 35000 were made between 1948 and 1951 before it morphed into the A70 Hereford. They have a four cylinder, OHV 2199cc engine, coupled to the usual Austin four-speed column change gearbox.

Nowadays, they’re extremely rare. I can’t believe there’s more than 10 left on the road. Even the Austin Counties Car Club national rallies fail to attract more than one or two. But, they’re not in any way desirable. While the very similar but sportier A90 Atlantic is starting to attract the attention of the kind of people who normally wouldn’t touch a lowly Austin with a barge pole, the Hampshire is unloved and forgotten. Most people have never heard of it and think it’s a Devon. While the Atlantic was seen as quite special even in the fifties and sixties, and hence people kept hold of them, Hampshires were just another boring family car so 99% of them were scrapped in the 1960s. Low values, and tiny numbers of survivors mean no panels have been remade for them and so restoring one as rough as this appeared to be looked a challenge. In my opinion, the A70 Hampshire is the holy grail of Counties Austins due to the rarity and obscurity. I’ve wanted one for years but they very rarely come up for sale.

Anyway, I, and many others, assumed LOB 284 had been dragged out of some lockup somewhere, where the owner had died and hadn’t paid rent for years. It was the logical explanation. I liked the look of it though. Of course it needed a lot of welding, but it looked ever so original, with its lovely Bluemels front numberplate still intact (so often ditched by stupid owners for ghastly repros) and the original Birmingham reg number. It was still on the DVLA website, last taxed 1988.

I didn’t do anything about it but thought about the car regularly. More recently, I tried to find out if the car was still there. The consensus was that it had gone. I was quite sad, thinking it had been removed and destroyed by some “authorised contractor” probably at huge cost to Mansfield taxpayers. Anyway, I eventually stopped procrastinating and sent an email to the council, asking what happened to the car and identifying myself as an Austin Counties Car Club member, very concerned about the welfare of this rare survivor. A very nice lady answered me, saying she was going to forward my enquiry onto the depot.

About a month passed then out of the blue I had an email from a man identifying himself as the owner of LOB 284, who had been handed my details by his employer. “It is for sale”. was included in his email, along with his phone number. Uh-oh. I need another project car like I need a hole in the head. But, I ended up calling the owner and he told me the story of the car.

His uncle had bought it secondhand in 1959. This man remembered being taken out in it in the early ‘60s when he was very young. His uncle had it until about 2018 when he died and he’d inherited it. Being short of space, he’d initially stored it at his workplace, which is where it was photographed. It was now safe on his driveway. No, he had no intention of scrapping it but had come to the realisation he wasn’t going to get around to doing anything with it, and being sat outside wasn’t doing it any favours.

I asked him how much he wanted. “Make me a sensible offer” he said. I hate doing this and wasn’t prepared to drive all the way up to Derbyshire (where the car was) only to find he had unrealistic expectations and wanted a couple of grand for it. Fortunately, a good friend of mine, and classic car enthusiast, who lives not far away, offered to view it on my behalf, as the photos from the seller didn’t seem to be forthcoming. He did so, and his verdict was: restorable. Pretty good interior,  under the mould, and complete, but very rusty. The engine turned over ok. He couldn’t actually inspect the back or passenger side of the car, due to it being parked against two walls on a very narrow driveway, but the bits he could see didn’t look great. Although the boot floor was solid and there was a brand new rear wing on the back seat (which the seller hadn’t even mentioned) which his uncle had bought to replace the fucked one. What a find!

After taking advice from the owners club (who reckoned it was realistically a spares car) I rang the seller and put my case to him. I promised it a good, dry home, where it will be welded up and eventually returned to the road. I lowballed him, we haggled a bit then agreed a price.  How exciting!

The next question was how to get a rotten non runner from Derbyshire to Suffolk. I decided to go with the shiters’ choice for car transport, Worldofceri who did a great job, thoroughly recommended. Ceri did have a bit of a game extracting it from the previous owners driveway, due to having two flat tyres on the near side. 

That’s the previous owner, looking happy at the prospect of having his driveway back!

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Ceri very kindly took these photos and sent them to me straight after he’d got it loaded and strapped down. I was grinning ear to ear especially seeing the nearside for the first time, which looked surprisingly good. Not so welcome was the news that the drivers side sill was so rotten the b pillar has detached at the bottom and Ceri was going to have to put a ratchet strap around the middle of the car to keep the drivers door closed. Ho-hum. Anyway, he securely strapped the door and the flapping rear wing, and set off on the 160 mile journey Southeast.

 

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what an awesome find and save! very much looking forward to seeing more on this one! :)

and im very pleased it was saved by you and not someone would just rob it of its plates and flog it on as is sadly far too often the case these days

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Kudos for managing to track it down and going ahead with the purchase! When you originally posted the photo of it at the depot, I had a sinking feeling that it had made it's final journey around an oval shaped area. Great news that it has been tucked away in the meantime and good man for taking it on. 

You'll be filming the first startup, aye? 

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