The grumpy thread

[AlabamaShrimp]

In a small update to the grump about the supposed cubs being run by wankers.

 

After Mrs Shrimp has asked a couple of questions via Facebook (all nice non augmenty type stuff) to the woman who organises most of it, never getting a straight answer, this woman has now unfriended her...

 

Er what? If it was a mistake that mini Shrimp missed a trip then it was a mistake. A quick sorry, even if you don't mean it, and we'll all carry on. Now it just looks like it was on purpose (weather it was or not) that him and another boy missed it.

 

It was already decided he wasn't going back there and now I'm glad we made that decision, shame the real cubs up the road are full.

[Angrydicky]

No other troops/packs locally? When I was a member (albeit several years ago) there were various ones to choose from. No "Baden Powell" nonsense either.

[Ghosty]

Glad to see 'no politics' is a thing here now

[Cavcraft]

Isn't it better to go down the debate rather than delete route? That way if a member has made a massive whang of themselves it's there in perpetuity as a monument to their glorious ineptitude.

 

Nope, because it'll just lead to more shit slinging.

[Pillock]

 

 

It was already decided he wasn't going back there and now I'm glad we made that decision, shame the real cubs up the road are full.

The real cubs should run some sort of waiting list you can ask to join. Some groups here have two nights per week because there were enough kids waiting to justify it.

 

There is a way to jump the queue normally which involves wearing a necker and getting involved It's how I started as an Occasional Helper, doesn't even have to be every week.

[GrumpiusMaximus]

It still causes arguments and offence to people though, and having read the thread this morning it was way beyond the dreadful use of weapons or whatever. Also, had you read the thread properly there was a lot of 'politics' involved.

Time after time we get this 'debate' and no, removing certain posts is NOT the answer as it just causes more arguments. The simplest way to avoid this sort of thing is to just not post anything at all like this, however well intentioned it may have started out as.

 

But we knew that already, didn't we?

 

As one of the offenders in this instance, I extend my apologies.

[GrumpiusMaximus]

In a small update to the grump about the supposed cubs being run by wankers.

 

After Mrs Shrimp has asked a couple of questions via Facebook (all nice non augmenty type stuff) to the woman who organises most of it, never getting a straight answer, this woman has now unfriended her...

 

Er what? If it was a mistake that mini Shrimp missed a trip then it was a mistake. A quick sorry, even if you don't mean it, and we'll all carry on. Now it just looks like it was on purpose (weather it was or not) that him and another boy missed it.

 

It was already decided he wasn't going back there and now I'm glad we made that decision, shame the real cubs up the road are full.

 

To be honest, I'm not bloody surprised.  The Baden-Powell lot sounded like a right bunch from your first post on here.  Petty and passive-aggressive, as well as lax with child protection rules.  Hopefully your boy doesn't lose out and is able to join something soon.

[robinmasters]

Not really worth its own thread but I'm a bit surprised by this

 

My sister lives 150 miles from me , she rang me Thursday , she has a motability Volvo which was due its 2 year service , has to be done at a main dealer , nearest one is 15 miles away so she took it over , got a courtesy car

 

When she collected it they told her one of the tyres was on 1.2mm in the middle due to over inflation so illegal , it has tyre pressure sensors , she's never touched the tyres

 

,kwikfit is the motability supplier so she drove it round to them , by this time it was gone 5pm so they couldn't fit it in so she drove the 15 miles home with a bald tyre , tried kwikfit mobile but they couldn't do anything until Monday

 

She rang me asking what she should do , I told her not to drive it until it has a legal tyre on it

 

Should I be surprised a main Volvo dealer had a car with an illegal tyre pass though the workshop then allow the customer to drive it away .

For every person complaining Volvo let a customer drive home with a bald tyre, there's five people complaining that Kwik Fit tried to stop them driving home with 50% worn but perfectly safe brake pads.

 

They told her the tyre was bald. Her choice to drive it home. They could have let her keep the courtesy car a bit longer, but why the fuck is it their problem that she'd let the tyre get illegal?

[AlabamaShrimp]

Sadly there's not other groups near by and I'm not sure on a waiting list but we've got the number so going to give them a ring.

 

I wasn't in the scouts but I did think it was all about inclusion and stuff like that. These lot just come across as weird but not in a good way.

[twosmoke300]

How old is the boy ? What about air cadets ? I enjoyed my time there and teaches you lots of important life skills

[AlabamaShrimp]

He's only 8 so a hit too young yet.

[DodgeRover]

Sadly there's not other groups near by and I'm not sure on a waiting list but we've got the number so going to give them a ring.

 

I wasn't in the scouts but I did think it was all about inclusion and stuff like that. These lot just come across as weird but not in a good way.

I was never into that sort of thing either to be honest but my son had such a good time, I'm beginning to think I might have missed out.

 

I think Air Cadets/ Army Cadets etc don't start till you are at secondary school maybe not in the first year either.

 

Hopefully you will get some news on the waiting list when you give them a call or they may know which packs/ troops in the area have a spaces.

[castros_bro]

For every person complaining Volvo let a customer drive home with a bald tyre, there's five people complaining that Kwik Fit tried to stop them driving home with 50% worn but perfectly safe brake pads.

 

They told her the tyre was bald. Her choice to drive it home. They could have let her keep the courtesy car a bit longer, but why the fuck is it their problem that she'd let the tyre get illegal?

 

If only cars (and Volvos) carried a spare wheel then someone could have popped that on and she could have dropped baldy tire off then picked it up a day or so late with  its new boot.

[angle]

^^^ Don't think she heated it enough to boil it, just 45 seconds or so to warm it up a bit... either way, that's not one for the cocktail book! Stomach was making threatening noises all night long and the taste of oranges haunted my dreams...

 

EDIT: this is the liqueur...

 

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At least, I'm labouring under the understanding that this was a liqueur of some description... no doubt someone's gonna pop up and tell me it's actually that well-known brand, Happy Rabbit Nail Polish Remover... or some sort of Japanese Redex...

My Japanese is at a level where I can slowly read books with chewable pages, but I'm going with 'Santori Cake Magic Brandy'

 

Edit: Suntory. Described as 'brandy that is most suitable for the making of cake'

[Des]

Why are Mobility providing cars without spare wheels? These cars are considered an essential, how can compromising reliability with cans of sploodge and nasty little fag lighter pumps be acceptable?

[myglaren]

My Japanese is at a level where I can slowly read books with chewable pages, but I'm going with 'Santori Cake Magic Brandy'

 

Edit: Suntory. Described as 'brandy that is most suitable for the making of cake'

Odd - I have a bottle of some posh Suntory whiskey. (Birthday present).

Suntory whiskey was vilified when it first started but was proclaimed best in the world a year or two ago.

[angle]

If we're going Japanese whisky, then Nikka From the Barrel is what you need in your life.

[Slartibartfast]

Why are Mobility providing cars without spare wheels? These cars are considered an essential, how can compromising reliability with cans of sploodge and nasty little fag lighter pumps be acceptable?

 

All motability cars are provided without spare wheels, and if you suffer a puncture you are required as part of the agreement to call the nominated recovery service. So I was told by a friend who has a motability car and suffered a puncture. I have NO idea why this is, but possibly something to do with liability? If a disabled person were to injure themselves attempting to change a tyre, or a third party garage were to make a mistake fitting the spare it would result in liability for the government? That's conjecture but the only reason I can think of for it to be this way. Alternatively it's a combination of cost saving (cars without spare wheels are cheaper) and a racket (partnership with recovery company).

[AMC Rebel]

Not really worth its own thread but I'm a bit surprised by this

 

My sister lives 150 miles from me , she rang me Thursday , she has a motability Volvo which was due its 2 year service , has to be done at a main dealer , nearest one is 15 miles away so she took it over , got a courtesy car

 

When she collected it they told her one of the tyres was on 1.2mm in the middle due to over inflation so illegal , it has tyre pressure sensors , she's never touched the tyres

 

,kwikfit is the motability supplier so she drove it round to them , by this time it was gone 5pm so they couldn't fit it in so she drove the 15 miles home with a bald tyre , tried kwikfit mobile but they couldn't do anything until Monday

 

She rang me asking what she should do , I told her not to drive it until it has a legal tyre on it

 

Should I be surprised a main Volvo dealer had a car with an illegal tyre pass though the workshop then allow the customer to drive it away .

 

Whilst I sympathise - judging by the amount of cars I see most days in shop car parks with deadly illegal tyres, there's not a lot of risk of getting caught.

 

I'd have thought that one last drive to Kwik Fit would be worth the risk - 1.2mm isn't OMG cords showing through dead Nuns and Kittens territory, although strictly illegal.

 

As for tyre pressure sensors - if they are like the ones in my old Jaag or my other half's modern Seat, they don't monitor correct pressure, just any sudden(or gradual) change or extremely low pressures.

[Captain Furious]

I don't think it is a case of Motability specifically providing cars without spare wheels, I mean, they're not actively taking them out...its just that most cars nowadays don't come with them.

 

My Dad had a motability Rover 75 in 2004 and that had a full size spare.  He changed it in 2007 for a Honda Accord which just had a can of gunk, so he bought one himself from Honda for £50 or whatever it was.  I think its still in my mums garage because when he died we took it out before they had the car back - along with everything else that it hadn't come with and he'd had to buy out of his own money, floor mats, boot liner etc.

 

My mums Fiesta didn't come with a spare either, I bought her one off ebay.  That's not motability but its the same principle.  Also cars that come with RFT often don't even have room for a spare because they were never intended to have one.  Modern times innit...

[Guest Hooli]

Why are Mobility providing cars without spare wheels? These cars are considered an essential, how can compromising reliability with cans of sploodge and nasty little fag lighter pumps be acceptable?

 

Lease car innit?

 

I've had lease vans in two jobs, in both cases we weren't allowed to fit the spare. We had to call their nominated company. Who then took the spare to get the tyre replaced & were never seen again...

[Mally]

All motability cars are provided without spare wheels, and if you suffer a puncture you are required as part of the agreement to call the nominated recovery service. So I was told by a friend who has a motability car and suffered a puncture. I have NO idea why this is, but possibly something to do with liability? If a disabled person were to injure themselves attempting to change a tyre, or a third party garage were to make a mistake fitting the spare it would result in liability for the government? That's conjecture but the only reason I can think of for it to be this way. Alternatively it's a combination of cost saving (cars without spare wheels are cheaper) and a racket (partnership with recovery company).

 

Absolutely not true.

If manufacturer fits a spare, spacesaver or whatever, that is what you get.

If a spare is available as an extra you can specify one and pay for it. I have done so myself.

If you or your passenger can change the wheel then you can do so.

Otherwise you ring the RAC and they plug it if possible or Kwik fit sort you out.

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

Oh,

 

Lewy body disease can get in the sea

 

My mothers iq was around 150 (yes, i know, hard talking when aged 21 and returning home pissed as a fart)

 

Now it is the equivalent of 90.

 

Only going one way

 

Fucksticks

 

 

I am sorry to read that. It's awful.

[bub2006]

Why are Mobility providing cars without spare wheels? These cars are considered an essential, how can compromising reliability with cans of sploodge and nasty little fag lighter pumps be acceptable?

My motability car is same. Most manufacturers charge for a spare now. Mine came with one which was £105 option.

[BavarianRetro]

....

So simply if it is politics it is removed. Same with religion or porn.

But the, "New advert on the telly", misogyny, and "Women we want to shag" sexism are OK.

 

Moderation in the open forum - only visible to members - is in my view, a joke.

 

Close the place or leave members to discuss what they want to, subject to to legal restrictions.

[Parky]

If we're going Japanese whisky, then Nikka From the Barrel is what you need in your life.

When you look at the history of Nikka and Suntory, they copied the Scottish methodology very closely, the original protagonists studying distilling over here in the 1920's and taking their new found skills and knowledge home with them.

 

Nowadays Japanese whiskies compare very favourably with the more traditional Highland beverage.

[Datsuncog]

My Japanese is at a level where I can slowly read books with chewable pages, but I'm going with 'Santori Cake Magic Brandy'

 

Edit: Suntory. Described as 'brandy that is most suitable for the making of cake'

 

Oh right - so it's cooking brandy, basically? Well, that would explain a lot.

 

While also acting as a companion to the time I found myself in a cheap hotel room near Ueno Park, sipping what I believed to be sake from the Seven-Eleven on the corner.

 

Turned out to be cooking sherry.

 

*sigh*

 

Definitely some top Japanese whiskies out there, mind. Just not the ones that come in jars.

[cort1977]

I was never into that sort of thing either to be honest but my son had such a good time, I'm beginning to think I might have missed out.

 

I think Air Cadets/ Army Cadets etc don't start till you are at secondary school maybe not in the first year either.

 

Hopefully you will get some news on the waiting list when you give them a call or they may know which packs/ troops in the area have a spaces.

 

I have been a scout leader in the past and help out with my boy's cub pack now.  How good a group is depends almost entirely on the leaders, an enthusiastic leader who can get the children doing stuff, run a few games and get the badgework ticked off will very quickly see a successful group emerge where everyone has a good time.

 

I don't know much about the B-P scouts but it all sounds a bit odd and focused more on the nostalgia for the adults than anything the kids want to do.  All that traditional uniform stuff is nonsense anyway, Baden-Powell in his books recommends clothing for running around in the bush and a necker as a useful thing that can wipe sweat, be a bandage or cover your mouth, it's not supposed to be a starched uniform like a Rear Admiral.  So the uniform should support the activity, not be an end in itself.

 

Please don't give up on the Scout movement, like everything there are good people and less good people but I honestly think the fundamental idea of getting kids outdoors and letting them experience nature and do things for themselves is more important now than ever.

[fordperv]

For cunt fuck sake ive dropped my phone and broke the screen, that'll be another £230 for a replacement, this will be its 4th screen

[Cavcraft]