The grumpy thread

[dollywobbler]

The thing is, it just stops you in your tracks, and you never really get taught what to do in these circumstances. I think some people get a bit carried away with the 'oh, I'd better say condolences or something' even when they haven't a clue about what's going on really. I'm afraid I never do that. I just take note and make a mental note to avoid any banter for a few days with that person. Anyway, that was my post, the world moves on and now someone should post something nice and trivial again - which is what this thread is about really! Anger at silliness.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

I bloody hate it when someone reports a death on here or whatever and then loads of people who don't even know the 'announcer' and who certainly have absolutely no idea who the deceased is all chip in with their e-condolances, its flipping ridiculous.

 

It's only a problem when I come in to whine about knocking my Pepsi onto the carpet and find the person before me just lost their entire family when their house collapsed down a disused mineshaft.

 

"If only I'd taken the other route home" "What if I'd left earlier?" "I could have done... something"

 

But there's no good taunting yourself with ifs and buts, it's too late to post about spilling Pepsi on the carpet. 

[tooSavvy]

^^^^^ slap down , wit & incisive observation of E-sycophancy.... Meat & Drink to $hiteists.

 

Just Do It... whatever it could have been....

 

tooSavvy

[theorganist]

Aye. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it at all really. 

 

Well I must admit I did when my father died as for some reason it seemed at thetime a good way of trying to deal with it. I did not do it to get attention but the comments were nice and did help to be honest. However, I can see how it might kill the mood but then again this is the grumpy thread and death of someone you know is going to make you grumpy, sorry if that sounds flippant not sure how to express it really. Anyway condolensces DW.

 

Not sure if this classes as a grump, although it made me grumpy. I will try and keep it concise!

 

I went to  Wolverhampton today to look at a brown Allegro. After doing the seven mile journey from where I work in Oldbury to Wolverhampton, a journey that took one hour and five minutes I met the guy and followed him to his unit. I was by now in a pretty bad mood after having been stuck in traffic for so long.

 

His workshop is a lovely old Victorian factory on the Penn side of Wolverhampton. He had inside three Ford Thames Vans, a Moggy Minor and Mini (classic) and a Wolseley Six, a manual version which apparently is super rare. All were in various states of undress!

 

I was a bit meh about viewing a brown Allegro but being local and as I would still like one I though why not. I assumed from the advert (Lord knows why) that it was a 1300 but it turned out to be a 1979 series 3, 1.5L. I was purturbed by the S registration number plate, however the guy explained that it had been used in a film to look like an earlier one, bourne out by the series 2 grille in the boot. He has apparently applied for the V5.

 

He has the car advertised on Gumtree as spares or repairs at £300 and on viewing it I was beginning to like it, especially being the 1500. He said that the twin carbs (didn't think the L model would have them) leaked a bit but otherwise it drove well. It is blocked in so I couldn't verify it, I couldn't even get the door open due to the shell over a Spitfire next to it. He said it needed welding around the boot and rear nearside but apart from that was solid.

 

This is when it got strange he started saying he wasn't sure about selling it as he felt he was giving it away and that he had to pay rent on the unit blah, blah, blah, especially as I would not be able to take delivery of it until early October.

 

Then he started saying that he had been offered money for the engine and box by a mini owner and he was seriously considering it and weighing in the shell. I know it is possible to fit the E series into a Mini but I didn't think it was that popular. He asked if I would be interested in just the shell minus engine and box, I told him know.

 

He was sounding very grumpy and slightly depressed about it saying he did not want to give it away and that even though he didn't want to break it, he might because of the money!

 

 

We left it as me saying I would think about it and ring him in one week. On his part he agreed with that and says that he may feel differently in a week about the whole situation but he would not accept less than £300. He may accept this offer for the engine and box.

 

I suspect he wants me to offer more than £300, I think he is trying some kind of emotional blackmail. I know Allegro prices are slowly rising but a non mot'd and taxed brown series 3 needing some welding and fettling is not worth more.

 

The plus points are:

 

It looks solid bodywise and interior

It is a 1500 which is the one I would really like

 

Bad points are:

 

Needs a bit of welding although not much

As I did not get the chance to hear it, it is a bit of an unknown quantity

 

I may offer £300 next week and if he says know then I will just walk away. I am not going to pay more thats for sure!

[Mr Livered]

I bloody hate it when someone reports a death on here or whatever and then loads of people who don't even know the 'announcer' and who certainly have absolutely no idea who the deceased is all chip in with their e-condolances, its flipping ridiculous.

I understand that point of view entirely.

 

On the other hand, I am perfectly capable of giving a shit about someone I haven't met in person but have only chatted to online. If a shiter posts to say that they've been shaken up by someone dying, I can't see the problem with showing said shiter a spot if sympathy/empathy.

 

Then we can move on and talk about cars. The clutch on my Minx is a fuggin nightmare.

[Craig the Princess]

Walk away, that allegro sounds shonkey and overpriced at £300.

[Bobthebeard]

I bloody hate it when someone reports a death on here or whatever and then loads of people who don't even know the 'announcer' and who certainly have absolutely no idea who the deceased is all chip in with their e-condolances, its flipping ridiculous.

Fair point, but a tad harsh perhaps?

An Internet 'family' is still a family of sorts surely?

Ok, we don't know each other as such, but we do converse daily.

For some people it may be the only 'family' or support they have...

Anyway.. Enough of that eh?

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Yo Organist, the guy sounds like a bit of a chump, I suspect he's one of these who loves his old car fleet a bit too much and ends up not knowing his arse from his elbow. No-one arses about fitting 1500 E-series engines into Minis these days, they might have done back in 1981 but nowadays why would you? in 2013 you'd fit a VTEC or whatever if you wanted loads of grief and a fast mini with a funny-shaped front end. So ignore that story, he's either made it up or has met someone with a load of pie-in-the-sky ideas that will never come to fruition outside their own mind.

 

I say stick to your guns with the £300, or maybe offer him a token extra £25 to allow him to sell you the car without appearing to 'lose face' over his hopeless bargaining skills.

[cort16]

I think seeing 30 tenners in your hand (or 300 pound coins in a lidl carrier bag) in front of him may change his mind.

[theorganist]

Thanks for the input guys. I will sleep on it for a few days!

 

I don't know whether to believe the story or not, if it was a 1275cc A series I would believe it!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

E-series into a mini used to get done occasionally, but its a massive load of work and if someone was going to put themselves through all that they probably would use a 1750 would they not? I reckon his tale is bullsh.

[theorganist]

E-series into a mini used to get done occasionally, but its a massive load of work and if someone was going to put themselves through all that they probably would use a 1750 would they not? I reckon his tale is bullsh.

Well that's what I thought to be honest.

 

I think he is just trying it on!

[fiatdaft]

Some of the grumps on here are rather lame for sure, if that's all you have to worry about,well done to you grumpers!

[Lankytim]

If it's advertised on bumtree as having a 1300cc engine then it would deffo attract the attention of Mini engine rapists. Imagine their anger when the bonnet is opened to reveal a lovely E series! 

 

I recon you should tell him to sell the engine and see what happens. I think it's worth scrap value tops.

 

I know someone who is selling an un-MOT'd Allegro estate 1500 with twin carbs. It's had a new front panel and needs a few bits and pieces but is in very good order overall. 

[Timewaster]

My grumble

Signs that say "KEEP APART TWO CHEVRONS"

 

A Porsche came past me on that stretch of the M11 with the chevrons.

 

I dam near killed myself and the car trying to keep 2 chevrons behind him.

 

Badoom Tische!

[theorganist]

If it's advertised on bumtree as having a 1300cc engine then it would deffo attract the attention of Mini engine rapists. Imagine their anger when the bonnet is opened to reveal a lovely E series!

 

I recon you should tell him to sell the engine and see what happens. I think it's worth scrap value tops.

 

I know someone who is selling an un-MOT'd Allegro estate 1500 with twin carbs. It's had a new front panel and needs a few bits and pieces but is in very good order overall.

Reading the advert again I must have dreamt it!

 

The estate sounds interesting do you have any more info?

[theorganist]

A Porsche came past me on that stretch of the M11 with the chevrons.

 

I dam near killed myself and the car trying to keep 2 chevrons behind him.

 

Badoom Tische!

Very good!

[dollywobbler]

Run away from the Aggro Mr Organist. Sounds dodgy in many different ways! There are still enough Allegros out there. I think a Series 3 1300 would be very desirable. I'm not a fan of the 1500.

[Cavcraft]

If he's told you £300 then it's £300 or you should consider telling him to FRO. I despise people who do that kind of thing and have lost count how many deals I've walked away from, even when they were still really cheap, if the seller cocks on his original price. Tell him it was £300 and that's it, if he wants more then good luck selling it but you're not interested anymore.

 

 

*Edit it's nothing to do with him 'not being sure' and 'giving it away' it's purely because the daft twat had it advertised as a 1.3 so was probably pestered to death by Mini owners on the phone and has now imaged that multiple phone calls=it being worth shit loads more.

[Cavcraft]

The thing is, it just stops you in your tracks, and you never really get taught what to do in these circumstances. I think some people get a bit carried away with the 'oh, I'd better say condolences or something' even when they haven't a clue about what's going on really. I'm afraid I never do that. I just take note and make a mental note to avoid any banter for a few days with that person. Anyway, that was my post, the world moves on and now someone should post something nice and trivial again - which is what this thread is about really! Anger at silliness.

 

I don't think it's about people 'not having a clue' I think it's more they feel a respect (or whatever) for the person who posted the message and just sort of want them to know they feel sorry for them I suppose.

You wouldn't have (nor indeed want) to know why someone's relative/mate/neighbour died, but if they were close to the person who posted the comment are people really wrong for offering condolences?

[cort16]

If you met a friend who told you about someone they're close to who died but you don't know the friend you'd still give your condolences.

I think when someone passes away you should be sorry for the people left behind as they're the one's that have to deal with it.

[theorganist]

Run away from the Aggro Mr Organist. Sounds dodgy in many different ways! There are still enough Allegros out there. I think a Series 3 1300 would be very desirable. I'm not a fan of the 1500.

True I think I will probably give it a miss!

[dollywobbler]

I guess that sounds fair enough. I'm not really an expert on it to tell the truth. I hadn't even been to a funeral until I was in my early 20s. (and even then I got grumpy because we were all in the church and I never got to see the hearse).

[theorganist]

If he's told you £300 then it's £300 or you should consider telling him to FRO. I despise people who do that kind of thing and have lost count how many deals I've walked away from, even when they were still really cheap, if the seller cocks on his original price. Tell him it was £300 and that's it, if he wants more then good luck selling it but you're not interested anymore.

 

 

*Edit it's nothing to do with him 'not being sure' and 'giving it away' it's purely because the daft twat had it advertised as a 1.3 so was probably pestered to death by Mini owners on the phone and has now imaged that multiple phone calls=it being worth shit loads more.

I won't go above 300. I think I would want to get a better look again. Probably be best looking elsewhere. I have one maxi I am committed to anyway. And possibly a second.

[chaseracer]

Signs that say "KEEP APART TWO CHEVRONS"

Usually, I keep apart four chevrons; like most Citroens, the Blingo has two on the front and two on the back.

[HillmanImp]

My sex life has sadly died. It had been on a gradual decline for several years now and had been on a support machine for the last 6 months. However the doctors said that whilst it gave the impression of being alive, there is actually nothing there and its been switched off for good.

[Cavcraft]

My sex life has sadly died. It had been on a gradual decline for several years now and had been on a support machine for the last 6 months. However the doctors said that whilst it gave the impression of being alive, there is actually nothing there and its been switched off for good.

 

OMG RIP LITTEL SOLJA. SOZ 2 EAR THIS M8 I OPE HE WENT THE SAME WAY AS MIN AND JUS COLAPSSED IN BED AND NEVER WOKED UP. U R IN MY FORTS M8.

[RedSparrow]

RIP MOATY WIV DA ANGLES.

[Cavcraft]

So, what you're saying is, Hillman Imp's love truncheon shot coppers in the eye?

[autofive]

My sex life has sadly died. It had been on a gradual decline for several years now and had been on a support machine for the last 6 months. However the doctors said that whilst it gave the impression of being alive, there is actually nothing there and its been switched off for good.

 

 

would you like to send gazza around with a dressing gown and chicken jalfrazi?