invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[NorthernMonkey]

28 minutes ago, OhNoWhatHaveIDone said:

 

Well if they want to be admins, they should do their jobs

We’re too busy dealing with idiots who get put on pre-mod for behaving like petulant toddlers then come back under a different user name and start acting up all over again…

[LightBulbFun]

8 hours ago, timolloyd said:

Having listened to the latest Smith + Sniff podcast last night, there are dozens of classic errors for you to correct @LightBulbFun.

But the question remains, whose car did they spot on the M6 last week?

I am not sure, do you have a link to where i can listen to the section where they mention it or do you have any more details?  question is was it even an Invacar, Reliant's and Bond 875's especially the later, often get mistaken for Invacars

[JJ0063]

14 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

im still the same age I was when I called 2 weeks ago, I dont think @JJ0063 would be very happy with me calling back so soon!  "Hello Darling it’s me again!" *Click! Brrrr* 

As long as I don’t answer, you can call as much as you want! 😂 to be fair though, in 2 weeks things won’t have changed unless any of your details have. 👍

[BorniteIdentity]

11 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

ok you literally had a DVLA screen shot of the word "INVACARE" as your signature for a while, im sorry I cant see how thats not taking the piss....

Genuinely, I don't remember that at all.  And I mean that hand on heart.  But if I did, then I'm not apologising.  It's not the sort of thing people should apologise for. 

"I'm sorry I referenced a DVLA error in my signature on a shit car forum".  Can you imagine? I'm not heading down that road mate.

And when did it become wrong to take the piss?  Nobody is waging a vendetta against you.  You're not the victim of some laser focussed campaign to bring you to your knees.  The Invacare thing isn't even about you, how on earth can one take offence at it?  

You're note a victim, Dez - no more than I am or anyone else on here.

[Dobloseven]

7 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

Where did you gather this info from?

Sad caravanners hat on.A vehicle made after 1998 that can be used legally for towing will have four weights on the VIN plate.A Gross Vehicle Weight,a Gross Train Weights and Axle 1 and Axle 2 weights.The tow bar will need to be type approved too and be labelled with D and S values.And fit to mounting points provided by the vehicle manufacturer.Our very own Barry Cade is the font of all knowledge on tow bars etc.

[bub2006]

55 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

not legally on a TX Black cab sadly, as they are not type approved for it, anything from 1998 onwards needs to be type approved for it

so maybe if you found a really early TX1 from 1997 you could put a Tow bar on it? but otherwise your limited to FX4's (which I personally dont see as a bad thing  I would love an FX4 myself, but I dont think im really in the position for one right now, espically once my ULEZ exemption runs out in 2027, unless I can find a roadworthy 1987 FX4 with the wheelchair option they offered at the time, but I dont think those grow on trees!)

I know the pre 1998 regs,pain in the arse on one of my old cars that was just over the cut off for type approval and I couldn't find a towbar for love nor money. Still needs to be able to tow though. If the chassis can't take it then it's still no good.

Warren ,thanks for the towing information. I'd certainly consider one but I keep seeing mpg figures of low 20s which would be a pain for me running around town. 

[AdgeCutler]

1 hour ago, OhNoWhatHaveIDone said:

Well said Dez, also replying to @AdgeCutler earlier, it's to the point now, when I say anything, either defending myself, or you, or calling someone out who IS IMHO bullying, or just treating someone like crap, for which the admin DO NOTHING, I get slagged off, abused, called this, that, the other, sworn at.....purely because I will not tolerate insults......

Now remind me why I don't update about the Invacar progress?  I'm too busy trying to cover my arse because of all the dickheads out there... Just waiting for the next lot of smart arse comments now!I

It's not worth the hassle...

Please do update us with your progress, that's what most of us would like to read. 

 

[bub2006]

2 hours ago, warren t claim said:

Yes they are. One lad uses his TX to tow his daughter's horse box.

Thanks,that has made life more difficult then knowing it can do what I need it to and may well end up calling on you for advice when I've got the money to change my car. 

[warren t claim]

2 minutes ago, bub2006 said:

Thanks,that has made life more difficult then knowing it can do what I need it to and may well end up calling on you for advice when I've got the money to change my car. 

A manual Nissan powered cab would be great for towing.

[bub2006]

2 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

A manual Nissan powered cab would be great for towing.

I'd prefer auto. I tow no more than 600-700kg but option for bigger like a ton or thereabouts is always handy in case I buy a larger trailer. 

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Genuinely, I don't remember that at all.  And I mean that hand on heart.  But if I did, then I'm not apologising.  It's not the sort of thing people should apologise for. 

"I'm sorry I referenced a DVLA error in my signature on a shit car forum".  Can you imagine? I'm not heading down that road mate.

And when did it become wrong to take the piss?  Nobody is waging a vendetta against you.  You're not the victim of some laser focussed campaign to bring you to your knees.  The Invacare thing isn't even about you, how on earth can one take offence at it?  

You're note a victim, Dez - no more than I am or anyone else on here.

I am not looking for an apology, I just wish you and a few others in here, would kindly just stop being so antagonistic and/or leave me and my thread alone please, by all means feel free to post about any genuine Invacar stuff you might have here, but, repeated piss taking and telling me how REV is a bad idea etc, just knock it off please, again literally since the very first pages of this thread, I have been informed about the many many ways this will be a difficult endeavour and how I am wasting my time/talents on it etc etc, I still remember the times, when people thought I would not even be able to get a Model 70 in the first place!

these posts hit the nail on the head as to "when did it become wrong to take the piss"

On 27/09/2024 at 07:05, Split_Pin said:

Warren, I love some of your threads, brilliant insight and I can always relate to the ones about your debt collecting days.

I have made much less posts than you but my contribition to this forum is equally valid. But as you seem to care about it, I'll say this as someone who's been here for longer than you. You cleverly veil some of your posts and threads behind just enough good honour to diminish the fact that they are simply provocative.  You do the same on TDW, which I no longer visit, treading just the right line between the overt bullies, and rascists, and being genuinely funny and warm. I'm not going to go digging for examples because I can't be arsed and you know fine well what I mean.

'Banter' is subjective. You don't need me to tell you that everyone's idea of what it is and isn't is very different. Boundaries etc.

The thread has gone on long enough that everyone who has concerns about the safety and validity of an Invacar  has made their point and are now just labouring it. I think you should leave Dez alone and let him do what works for him, same goes for everyone else.

 

On 27/09/2024 at 07:27, Dave_Q said:

I tell my children, it's only a joke as long as the person you are joking with/at finds it funny. If they don't, then you stop.

Warren and Sheefag both enjoy/don't mind the arse etc banter so this is absolutely fine.

Dez is CLEARLY not enjoying the banter/advice/however people self-ID their contributions* here, so it's not a joke, it's just being mean.

Any attempt to claim "well X is worse, it's just a forum etc, people can give their opinions" is just an attempt to justify what looks a lot like just being a dick and winding Dez up covered up with a veneer of concern/banter/whatever.

How about just stop it

Edited to add: this isn't safe spacing or wokery or whatever you lot will think it is, it's just not being a dick

 

[plasticvandan]

With all your computer wizardry,is it not possible for you to start your own forum/website dedicated to invalid carriages,from a purely reference point of view it would be much more useful than a 425 page smorgasbord of nonsense interspersed with the occasional photograph or eBay sighting.

[busmansholiday]

9 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

would kindly just stop being so antagonistic and/or leave me and my thread alone please,

That's pretty hypocritical coming from you Dez seeing as you spammed everybodies threads when you got REV going on about it and pissed off a great number of people.

 

To quote an old phrase, "If it's good for the goose it's good for the gander".

[Christine]

Is the vin plate on a model 70 on the chassis or body  ?   Is it also stamped into the chassis  like a Land Rover ?  

[LightBulbFun]

12 minutes ago, busmansholiday said:

That's pretty hypocritical coming from you Dez seeing as you spammed everybodies threads when you got REV going on about it and pissed off a great number of people.

To quote an old phrase, "If it's good for the goose it's good for the gander".

ok I never posted/spammed about REV specifically,  I have been posting about  about Invacars in general, long before I got REV! just look at when this very thread started

 

and what saddens about all the flack that I have gotten for posting about Invacars on the wider forum, is do people not realise, that I do/did that because Invacars is all I know? what else am I supposed to post about? I dont know anything else compared to you and your 50 years of Autoshite-ing, I dont have epic stories of recovering buses, running around in old 1950s-1970's cars and the such like

but I do know Invacars very well, they are something I am extremely enthusiastic about and I know all in detail, so in the same way that someone might point out "oh that has the same door handles as a Morris Marina" I would obviously think the same "Oh such and such is like an Invacar"

I always did make sure that i was relevant to the discussion at hand, its not that I ever just randomly walked into @BorniteIdentity's thread and went "very nice Ford sierra, heres a picture of an Invacar"

 

I mostly posted about Invacars outside my thread, when the general topic called for it, for example there was a question about what the first car to have body moulded plastic bumpers where, so my thought was of course the 1967 AC Acedes Mk14 Model 67

 

and yet I would get flack for this, which I always thought was not very fair, I understand how it is a cliche "here is thread, I am sure LBF will be along shortly with how its related to Invacars" but is that so bad? again I always did try and keep it relevant, but even then it seems my contributions where/are not welcome

I am sorry that I am so enthusiastic about something that I thought would fit in well on this forum

[garbaldy]

32 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

leave me and my thread alone please,

I was under the impression this was an open forum to discuss various topics not one person's to dictate what or who replies 🤔 

[Dave_Q]

47 minutes ago, garbaldy said:

I was under the impression this was an open forum to discuss various topics not one person's to dictate what or who replies 🤔 

Dez has copped a load of shit for posting about invacars in other places so it seems totally fair that he should be able to tell people he's not interested in their contributions to this thread.

Clearly it's a free country/forum and nobody's freedom of digital speech is being infringed here, so I don't think anyone can actually stop anyone posting anywhere, provided they can continue to stay just about on the right side of the line.

Dez's right to reply and tell people he is not interested is surely equally as valid as their right to continue endlessly posting about his life and these little cars they allegedly hate.

[Dave_Q]

While several posters in this thread identify as concerned citizens giving their opinion and/or experience, the cumulative effect looks to me more like a load of sad old wankers harassing a vulnerable young lad for having a hobby and interest that is considered uncool.

[NorthernMonkey]

3 hours ago, garbaldy said:

I was under the impression this was an open forum to discuss various topics not one person's to dictate what or who replies 🤔 

It is, of course but equally so, it’s generally accepted in online communities that it can be seen as impolite to disrupt other people’s threads rather than starting one of your own.

It goes without saying that this works both ways and it’s no secret that Dez wasn’t exactly backwards at coming forwards* when he first joined, posting all about his specialist subject wherever he could in order to try and join in the proceedings.

I’m sure he realises the error of his ways these days now he’s a well established member and (hopefully) wouldn’t dream of driving everyone mad by trying to turn every topic to those wonderful little machines, would you @LightBulbFun? 😉😉

With any luck, he’ll soon have it back home and be able to indulge in (crappy, cooked in vegetable oil) chips several nights a week but in the meantime, it’d be great if we could restore some harmony all round, not least as it’d be good to get on with fixing @Split_Pin’s gearbox without the damn phone pinging reports and complaints every couple of minutes.

🤞👍

 

[Cavcraft]

4 minutes ago, Dave_Q said:

While several posters in this thread identify as concerned citizens giving their opinion and/or experience, the cumulative effect looks to me more like a load of sad old wankers harassing a vulnerable young lad for having a hobby and interest that is considered uncool.

And, of course,  the repeated attempts to turn this thread into bitching and borderline bullying. ITS ALRIGHT M8 ITS JUST BANTZ. 

 

[garbaldy]

22 minutes ago, NorthernMonkey said:

it’s generally accepted in online communities that it can be seen as impolite to disrupt other people’s threads

Yes on some forums maybe but ive never ever noticed that happening here,  threads have always drifted of topic for as long as I've been here. 

[GrumpiusMaximus]

If you take a Venn Diagram of posters that complained when Dez has posted about Invacars all over the forum and posters that complained about Invacars in this thread, it’s practically a circle.

Do I think it’s a great idea to go about the King’s Highways in a fibreglass shell with all the crash resistance of a blancmange?  No. Do I like driving in Central London in my relatively safe 20 year old car?  No.  I think it’s asking for trouble putting an inexperienced driver in an Invacar in that part of the World.

However, as much as anybody thinks it’s unwise, Dez is entirely free to make up his mind.  We can advise and be kind about it and show concern without resorting to insulting his intelligence.

I’ve met Dez and he’s an intelligent, interesting guy with an outlook on life that differs from many but is absolutely authentic.  What you get is genuine.  Can we all pretend to understand? No - but we should all be acting in good faith.

[Jerzy Woking]

Does starting a thread mean that you "own" it, and can therefore dictate who can post in said thread? 

 

[BorniteIdentity]

37 minutes ago, Dave_Q said:

sad old wanker

 

28 minutes ago, Cavcraft said:

bitching and borderline bullying.

Me? 

[BorniteIdentity]

That’s a yes, @loserone? You can say it… 

[BorniteIdentity]

You can’t say it… 

[loserone]

I have no qualms with saying it, your intentions are probably golden but sometimes folk don't know when the right time to quit is.

 

 

A bit like Dez when he first joined the forum, really 😂 only when it's all directed at one person who has been getting it for years you can see it getting tiring..

[big_al_granvia]

what about a  tuk tuk for dez, half of india can't be wrong

[NorthernMonkey]

18 minutes ago, Jerzy Woking said:

Does starting a thread mean that you "own" it, and can therefore dictate who can post in said thread? 

 

I answered the very same question about seven or eight comments back ^ 👍

[Talbot]

5 hours ago, OhNoWhatHaveIDone said:

I get slagged off, abused, called this, that, the other, sworn at.....purely because I will not tolerate insults......

And yet are quite happy to dish them out when it suits you.

I will not let this degenerate back to what it was a few pages back, but you really REALLY need to look at how you've conducted yourself here.  I've explained several times that your attitude absolutely sucks, but you've got your fingers firmly in your ears, shouting "LA LA LA LA LA" as loudly as you can.  But still expect everyone else to accept your moral compass.  Hint:  it doesn't work like that.  Also, Hint2:  Telling the mods that they are not doing their job really does not endear you to them.

I strongly suggest you give up with this constant expectation that you get to determine what is right and wrong here (Hint3: you don't) and either post some interesting/useful/relevant stuff, or get bent.  Either works just fine.