Late registration madness

[Ghosty]

Y is possible, it's as late as they go. The Escort Van went on until 52 plate when the Transit Connect came in.

[Pillock]

There's always something bumpf trotted out about how the X and Y plate Escorts were built by Jag employees or something. Just thought I'd throw it out there without any fact checking at all, that seems a lot of hard work.

[bub2006]

There used to be a y plated ford escort finesse in estate flavour round these parts. Road tax was very high on it. £280 rings a bell. Not seen it in a while. My van was a 52 plate

[Timewaster]

more than Jaaaaaags are built by ex escort builders ... given halewood passed from mainstream FoMoCo to JLR at around the time the Escrot was on run out

I don't think that is such a bad thing.

It was the design of the car that was utter crap. I don't recall build quality being an issue.

[Sir Snipes]

Like it makes any difference. Jaguars weren't handbuilt by master craftsman or anything.

[New POD]

DVLA won't allow a plate that makes the car appear newer than it is.

Because that would add to the value??

 

It's all on the internet so why not just have a free for all.

 

All the buyer has to do is check the DVLA website and they know when it was registered.

 

That said we have made an mk1 R reg MX5 into a J reg 1992 lookalike. Just got to refurb the daisies (early alloys) and it will look 5 years older and therefore much more classic.

[New POD]

The dvla don't make mistakes

The DVLA are just lots of people. Civil service types. Some of these people know most of the rules and regulations and some (like my mate who works for the HMRC) don't care to know or apply all the rules correctly. Some take short cuts so they can have a fab break, or have been seconded for the week to help out in a different section.

And then there will be experts who know a lot about very narrow subjects and who actually have a lot to do with making the regulations.

And very little auditing of what they do.

So yes people make mistakes.

 

My dealings with the DVLA over the wording on the V5 of the mk2 fiesta car derived van with rear side Windows which they wanted to call Van with rear side Windows

 

And I wanted hatchback

 

Was very interesting. I eventually ended up speak ikng to middle manager who was so nice and polite, and explained why it had to be that way.

[Christine]

[jcr]

 

Mk1 Octavia on an 09 plate? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-Skoda-Octavia-Tdi-16v-For-Spares-or-Repair/283158505518?hash=item41ed8fe82e:g:9QoAAOSw-W9bIR7R:rk:5:pf:0

[Jim Bergerac]

They were built to 2010, not unusual to see late ones like that in the UK. Fairly sure they were only sold into the taxi trade rather than an over the showroom counter offering though, certainly all the ones I've seen have been either taxis or mega-mile ex-cabs.

[Spottedlaurel]

1996 Peugeot 205 1.7 Diesel by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

 

I don't know much about late-model 205s, but this did look odd on a P-reg. My Parker's Guide suggests a very limited range was available here at the end, based on the Mardi Gras?

[Pillock]

 

 

Because that would add to the value??

 

It's all on the internet so why not just have a free for all.

 

All the buyer has to do is check the DVLA website and they know when it was registered.

 

 

The rules date from a pre-internet era when it would be worth a bombsite car dealers while to buy a reg two years newer than the car and hope nobody looked at the logbook too closely. Especially since cars didn't get facelifts every 6 months like they do now.

 

I dare say they could get changed now the internet is widespread. They're doing themselves out of cash by limiting the market for DVLA Select Plates.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

There's always something bumpf trotted out about how the X and Y plate Escorts were built by Jag employees or something. Just thought I'd throw it out there without any fact checking at all, that seems a lot of hard work.

IT was that late vans were painted to the same quality as X-types , to test the new paint shop or something.

Of course that was seen as a positive thing, at first...

[MiniMort]

1996 Peugeot 205 1.7 Diesel by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

 

I don't know much about late-model 205s, but this did look odd on a P-reg. My Parker's Guide suggests a very limited range was available here at the end, based on the Mardi Gras?

I’ve seen P reg 205s before. I think they stopped selling them here in 1997 or so.

[GeordieInExile]

I've seen an M registered Peugeot 205 in Conwy, but I've never managed to get a shot of it.I've also seen K and L plated Amazons - considering the very last 120 came off the line in 1970 (and the 140 series started in '68, so the factory was on an Amazon wind down) that's a fair bit of NOS lying around, unless they were re imported CKD kits that came back from South Africa.I think there's one '59 Amazon in the country as well. It has a 3 speed gearbox.

I'm a bit late to this party but I've seen an N plate 205 and I'm quite sure you could get them up to P. As above.

 

Could you get them on an R...? I always found the gap between the 205 and 206 odd. 206 was S onwards right?

 

Re: that Astra, I remember reading something in Auto Express about those at the time!

[sierraman]

Seen loads of S plate Astras. In fact one of my old neighbours had a yellow Astra Sport on an S plate.

[SierraMikeHotel]

They were built to 2010, not unusual to see late ones like that in the UK. Fairly sure they were only sold into the taxi trade rather than an over the showroom counter offering though, certainly all the ones I've seen have been either taxis or mega-mile ex-cabs.

That explains something that's been bugging me, thank you. I considered an Octavia a few years ago and every single ad I found in my price range was for an ex minicab.

[Ghosty]

Lakeland Motor Museum has an X-reg Traction, thanks to how the DVLA used to handle imports.

[catsinthewelder]

I think I remember Peugeot was planning to replace the 205 and 309 with the 106 and 306.

 

This didn't go down well so the 205 staggered on for a few more years but there was a gap between the end of 205 production and the 206 arriving.

[Alusilber]

That explains something that's been bugging me, thank you. I considered an Octavia a few years ago and every single ad I found in my price range was for an ex minicab.

 

 

I remember when Edinburgh Council introduced mandatory ID plates for minicabs, suddenly it became apparent that at least half the Octavias (Mk1s at the time) you saw on the roads were employed as minicabs.

[bangernomics]

I’ve a friend with a J reg manta which is a couple of years past their sell by.

[chaseracer]

I'm a bit late to this party but I've seen an N plate 205 and I'm quite sure you could get them up to P.

 

There is an N-plate (11/95) 205 parked 30ft away from me right now...! 

[New POD]

There's always something bumpf trotted out about how the X and Y plate Escorts were built by Jag employees or something. Just thought I'd throw it out there without any fact checking at all, that seems a lot of hard work.

And yesterday whilst in a traffic in c jam on the M6 I was parked next to a transporter with lots of shiney Range Rovers from Halewood.

Interesting that the contracted vehicle was owned by Ford Motor Company Ltd.

Or at least that's what the signage on the drivers door said.

[sierraman]

There's always something bumpf trotted out about how the X and Y plate Escorts were built by Jag employees or something. Just thought I'd throw it out there without any fact checking at all, that seems a lot of hard work.

I think you could be right there. The phenomenal rate at which they corroded would suggest that would be the case.

[Sir Snipes]

I’ve a friend with a J reg manta which is a couple of years past their sell by.

Can't recall his name but I use to know the car. Somehow an unused shell sat at a dealership for a couple of years or some such? He's rebuilt it about 3 times hasn't he?

[bangernomics]

Can't recall his name but I use to know the car. Somehow an unused shell sat at a dealership for a couple of years or some such? He's rebuilt it about 3 times hasn't he?

Yes it’s in primer at the moment but he isn’t too well at present so we are trying to get a few of us together to finish it. His name is Phil btw.

[GeordieInExile]

I think I remember Peugeot was planning to replace the 205 and 309 with the 106 and 306.

 

This didn't go down well so the 205 staggered on for a few more years but there was a gap between the end of 205 production and the 206 arriving.

The 106 was really the 104 replacement though, with an even bigger gap...!

[txe4]

There is a 51 plate red Maestro running around Halifax. I've seen it a few times.

 

HTF?

[Ghosty]

CKD that was reimported back and built, registered as a new car.

[quicksilver]

That'll be one of the last of the Ledbury cars, Google "Ledbury Maestro" for plenty more info on these rather interesting cars.

 

In other ARG news, here's some late reg Metro madness. H120 JPL, built in 1989 but not registered until April 1991, a whole year after the K-series Rover Metro arrived.

1991 Austin Metro 1.3 GS by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

 

And even later, again built in '89 but this van only hit the road in April '92. There were at least two of them as the same owner has both J575 PDV and J576 PDV.

1992 Austin Metro 310 City van by Adam Floyd, on Flickr