Late registration madness

[forbeslongden]

Seems quite late for such a boxy van...

[sierraman]

I suppose 4 months ago isn’t that long back compared to, I don’t know, the industrial revolution. 

[martc]

2 hours ago, forbeslongden said:

Seems quite late for such a boxy van...

That's pretty much in the middle of the import run. It's a second generation phase 2  Fiorino. Production of this model started in 1994 and imports into the UK ceased in 2001 but it continued to be sold in South America until 2014.

[Talbot]

19 hours ago, brownnova said:

Just seen this for sale on Facebook… a P Reg W124! Thats a late one isn’t it?! Sure the W201 had begun by then… 

 

W201 was the C-class, not a direct replacement for the W124, which was the E-class.  However, the W210 (e-class replacement) was well into production, as they were available on an N, so this has hung around for at least a year, if not a bit more, before being registered.

[Six-cylinder]

12 minutes ago, Talbot said:

W201 was the C-class, not a direct replacement for the W124, which was the E-class.  However, the W210 (e-class replacement) was well into production, as they were available on an N, so this has hung around for at least a year, if not a bit more, before being registered.

Somewhere buried deep in my mind is a note almost faded away that says estate production lasted longer than saloons.

[brownnova]

53 minutes ago, Talbot said:

W201 was the C-class, not a direct replacement for the W124, which was the E-class.  However, the W210 (e-class replacement) was well into production, as they were available on an N, so this has hung around for at least a year, if not a bit more, before being registered.

Ah yeah, Meant W210… the one I have.

Getting my 0 and 1s mixed up. Best never get involved in binary code! 

[Talbot]

31 minutes ago, brownnova said:

Ah yeah, Meant W210… the one I have.

Getting my 0 and 1s mixed up. Best never get involved in binary code! 

There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

[MisterH]

2 hours ago, Talbot said:

There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

[chaseracer]

4 hours ago, Talbot said:

W201 was the C-class, not a direct replacement for the W124, which was the E-class.  However, the W210 (e-class replacement) was well into production, as they were available on an N, so this has hung around for at least a year, if not a bit more, before being registered.

Nearly.  W201 was the 190, first C-class was the W202.

/<pedant> 😉

[MKT]

Seen this Satria GTi up for sale on FB, 04 reg seems quite late for one of these?

[brownnova]

Look closely… an 03 plated Mk1! 
 

Manafactured 1993, imported 2003… 

[AnnoyingPentium]

There's a 2009 registered Skoda Fabia vRS SE kicking about somewhere.

[Jamie]

First 07 plate e46 I've seen, in 15 years of owning them! 

[LightBulbFun]

On 30/10/2021 at 16:36, LightBulbFun said:

Pinched from Facebook  (I know not technically late registration madness since they are still made, but its still amusing to see a 71 plate on what is a 1970's car, one of the few vintage cars left still in production)

its nice to see that the guy who suddenly decided to start importing them is actually selling some! (this is the first one since that venture I have seen outside of the 21 plate Demonstrator thats well known)

 If I had the means id love to get one  (https://lada4x4.co.uk/ id get a base with steel wheels, although probably see if I could spec Air conditioning because im soft like that)

along similar lines and also pinched from facebook, I present the 70 plate bread loaf  

awesome to see someone was autoshite enough to import one of these in this day and age  (its a UAZ 452 which they have been making contiously since 1965, I have always wanted to see someone bring over a brand new one, so its neat to see that finally LOL)

[catsinthewelder]

61 plate Corsa C Combo

[AnnoyingPentium]

09 reg Fabia vRS SE...? Belonged to a member on Briskoda.

[Yoss]

On 2/27/2022 at 8:05 PM, AnnoyingPentium said:

09 reg Fabia vRS SE...? Belonged to a member on Briskoda.

Shame they cut a big hole in the bumper then isn't it? 

[AnnoyingPentium]

3 minutes ago, Yoss said:

Shame they cut a big hole in the bumper then isn't it? 

Definitely. If you're on Briskoda then you may know it as BossFox's car. It was running a fair amount of power with one of those front mount intercoolers IIRC.

[Yoss]

I used to go there quite a lot but the Fav/Felly section became quite dormant so I don't really bother now. I still check it once a month to make sure the monthly meet is on but that's about it. 

I know why they cut holes in the poor things, I just wish they wouldn't. 

[AnnoyingPentium]

1 minute ago, Yoss said:

I used to go there quite a lot but the Fav/Felly section became quite dormant so I don't really bother now. I still check it once a month to make sure the monthly meet is on but that's about it. 

I thought I recognised your username!

2 minutes ago, Yoss said:

I know why they cut holes in the poor things, I just wish they wouldn't. 

Agreed. Especially when they do a shite job of it because "scene, innit".

[Yegoloda]

T Reg MK1 spotted on facebook marketplace, late 99, production ended two years earlier.

[cms206]

On 2/27/2022 at 1:12 AM, catsinthewelder said:

61 plate Corsa C Combo

Looks like a wheelchair conversion?

Old boy in my work has a 61-plate panel van but it's a couple of months younger than that one.

[RoverFolkUs]

I saw a Peugeot 406 today....

On an 11 plate!!! 

RX11 FRZ

I was a passenger but couldn't get a photo in time just passing 

[AnnoyingPentium]

1 hour ago, RoverFolkUs said:

I saw a Peugeot 406 today....

On an 11 plate!!! 

RX11 FRZ

I was a passenger but couldn't get a photo in time just passing 

MOT history measures the miles in KM, I'm thinking an import???

Edit - to add to the enigma, some of it is in miles...

[RoverFolkUs]

1 hour ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

MOT history measures the miles in KM, I'm thinking an import???

Edit - to add to the enigma, some of it is in miles...

I've looked into it a bit further, it comes up as not an import and was not used prior to registration. 🤔

I now notice it mainly being in KM too

There's a couple of posts on other forums about this very car with similarly bemused people (if you type in the reg to Google you'll see them)

Couldn't find any explanations from anyone nor the owner posting about it anywhere

The question is why on earth was a non-uk pug 406 that wasn't imported stored in this country and not registered until 2011!? 

I didn't see whether it was LHD or RHD which may have given some pointers. It wasn't too far from me but not exactly local either, when I'm next passing it I'll try to suss out if it's LHD or RHD

 

[AnnoyingPentium]

2 minutes ago, RoverFolkUs said:

I've looked into it a bit further, it comes up as not an import and was not used prior to registration. 🤔

I now notice it mainly being in KM too

There's a couple of posts on other forums about this very car with similarly bemused people (if you type in the reg to Google you'll see them)

Couldn't find any explanations from anyone nor the owner posting about it anywhere

The question is why on earth was a non-uk pug 406 that wasn't imported stored in this country and not registered until 2011!? 

I didn't see whether it was LHD or RHD which may have given some pointers. It wasn't too far from me but not exactly local either, when I'm next passing it I'll try to suss out if it's LHD or RHD

 

Does this help?

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82134

[RoverFolkUs]

30 minutes ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

Does this help?

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82134

That's the one I came across after looking it up. I wonder how they discovered it's an ex police car 🤔

[AnnoyingPentium]

@LightBulbFun are you able to help with telling us anything behind this oddball Puggit 406?

[LightBulbFun]

32 minutes ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

@LightBulbFun are you able to help with telling us anything behind this oddball Puggit 406?

is it wrong that I tend to read these and then wait and see how long it takes before I get tagged? LOL

 

it could well still be an import, but if it was new or "declared new on date of first registration" (a special note which it will have on its V5c) the full phrasing of which used to be "declared new at first registration in great britain by manufacturer/sole import concessionaire"

then it wont have an import marker, after all, most new cars are imports! only vehicles used prior to the date of first registration in Great britain are given an import marker, or more specficly a used before date of reigstration shown marker (which is old historic british cars which have been re-registered get "import" markers when they are not an import)

it could also be an Ex diplomatic car or such re-registered incorrectly  like @HMC's old Mercedes

On 30/01/2021 at 19:22, LightBulbFun said:

ohh its an interesting one 

when you mention it spent 5 years in the UK before going to Jersey, do you know when this was?

it has an MOT record going back to 2006 and is down as first registered 25th of June 2001

but according to the DVLA and looking at it via my special tools, its been registered as if it was a new car in 2011

it has no import/used on date of first registration marker or such and is down manufactured in 2011, as if someone took a new car and registered it so technically not an error on the DVLA side at least

but maybe an error on the person registering it who may have filled in a V55/4 rather then a V55/5!

looks to have had a private plate before 2018 for what thats worth

 

I have to wonder if it was registered as Diplomatic car/with a diplomatic plate, during its first 5 years here? while they wont show up on the main DVLA checker/any tools they WILL show up in the MOT checker, as the MOT checker is a DVSA thing rather then a DVLA thing which is also why you see record discrepancies from time to time

 

 

does the V5 have anything in its special notes like "Declared new at first registration" ?

 

On 09/02/2021 at 17:42, LightBulbFun said:

yeah I talked a bit about it in HMCs thread  

 

TL;DR, I suspect its a combination of 2 things, one someone filling out a V55/4 instead of a V55/5 when registering it with the DVLA in 2011

and that I suspect it may have been a diplomatic car at some point before then given its previous owner history hence the MOT record from 2006 etc

 

[RoverFolkUs]

7 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

is it wrong that I tend to read these and then wait and see how long it takes before I get tagged? LOL

 

it could well still be an import, but if it was new or "declared new on date of first registration" (a special note which it will have on its V5c) the full phrasing of which used to be "declared new at first registration in great britain by manufacturer/sole import concessionaire"

then it wont have an import marker, after all, most new cars are imports! only vehicles used prior to the date of first registration in Great britain are given an import marker, or more specficly a used before date of reigstration shown marker (which is old historic british cars which have been re-registered get "import" markers when they are not an import)

it could also be an Ex diplomatic car or such re-registered incorrectly  like @HMC's old Mercedes

 

 

In this case it has not been used prior to first registration and does not have an import marker. It's MOT history starts from 2014 so seems all usual there. 

The idea of it being an ex-diplomatic car does seem the most plausible

I'm sure we'll find out for sure one day if the owner comes forward/it comes up for sale etc

Cheers!