eBay tat volume 3.

3,724 · April 30, 2024

4 minutes ago, SiC said:

Get used to using a grease gun.

Probably alright as a daily in the summer if you only driving short distances around a town.

When leaving Atwell Wilson Museum after a meet, I caught up with a Austin 7 (or similar) bumbling along the A4. The A4 is a hilly single carriageway 60mph road with plenty of wide straights where often people go even faster. Anyway unsurprisingly it was a mobile road block with a long queue of cars trying to get past. I think it was doing 40mph tops. They turned off after Avebury onto much more minor roads which I suspect was a much more pleasant experience for them after that.

Got to be a passenger in a Willys Jeep years ago, The owner was a classic car dealer on the same business park as where I work. With the windscreen down in top gear with the engine screaming away it felt like we were bombing along at a decent pace and it was only when we turned off the main road I saw the massive queue of cars that we had caused, I reckon we were only doing about 35mph

8,557 · April 30, 2024

2 hours ago, Cavcraft said:

How difficult are pre-war cars to live with/drive daily?

Firstly most of the economy ones are small, because the car's interior width doesn't include the wings (full width of the wheelbase) and because the car's ground clearance is high and then its floors (often in wood) sit on top of 4" of chassis. Secondly there's rarely much of a boot, so shopping for example goes onto the back seat. Then pre-war cars were mostly side-valve, of low compression (because of poor low grade fuels of that era) and with very crude carburation, so their performance is not exciting. The engines might have white metal bearings rather than shells. The brakes on economy cars were drum and small in diameter. And the gearbox was usually without synchromesh. Electrics and lighting was generally 6v positive earth. Heater might be an optional extra and screen demist was by open the windows. Car blankets were commonplace. Tyres and suspension basic, steering by steering box. Body structure often had timber framework which is susceptible to rot or boring insect. It's worth buying one that has been restored and treated.

If you go back and watch James Herriot's tales .. 'All Things Great and Small' - you'll begin to appreciate how often they were driven with open sides ..in all weathers.

Having said all that they can be a delight for nostalgic summer days motoring, their detail styling, aroma and general pleasantries of life. Their crude but separate chassis is a boon for rust prevention as are their bolt on wings. They were designed to be frequently maintained by everyman n' his dad, and many contemporary drivers make courteous allowance for their slow pace. Some pre-war cars were truly spectacular ..but they of course carry a premium price. Some pre-war vehicles evolved to serve well through the war years. Austin champ, Rover and Willys jeep of course being perhaps the best known. Various pre-war cars were carried over to the post war years. Personally I've always had a hankering for a Riley RM. The 2.5 ltr has a really long stroke engine that is a delight. i was also very tempted to buy Citroen's Traction Avant which is front wheel drive and has lower foot wells..

Many of the more common vintage cars are not a great investment as the population who appreciates them is now dying off. Buying one ..in good usable condition can be inexpensive, and then with low cost insurance and no tax or MOT - they are very cheap to run and as a hobby. They would best be garaged or under a car port as things like door and window seals usually leak.

I'd suggest if you have no experience of living with pre-war vehicles then you'd be best to start off with a post-war early Moggy 1000 or similar split screen car, to see how you get on with it. Many people love them. Of course the VW beetle was a pre-war design, but only introduced to the market after the war.

Hope that helps a little.

Pete

36,996 · April 30, 2024

22 minutes ago, Bfg said:

Many of the more common vintage cars are not a great investment as the population who appreciates them is now dying off.

As a motoring enthusiast, I can only see this as a good thing that the "investment" premium they used to attract is fading away. Allows it to be much more accessible those that want to drive and have fun with old cars.

1,846 · April 30, 2024

2 hours ago, Cavcraft said:

How difficult are pre-war cars to live with/drive daily?

I own a couple of pre-war cars.

I don't drive them that often as a daily driver, though I have done.

Brakes and handling are not par with moderns, so you have to plan ahead in your driving more.

Expect to be loved and hated by other road users at the same time. (Bit like riding a motorbike these days).

Quite enjoy taking them through the LEZ ...

20,258 · April 30, 2024

18k kilometres, first owner.

https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/auto-s/oldtimers/m2095484713-prachtige-morris-marina-1300-uit-1979

61,976 · April 30, 2024

6 hours ago, Mr Pastry said:

That's a home built body. Nicely done, but it isn't quite what it is claimed to be.

Thank you, I've looked at that advert and thought it didn't smell right, but didn't know enough to be sure.

61,976 · April 30, 2024

1 hour ago, Bfg said:

They would best be garaged or under a car port as things like door and window seals usually leak.

I wonder if this a tiny contributor to falling values, although all modern garages would get an Austin 7 in, most people want to use a garage for storage of clutter these days. A relative of mine has just bought a f-off massive new build house with a triple garage - can *barely* get his Bimmer SUV inside it.

I think you also have to live in a place where you can bimble round the lanes a bit - if you live next to a 60mph road - it's not going to be practical.

I had similar thoughts about the Citroen Ami (EV) - where could I actually useful drive it to in a circumference from our house?

9,313 · April 30, 2024

If you want the “ old car experience “ in a car with reasonable performance, that won’t break the bank, get a post war Austin 16. 2.2 ohv four pot, will cruise at 60 easily. Stopping, however….

59,571 · April 30, 2024

Be like @gm, only redder.

8,557 · April 30, 2024

2 hours ago, SiC said:

As a motoring enthusiast, I can only see this as a good thing that the "investment" premium they used to attract is fading away. Allows it to be much more accessible those that want to drive and have fun with old cars.

I have to agree with you. because of the investor's tax - the Triumph TR4 I longed for a bought 'cheap' was to me.. very expensive.

Conversely... the high values are a reflection of the cost of restoration. Not only parts but services such as specialist repair & mechanics (familiar with the marque) or a respray. Because such bills soon very quickly over ten-grand what do you think will happen to classic saloon cars which as Rockett88 demonstrates are valued at £7k.? Most of us don't want to spend good amounts of money on something that puts them in negative equity territory ..is only worth a fraction of what it costs. Inevitably more and more classic cars will be scrapped. They'll not be accessible.! As a motoring enthusiast high values help maintain numbers, and supplies for our cars repair and maintenance.

1 hour ago, egg said:

I wonder if this a tiny contributor to falling values, although all modern garages would get an Austin 7 in, most people want to use a garage for storage of clutter these days. A relative of mine has just bought a f-off massive new build house with a triple garage - can *barely* get his Bimmer SUV inside it.

I think you also have to live in a place where you can bimble round the lanes a bit - if you live next to a 60mph road - it's not going to be practical.

I had similar thoughts about the Citroen Ami (EV) - where could I actually useful drive it to in a circumference from our house.

Certainly, the size of some cars can very much limit their market appeal. As an example, just last year I very much wanted to buy a Jaguar Mk9 (big saloon). I'd spotted what appeared to be a nice car, with an interesting history, (unrestored and yet almost rust free) from South Africa for £9,000 ..but I was stomped by it needing barn-sized storage. Add £60-100 ..per month (ie., +/- £1000 a year) and the inconvenience of having to drive to wherever your car is parked before you can even use it puts many of us off. A Jaguar Mk2 is the next size down.. it's a foot and a half wider than my TR4, but it's quite small compared to many modern cars. That car though carries a fashion tax (it's appeal to maverick (would-be bank robbers) and to fans of Inspector Morse alike), and so instead I bought a Daimler 2½ instead. All the great looks and driving style but with a V8 motor. The Daimler fits into a integral garage with room to get the driver's door open, and room enough for a washing machine in the end of the garage. The Jaguar Mk9 was excellent value but I don't live in a mansion with stables.

Many other (usefully compact) cars are no longer viable for people who have little interest in mechanical care and attention. oor simply from working outside getting their hands filthy !

Just yesterday I was asked by a neighbour to check if he'd connected jump leads correctly. He simply couldn't afford to own a classic car or even any car that needed frequent maintenance. Even those who inherit old and interesting cars have no choice but to sell them, because the cost of garage maintenance is simply too expensive for the average young man or family with more pressing bills. Direct evidence of this in the number of cars being sold as a ' project' .. 'a barn-find' .. " ..my grandfathers" .. "been in the family for 30 years" .. "been off the road for xx years" .. "needs trailer" .. "for restoration" .. "needs light* recommissioning" .. "just needs x, y and z fixed" .. " easy fix" .. "abandoned project" .. .. ..

Only by proactively encouraging younger people to actively participate in ..and enjoy, their ownership.. which by economic necessity includes passing on the knowledge of maintenance and repair - will these cars survive as roadworthy examples. And if not roadworthy, they will steadily deteriorate beyond economic repair ..until the day they are scrapped.

Pete

20,258 · April 30, 2024

King of lacquer peel:

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/52262314/clean-title-1992-vauxhall-astra-ls-i-wolverhampton

20,258 · April 30, 2024

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/51862464/clean-title-1994-skoda-favorit-lx-sandy

Edit: just 10.000 miles it seems?

18,678 · April 30, 2024

15 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

Be like @gm, only redder.

odd how it’s on a 70 plate - looks a good build though

12,139 · April 30, 2024

61,976 · April 30, 2024

26 minutes ago, D.E said:

Edit: just 10.000 miles it seems?

might be broken odometer.

61,976 · April 30, 2024

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1835738650184968/

61,976 · April 30, 2024

An *insert collective noun* of Austins.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/361579610220844/

125,974 · April 30, 2024

4 hours ago, Bfg said:

Firstly most of the economy ones are small, because the car's interior width doesn't include the wings (full width of the wheelbase) and because the car's ground clearance is high and then its floors (often in wood) sit on top of 4" of chassis. Secondly there's rarely much of a boot, so shopping for example goes onto the back seat. Then pre-war cars were mostly side-valve, of low compression (because of poor low grade fuels of that era) and with very crude carburation, so their performance is not exciting. The engines might have white metal bearings rather than shells. The brakes on economy cars were drum and small in diameter. And the gearbox was usually without synchromesh. Electrics and lighting was generally 6v positive earth. Heater might be an optional extra and screen demist was by open the windows. Car blankets were commonplace. Tyres and suspension basic, steering by steering box. Body structure often had timber framework which is susceptible to rot or boring insect. It's worth buying one that has been restored and treated.

If you go back and watch James Herriot's tales .. 'All Things Great and Small' - you'll begin to appreciate how often they were driven with open sides ..in all weathers.

Having said all that they can be a delight for nostalgic summer days motoring, their detail styling, aroma and general pleasantries of life. Their crude but separate chassis is a boon for rust prevention as are their bolt on wings. They were designed to be frequently maintained by everyman n' his dad, and many contemporary drivers make courteous allowance for their slow pace. Some pre-war cars were truly spectacular ..but they of course carry a premium price. Some pre-war vehicles evolved to serve well through the war years. Austin champ, Rover and Willys jeep of course being perhaps the best known. Various pre-war cars were carried over to the post war years. Personally I've always had a hankering for a Riley RM. The 2.5 ltr has a really long stroke engine that is a delight. i was also very tempted to buy Citroen's Traction Avant which is front wheel drive and has lower foot wells..

Many of the more common vintage cars are not a great investment as the population who appreciates them is now dying off. Buying one ..in good usable condition can be inexpensive, and then with low cost insurance and no tax or MOT - they are very cheap to run and as a hobby. They would best be garaged or under a car port as things like door and window seals usually leak.

I'd suggest if you have no experience of living with pre-war vehicles then you'd be best to start off with a post-war early Moggy 1000 or similar split screen car, to see how you get on with it. Many people love them. Of course the VW beetle was a pre-war design, but only introduced to the market after the war.

Hope that helps a little.

Pete

That's brilliant, thank you.

Had a couple of Morris 1000s/Minors and they were brilliant for commuting (locally-ish) and pottering round in.

12,139 · April 30, 2024

I bloody love these

Thanks fuck the guy changed his mind about turning it into a "replica" to that unfunny fuckers car (if you can truly ever have a "replica" using the wrong model of car that is)

85,153 · April 30, 2024

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1387603305289703

3,867 · April 30, 2024

54 minutes ago, egg said:

*insert collective noun*

An investment of Austins? Value can go down as well as up....

3,335 · April 30, 2024

On 29/04/2024 at 16:06, Cavcraft said:

Mercedes Truck | eBay

I would rock this as a daily - slowest thing on wheels LOL drove a van version for 12 months delivering tatt to shops up and down the country, 55downhill with a tail wind and in neutral

But the description is Hilarious,

17,103 · April 30, 2024

5 hours ago, D.E said:

125,974 · April 30, 2024

1 hour ago, wesacosa said:

I bloody love these

Thanks fuck the guy changed his mind about turning it into a "replica" to that unfunny fuckers car (if you can truly ever have a "replica" using the wrong model of car that is)

It comes to something when you'd rather see a sodding Escort van than a replica of that absolute balloon's Volvo.

125,974 · April 30, 2024

fire engine commercial vehicles | eBay

'This was a personal Air B&B project, for a quirky design and holiday stay.'

17,267 · April 30, 2024

For the love of all that's holy, nobody considering dabbling in prewar cars should be considering a flippin' Austin Ruby, they're absolutely miserable shite and it'll put you off for life!