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[SiC]

It's playing ball at the moment.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH!

 

FFS

 

[davehedgehog31]

Well, after last nights pleasant fettling, we were due a snag.

 

Thought I'd swap the Rover's plugs quickly. First two, fine, whipped the third out with a squelch... socket covered in oil and the oil that was occupying that area presumably now in the cylinder.

 

A bit alarming but when thinking about it, the electrode end of the plugs were normal and it only affected cylinders 3 and 4 so imagine some kind of gasket between the spark plug wells and rocker cover needing renewing. The car doesn't use any oil and the level is correct. 

 

I guess any oil in the cylinder should be burned off quite quickly. 

[tommotech]

Fetched the Bini and it’s a solid little thing and a nice spec. It has glass sliding roof, Chilli Pack, and full leather. Also has traction control and dynamic stability.

 

However, the dash is lit like a Christmas tree, headlining needs attention, boot lock needs sorting and A/C is inoperative. Needs brakes all round and some fettling on the body.

 

Wheels are original but I’m not sure if I like them or not. Pedal rubbers have a Mini script on them and it appears that early incarceration’s didn’t have a glove box, just a parcel tray.

 

Is it worth the effort? I think so as these are a good steer and there is decent enough interest in early 2001 motors. It was also cheap, but that’s testament to the condition.

 

I will keep you all posted in my Bini thread and turn it into a project.

 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

Friday evening transport:

 

[Squire_Dawson]

I suppose taking the cylinder head off the Bentley isn't a DIY job? Could at least perform a compression test to check for sure, and see if all cylinder head nuts are torqued correctly?

[Guest Hooli]

I suppose taking the cylinder head off the Bentley isn't a DIY job? Could at least perform a compression test to check for sure, and see if all cylinder head nuts are torqued correctly?

 

if it was mine I'd give it a go, it's only a pushrod V8 after all.

[They_all_do_that_sir]

if it was mine I'd give it a go, it's only a pushrod V8 after all.

Same.

 

I'm sure someone will be along to correct us who actually knows these beasts but surely it's the same job in principle to that of any other similar engine?

 

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[Guest Hooli]

I suspect it's a lot of bits to take off first & a lot of expensive gaskets/seals to replace.

 

 

I Googled it, FFS! £1k in parts! http://www.flyingspares.com/shop/rolls-royce-spirit-spur-bentley-turbo-mulsanne/engine/brooklands-continental-azure/gaskets-seals/cylinder-head-gaskets-seals.html?mode=grid

[Ghosty]

Well, after last nights pleasant fettling, we were due a snag.

 

Thought I'd swap the Rover's plugs quickly. First two, fine, whipped the third out with a squelch... socket covered in oil and the oil that was occupying that area presumably now in the cylinder.

 

A bit alarming but when thinking about it, the electrode end of the plugs were normal and it only affected cylinders 3 and 4 so imagine some kind of gasket between the spark plug wells and rocker cover needing renewing. The car doesn't use any oil and the level is correct. 

 

I guess any oil in the cylinder should be burned off quite quickly. 

 

Take the rocker cover off and there are O-ring gaskets on the spark plug bores, these will need replacing. Easy job.

[MorrisItalSLX]

I have somehow ended up watching Chop Shop: London Garage, Leepu is currently butchering a London Black Cab.

 

God, it's shit.

[beko1987]

Friday evening transport:

 

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Oooh a Horsey Horeless Gti, the one with the optional horse for Greater SPM (shits per mile). Hope you took out the paint protection from the dealer...

[davehedgehog31]

Take the rocker cover off and there are O-ring gaskets on the spark plug bores, these will need replacing. Easy job.

Cheers Sir, good to have my thoughts sanity checked! Will get them ordered.

[SiC]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH!

 

FFS

 

So the stupid POS has started making a squealing noise. However it only makes it when warmed up and under moderate load. Usually after 10 minutes or so. Noise stays constant no matter which gear you are in, what revs or speed. This makes me think/hope it's not gearbox related. Also not belt related either.

 

Googling suggests that it's either the PCV valve or diverter valve. Usually though the PCV valve makes the noise at idle too, which this isn't doing. The diverter valve allows boost pressure to divert from the turbo back into the intake. Like a dump valve but less anti social as it doesn't dump it into free air and make a noise.

 

The squealing sounds like this:

[Video]

 

But also like this (but doesn't do it at idle):

[Video]

 

So on that and other basis I decided to change the diverter valve. The replacement looks like this:

 

Quick trip up to GSF with a promo code nabbed me one for 43 quid. Fitting required going through the wheel arch. It's the black thing in the middle of this picture at the back.

 

Which changing it didn't fix it. So now need to change the PCV valve and hope it fixes it. Luckily the PCV valve is cheap (£25) and on top of the lump, so easy to change.

 

Someone did mention on a forum that he had a squealing noise and it was the exhaust gasket. That would require turbo removal and is quite a long job.

 

If a replacement PCV valve doesn't fix it, it's going on eBay as spares or repair. I'll just then have to take whatever hit it gives my wallet.

 

You win some, you loose some. This case I lost. Even though I bought it from a trusted friend (who had no idea that this fault would turn up), I could have easily bought this otherwise. Full service history with loads of receipts, body and interior in excellent condition and drives well.

 

It'll be my last* German car I'm buying.

[Guest Hooli]

Bugger, but it'll give you more time to sort the B GT which is a much nicer car.

[Guest Hooli]

Just having breakfast* before going to rewire a rat...

 

 

 

 

 

 

*a few biscuits

[The Moog]

That TT seems to be fighting you every step. Fingers crossed for the easy fix.

[D Spares & Tyres]

Car being used near me, shows taxed MOT'd but no insurance, best way to report since it's parked up 90% of the time? 

 

Annoys me as 1 year ago I had my car on a prov license, with insurance! and i could not even TOUCH the fucker without curtains twitching, neighbours looking as I came home in it with a good friend in the front passenger seat, yet other people get a free fucking pass.

 

Yeah, curtain twitching bastards. Haven't they got anything better to do than snooping online seeing if other people's cars are legal?

[Kiltox]

SiC get that car fucked off!!

 

Park it round the corner from the WBAC place overnight and take it there stone cold just before your appointment time

[Saabnut]

If it is taxed and not insured, you have no need to report it. The fine will automatically make its way to them courtesy of the computer. I forgot to add one of my fleet to the MID and received a fine under continuous insurance rules. I got away with it on a technicality, but it took several letters and telephone conversations, so they do take it seriously

[xtriple]

Apparently the head gasket is do-able at home, just a lot of shit to get off and the exhaust manifolds are a pain to get at, but acoording to an 'old queen' (his words not mine) easy enough, just takes a while.

 

But not for a cripple. I can't bend and certainly not for any length of time and getting underneath to do the manifolds is a no-no.

 

I offered it to 'Flying Spares' which is the big breaker/reseller up North. They offered £8k for it as is  which gives them the option to repair (and make a BIG profit) or break and make an even BIGGER profit! I am really tempted to take it and just write it off as a bad loss and move on. I haven't got £5K at the moment (close but not close enough) and not sure I want to be skint yet again.

 

I am taking the weekend to think about it so if anyone wants it.... it's yours for the asking.

[panhard65]

Apparently the head gasket is do-able at home, just a lot of shit to get off and the exhaust manifolds are a pain to get at, but acoording to an 'old queen' (his words not mine) easy enough, just takes a while.

 

But not for a cripple. I can't bend and certainly not for any length of time and getting underneath to do the manifolds is a no-no.

 

I offered it to 'Flying Spares' which is the big breaker/reseller up North. They offered £8k for it as is  which gives them the option to repair (and make a BIG profit) or break and make an even BIGGER profit! I am really tempted to take it and just write it off as a bad loss and move on. I haven't got £5K at the moment (close but not close enough) and not sure I want to be skint yet again.

 

I am taking the weekend to think about it so if anyone wants it.... it's yours for the asking.

Go on then I am hoping to have a few grand spare in a couple of weeks if you are serious about selling as it is. Where the hell I would put it until I could find the time to sort it I don't know but with all the effort you have put into it to get it as good as it is it would be a shame to see it go to a breaker.

[cort16]

SIC you need to buy cars that aren't broken for your own well being

 

 

Speaking of VAG shite the guy who has the garage next to my locked had a 2 year old Skoda Superb Taxi in limp mode. He plug it into the computer and it came up with EGR valve.

No problem, he calls up Skoda and they quote him some un godly price. He then asked them the workshop hours to fit it. 7 hrs was their reply. It's a bastard.

 

So he gets a patent one for £200 quid or so then has to drop the front subframe, pull all the drive shafts out etc etc. Eventually gets to it and it's one of these huge water cooled ones.

He puts it all back together. Next day he see's it coming back down the lane back in limp home mode, the new EGR valve has pooped itself alreadty

He calls a different patent supplier and they say, we've had loads of these fail only buy the OEM one given the labour involved it's not worth it. Another 7 hours.

I think the bill was about 7-800 quid for a flipping EGR valve change and that';s not charging to change the failed unit. 

[richardmorris]

I’ve just replaced the rocker cover gaskets on the 2cv. Bought super duper ones from ecas last year but only just felt it temperate enough outside to muck about.

 

Had to chisel the old ones off they were that hard. Quite possibly original!

 

Checked for leaks afterwards and caught my hand on the (surprisingly hot) manifold. Big blister already! Think it’s leak free though.

 

Mot at the end of the month then another trip to north wales for 2cvgb registers day on the Wirral.

[artdjones]

SIC you need to buy cars that aren't broken for your own well being

 

 

Speaking of VAG shite the guy who has the garage next to my locked had a 2 year old Skoda Superb Taxi in limp mode. He plug it into the computer and it came up with EGR valve.

No problem, he calls up Skoda and they quote him some un godly price. He then asked them the workshop hours to fit it. 7 hrs was their reply. It's a bastard.

 

So he gets a patent one for £200 quid or so then has to drop the front subframe, pull all the drive shafts out etc etc. Eventually gets to it and it's one of these huge water cooled ones.

He puts it all back together. Next day he see's it coming back down the lane back in limp home mode, the new EGR valve has pooped itself alreadty

He calls a different patent supplier and they say, we've had loads of these fail only buy the OEM one given the labour involved it's not worth it. Another 7 hours.

I think the bill was about 7-800 quid for a flipping EGR valve change and that';s not charging to change the failed unit.

Why is German engineering so respected?Just remind me.That's a question that really belongs in the stupid question section.

[flat4alfa]

if it was mine I'd give it a go, it's only a pushrod V8 after all.

That's what I've been thinking all along

[Lacquer Peel]

Why is German engineering so respected?Just remind me.That's a question that really belongs in the stupid question section.

PR propaganda.

[holbeck]

Indulge me talking about moderns.

 

The local main dealer has just cold called me.. "We see your (actually wife's, but I pay the bills) car is due a service, cam belt / water pump / brake fluid change..."

 

Me: 'Is there a menu price for that?'

 

 

..........(sound of keyboard tapping)........"Yes, £790........ plus  VAT"

 

I love modern cars.

[Sigmund Fraud]

It'll be my last* German car I'm buying.

 

VAG shite only makes sense if you stick to base models and find one that hasn't been too neglected for sub-£500.

 

Parts are plentiful and cheap, and there's lots of of know-how out there. This also means that common problems are well-documented, so you know in advance what models and/or specifications to avoid.

 

Why is German engineering so respected?

 

I can assure you it isn't respected by anyone who has actually taken a modern VAG/BMW apart... They're engineered and built to a price, no better and no worse than most other manufacturers.

[cort16]

I read on a car dealer forum a few of their customers saying they're only looking at French cars now after having their fingers burnt with German ones. It must be bad.

[Sigmund Fraud]

I read on a car dealer forum a few of their customers saying they're only looking at French cars now after having their fingers burnt with German ones. It must be bad.

 

The same kind of logic* that made disappointed late-00s Renault owners move to reliable* Japanese* Nissans...