The Burd's MK1 Golf Rivage - Cleaned and Prepped for Use 01/05/25

[billy_bunter]

progress is progress

An option on the pipes is PIRTEC the have most of the relevant stuff plus a lot of connectors that will do the job.

What wet vac are you using. I am thinking of cleaning the focus seats

[320touring]

2 hours ago, billy_bunter said:

progress is progress

An option on the pipes is PIRTEC the have most of the relevant stuff plus a lot of connectors that will do the job.

What wet vac are you using. I am thinking of cleaning the focus seats

I think the pipes may actually be ok, either way new ones can be bought 

As for the wet vac - it's one of these I got for free from @blackboilersuit

There is one here

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114198893512

All you need is the small head 

[320touring]

After quite the pause, the Burd had time to work on this today.

 

First thing up was to try and sort the oil pressure buzzer which went off above 2.5k rpm. 

Previously we had applied voltage to it from the battery and it solved it. This suggested the sensor was FUBAR.

The high pressure sensor is located on the top of the oil cooler at the front of the engine.

As can be seen it is :

a) handily* placed between the dizzy and the warm up regulator.

b) not in its first flush of youth.

it's a 24mm, but the spade connection sticks up so you can't get a ratchet into the socket. The solution was to bend the spade connection over. The socket then slides on and the ratchet can be applied.

Twas not looking good.

The new one went in no problem. Screwed it in by hand, and then nipped it up with a shifting spanner. I didn't have a 24mm spanner, and access is tight because of the radiator.

 

As this is the burds car, and we are doing thing properly, the next task was a new oil low pressure sensor.

This one is easier to access on the side of the head.

It came off no problem, with a slight dribble of oil that was caught by some kitchen roll.

Again it went back in with no issue.

 

We then fired up the car, and once warm raised the revs. No pressure warning

 

Further motivated we decided to do some more running investigation.

This is how it runs with the relay slot bridged with wire:

If you give it a few secs to build pressure before starting it idles better. 

We then fitted a new fuel pump relay (directly above the grey relay)

 It's designed to switch on with the ignition so doesn't build pressure til cranking. Runs worse with this fitted.

Suggests that the main fuel pump under the car is not making sufficient pressure all the time.

From my understanding, the fuel set up on the golf is:
In tank lift pump, feeds the main pump.
Main pump feeds the accumulator and line in (metering head needs to see 50PSI, and the accumulator helps this)

The injectors are always open 

Fuelling to injectors is controlled by the vacuum from the engine sucking on a plate in the air inlet that moves a metering pin.

Unused fuel returns via the metering head to the tank.

An aftermarket pump should be able to flow enough fuel at sufficient pressure to feed the metering head without an accumulator surely?

So I now have to work out how I can test this..

 

In the meantime, we took the fusebox out for cleaning :

 

I'd say it was going well*

[MJK 24]

Great thread, great machinery.

Don’t be too daunted at the thought of tank renewal. It’s not especially difficult, just takes some time.

Remove the rear silencer and drop the axle.  Plus Gas etc on the four mounting studs and the shock bottom bolts a week in advance is a good idea!  You’ll probably end up replacing the rear brake hoses, so have a new pair handy.

Good luck ?

[320touring]

After a significant hiatus it was all go on this today.

Firstly there was the obligatory "how long does it take to put a fusebox back in?" Answer, nearly an hour!

Why? Well, you need the fusebox in to have lights.

 

And what were the lights needed for?

 

Well...

Due to the generosity and help of two fine shiters @davehedgehog31 and @davidfowler2000, this happened:

 

 

the glorious boosted XUD made short work of towing the golf - Maister Fowler doing a grand helmsmanship as per.

The golf now resides in @davehedgehog31's nice warm and dry garage - hopefully meaning we can get time to work on it in preparation for next year.

 

Thanks again Gents!

[davidfowler2000]

Not exactly the ideal tow car but I'd rather have underweight and diminutively sized to the 740 which would have had the tow pole at a 45 degree angle due to differing sides of towing eye

[320touring]

Young @Split_Pin sent me the link to this video

 

Very similar symptoms to the Burds motor.

 

I think I shall order up a main fuel pump and see if I can figure out a way to clear the lines ( once I can get to the car)

[320touring]

A scant* month and a bit later, some actual effort was made to find out what fuel pump was fitted.

First things first, the golf was pushed til the passengers side was close to the garage wall

My arse looks good in those troos 🤣

Then it was time to hunt the quarry..

Tucked up next to the fuel tank and the rear axle.. all the connections looked original.

Young @Skizzer Audi fuel pump swap video for his Audi was most useful in informing the approach taken..

The cage holding the pump has a couple of rubber bobbins that isolate it from the car body to reduce vibrations. One was completely sheared. The other is intact. The cage came away cleanly.

The connections were another thing entirely.

The inlet from the tank is only held on with a jubilee clip, but the fuel line was so old and hardened, it needed water pump pliers to twist it off.

The front connection is a 19mm nut that holds a banjo fitting on to take the high pressure

 

Some jiggery pokery and persuasion later,  and we had the pump hanging down so we could get at the high pressure connection easier.

Now it's removed, I can get the new pump and bobbins ordered.

 

May even get it fitted next weekend!

 

Then sort the fusebox connections and see if it fires.

[Skizzer]

That looks awfully like the correct pump that Autodoc was supposed to send me for the Audi (and charged me £80-odd for), rather than the £15 knock off they actually sent with the wrong connections.

Good sourcing skills sir.

[320touring]

Having looked again, the pumps may not be here til the 6th April☹️

[320touring]

Fuel pump and bobbins ordered

the fuel pump had a 20% discount so I got it for £38.94..

Hopefully they will arrive before Easter so I can roll away the stone..

[loserone]

Helps to pay for the items too chief.

 

 

Excellent work pushing that car sideways though, that's mega impressive

[320touring]

2 hours ago, loserone said:

Helps to pay for the items too chief.

 

 

Excellent work pushing that car sideways though, that's mega impressive

I had them in my basked and paid - spit into two transactions..

 

Something about the pump seller using a new payment method?

Showing paid now:)

And aye, it slides easy;)

[jaypee]

Here's hoping it's taps aff soon! 

[320touring]

I met socially distanced with brutha_touring @jaypee today.

Rolls n skwerr and rolls n bacon were consumed before the days graft..

We fitted the new fuel pump.

Here we see the new fuel pump wrapped up in the foam insulated, laughing mightily at the old Bosch pump..

hark at the refurbished* (vactan and a quick skoosh of paint) cradle, including new bobbin mounts.

This was all cobbled together and re-fitted.

Initial starting was poor due to a tired battery (despite it being charged yesterday). 

Adding a second battery soon had it fired.

Initial impression was a better running situation - idle smoother, not as surging.

 

It still stuttered a bit when revving. 

The multimeter said the battery was a 10v, and the alternator was not charging it. 

Obviously, this would mean the fuel pumps ran slow too.

 

We switched off and had a look at the alternator. The belt was looser than Joan Collins..

Us :"No bother, We'll nip up the adjuster"

The adjuster:

This has fewer teeth than me. Sub-optimal.

So... We did what you shouldn't do.

We took the one off the working car

This was fitted to get the alternator to move and the belt tightened.

That done, we were seeing 13.75v at idle, much more like the thing.

It was reversed into the garage and the bolt removed and refitted to the Toledo so we could go home for lunch.

Then the hailstones came on, and work was patched for the day.

 

It's good to see some progress, next job is hunting down the alternator adjuster..

[jaypee]

Good wee bit of progress today man, slow and steady 😎

[hairnet]

wisnae about the car today?

squair obvs

when is meat so sassenachs can say hello

[320touring]

Some good news!

Thanks to @juular , @davidfowler2000 and @jaypee for coming over this morning to have some time working on this.

 

Juular brought the Kjet pressure testing kit, and it was mainly good news.

fuel pressure is tremendous - bang on reference at 5bar as per pic above.

The fuel pressure regulator needs adjusting as it is causing it to run lean - hence running issues.

It now idles great and can be driven onto the trailer.

On Monday it's off to a tame golf whisperer and we are hoping it will be on the road ASAP.

[320touring]

SVM assist was booked for this morning.

At the allotted hour, @davidfowler2000 rolled up with the chrailer. Many thanks to him for giving up the day off, and providing the towcar/pilot duties.

I'll allow him to provid the economy update!/

@Supernaut helped with the loading. Cheers to him for the assistance

Despite getting the car running on Saturday the fuel pump appears to have decided to die.. thankfully it's light enough to shove.

 

Strapped down and off we go

 

First impressions of the Volvo as a tow car - effortless.

4wd and 300+bhp makes short work of everything in sight. 

Much fun was had racing cars from lights and up hills, and many drivers were surprised. It's D5 looks do not betray the power!

 

Once down at the secret @Mk2 Craig golfporium, it was up on the ramp to get a list of worked figured out.

happily, it looks a pretty solid little car!

 

as you can see, a backbox is on the list!

 

now it is just a waiting game for the work to be identified and done.

 

To celebrate, we took the trailer to see the sea..

Then had lunch in salubrious surroundings..

[davidfowler2000]

59 minutes ago, 320touring said:

I'll allow him to provid the economy update!/

 

59 minutes ago, 320touring said:

 

First impressions of the Volvo as a tow car - effortless.

4wd and 300+bhp makes short work of everything in sight. 

Much fun was had racing cars from lights and up hills, and many drivers were surprised. It's D5 looks do not betray the power!

Nummers? Ya want eh nummers? Awrite then...
V70 : 1900KGish ULW
70L of petrol (~52KG)
1 x Driver and 2 passengers (~You decide weight)
Trailer : Brian James A4 (~700KG)
Load : Golf GTI Floppy Top (~1000KG)
All up estimated WECHT : 3800 - 4000KG

Power : 304PS (299bhp) @ 5600rippums
Torque : 440nm (325lb-ft) @ 2100-4200rippums

Journey:
Glasgow City Centre - Stirling (pickup @Supernautand the trailer) - Cumbernauld (load trailer and pickup @320touring) - Old Inns Cafe - M80 - M73 - M74 - M77 - A77 - Maybole (Unload trailer) - Dunure - Ayr - Dutch House Services - A77 - M77 - M74 - M73 - M80 - Cumbernauld (drop off @320touring) - Stirling (drop off trailer and @Supernaut) - M80 - M73 - 74 - A725 - East Kilbride

Total distance fill up to fill up : 239.4 miles
Driving style : Cruise control but heavy shoeing when required to stop cunts taking the piss.

MPGs:

[320touring]

This MPG figure is all the more surprising as the average when not towing is only about 28/9ish? @davidfowler2000

[davidfowler2000]

[Supernaut]

Admittedly I just came along for the day out.

I still have zero social life outside AS in the Central Belt... 🤣

 

 

That whole bit of coastline down in Ayrshire was rather nice. I'll need to make a point to go back to that area at some point.

[AnnoyingPentium]

13 minutes ago, Supernaut said:

That whole bit of coastline down in Ayrshire was rather nice. I'll need to make a point to go back to that area at some point.

Dunure is a nice bit, just watch as the car park will sometimes fleece you in the summer for parking. 😂

[320touring]

Time for an update on this.

@Mk2 Craig has had an absolute war with this old thing.  Initially the plan was to get it running correctly and in for an MOT. Estimate was a week.

This was back in April.

We collected it on Tuesday 2nd Aug.

I'd just like to thank Craig for his determination and patience in getting this into much better shape. An absolute gent.

What did he do?

Protect new fuel tank with underbody stone chip

Paint filler neck

Replace rubber fuel lines

Fit new fuel tank

10 litres of fuel

Replace rear wheel cylinders

Install brake flexi hoses

Clean up brake drums and shoes and adjust handbrake

Rebuild metering head

Rebuild warm up reg and unblock gauze filters and get working correctly 

Install new fuel filter

Installed new starter, as original starter was  intermittent.

Strip and unseize wiper motor.

Tidy up fuse box (replaced connectors on earth terminals) 

Re-wired front left indicators due to corroded wiring

Immobiliser failed causing fuel pump and starter to be inoperative, removed immobiliser 

Installed an indicator stalk due to left hand indicator not functioning as it should 

Installed a horn relay and wiper relay

Fitted second hand back box

There were plenty of delays  - waiting on warm up reg and metering head rebuild kits, waiting on an ultrasonic cleaner for cleaning parts, then the MOT tester had covid.

Throughout all this, Craig kept me up to date with progress and costs. 

As it was when picked up:

It had 6 months of dust on it - absolutely howling. Obviously, we took it straight to the poshest restaurant we could find in Ayr (really!).

With the golf and the Clio parked you could hear the houses nearby devaluing

It got back up the road ok, but had a missfire past 1/4 throttle, a rattle from the exhaust and the trip counter was screaming..

I messaged Craig and he came over today.

We spent some time checking and adjusting the fuel mix and pressure as the pressure when hot was slightly low.

It now sits at 54psi - in the middle of the 49-57 that Haynes suggests when warm.

Performance is much improved, and the Bird has been out a drive in it today.

We took it for a wash, and checked the tyre pressures. Despite having electric windows and a hydraulic hood, it has no power steering, so you need to give it the ole Popeye.

 it came up ok and we then had a run home with the roof down.  ACE. It drives like the 182- plenty torque, nippy and comfy.

 

I'll probably get the thing properly cleaned next week and then make a snagging list.

 

[Jim Bell]

Great news man. It looks very impressive. Well invested. 

[320touring]

1 hour ago, Jim Bell said:

Great news man. It looks very impressive. Well invested. 

Thanks man!

 

Think it will be on light duties for a bit, and a slow wander through the snagging list.

 

I started by clearing out the rear of the car and lubricating the locks, so some progress made

[320touring]

After realising I was dressed like the Golf

I decided to start cleaning the thing.

Today was mainly spent cleaning the mould etc off the interior.. the joys of convertible ownership in Scotland 😭

 

thankfully it comes off ok with antibacterial wipes.

The door shuts were done too

Sorry, no "after" pictures as I was in too much of a rush.

I got all the windows cleaned, the interior wiped down and the car hoovered.

I also hooked up the hydraulic roof which works well.

A wee bit more idle speed was dialled in too so it idles higher when cold.

 

Hopefully get more done this week

 

[320touring]

Took this over to the unit tonight for to do a few wee things on it.

It drove over ok still got a stutter though - suspect either an injector or spark fault. I have new injectors, and spark side stuff is cheap enough so will stock up.

As it arrived: (roof up as it was far too warm for my poor baldy napper)

 

First up was an oil and filter change. The car came with a new filter from @Skizzer and 10w40 was cheap insurance given that the car had been overfuelling before having the injection system rebuilt.

I also fitted a new seal to my Pela (cheers @Split_Pin) so that made oil removal simple.

It only holds 4L inc a filter change, and the filter is readily accessible at the front of the engine. Most pleasing.

 

Next up was a better wash:

Although this Rivage run out model has a body kit, I still think the original lines of the thing look great - and the dark blue suits it well.

There the followed a waxing session so the paint at least has some protection. Brother @jaypee was a grand help doing that.

The interior was next up.

 13 years of sitting had not been kind, and the light tan trim was pretty dirty.

The door cards and seats had markings and mould on them.

Thankfully this came off with a brush and some cleaner.

The rest of the interior was done;

Cleaned leather seats and applied leather wipes to feed them a bit

Cleaned door pockets, and moved various screws/fasteners to the ashtray🤣

The dash was cleaned - came up a treat!

Cleaned the steering wheel, with much goo removed.

 A wet vac carpets was done - there is a new carpet to go in but I don't want to do that until I pull out the seats to clean up the sliders. An initial pas has them looking a bit better, but still not great.

A seal was tidies up on the hood and screwed into place. Thanks to @dome for his help.

I then drove home top down in the dark - great fun!

 

[Supernaut]

Can confirm that this car is a lovely place to sit in the dark staring at the summer night sky. Even when it's just parked outside a unit.