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[fordperv]

Cooler? They sound like shite. Compared to other mass-produced humdrum mid-capacity engines of the time they were lacking in power, sound awful and were a bit thirsty.

 

No surprise everyone goes for a later engine.

Really

Have you ever known the love of a pinto with side draughts and a fruity exhaust?

[Talbot]

Modified aside, Compare a 1986 1.6 Pinto Sierra with a 1.6 OHC Cavalier. The Cavalier engine is more powerful and more economic. And although both are quite boring sounding, the Cav engine sounds less pants. IMO.

[Datsuncog]

^^^ Genuinely interesting discussion here on Pintos.

 

See, a chum has been offered a free 2.0 unit through a club contact, which he plans to rebuild and swap for the sweet but gutless 1.3 crossflow unit currently dwelling under the bonnet of his MkIII Cortina (once he's figured out how to get said engine brought over to N. Ireland for less than the price of Elon Musk's Falcon Heavy launch, that is).

 

Now, I was never all that enamoured with the 2.0 in my own Cortina which always ran like lumpy sick - but I assumed that if I could ever have been arsed to take a proper look at it and get the timing properly set, then it might have sounded a bit happier (cracked manifold, then shitty non-fitting pattern exhaust not helping matters).

 

 

This is the Cortina. I'm supposed to be going over on Saturday morning to start stripping the brakes to fit Granada two-pot calipers and Capri discs, in advance of the engine transplant.

 

Should I be dissuading him?

[BorniteIdentity]

I’m bitterly disappointed in all this negativity surrounding the pintosaurus. That humble little thing is responsible for more British holidays with Little Chef breakfasts and more photocopier sales than any other individual factor at play during the 70s and 80s.

 

I think you need to

 

A. Remind yourselves where you are online

2. Remind yourselves of where you came from

D. Apologise to the Sierra Base in person

 

Jesus Christ guys.

[They_all_do_that_sir]

^^^ Genuinely interesting discussion here on Pintos.

 

See, a chum has been offered a free 2.0 unit through a club contact, which he plans to rebuild and swap for the sweet but gutless 1.3 unit currently dwelling under the bonnet of his MkIII Cortina (once he's figured out how to get said engine brought over to N. Ireland for less than the price of Elon Musk's Falcon Heavy launch, that is).

 

Now, I was never all that enamoured with the 2.0 in my own Cortina which always ran like lumpy sick - but I assumed that if I could ever have been arsed to take a proper look at it and get the timing properly set, then it might have sounded a bit happier (cracked manifold, then shitty non-fitting pattern exhaust not helping matters).

 

1972 Ford Cortina 1300 2-dr.jpg

 

This is the Cortina. I'm supposed to be going over on Saturday morning to start stripping the brakes to fit Granada two-pot calipers and Capri discs, in advance of the engine transplant.

 

Should I be dissuading him?

Ahem V8 ahem ahem

 

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[Datsuncog]

Ahem V8 ahem ahem

 

Funny you should mention that, because this lives at the other end of his street and is hardly ever driven...

 

 

... how long d'you reckon before Mr. Rover might notice?

[Guest]

Modified aside, Compare a 1986 1.6 Pinto Sierra with a 1.6 OHC Cavalier. The Cavalier engine is more powerful and more economic. And although both are quite boring sounding, the Cav engine sounds less pants. IMO.

A Pinto with a Peco is the sound of my youth. The older generation can keep their Morris Minor farts.

[Guest Hooli]

Pintos sound much better than OHC vauxhalls, those who think different need to wash their ears out with strong acid.

[Shep Shepherd]

More strange goings-on in Volvoland today.

 

Fitted a new regulator to The Volvo's alternator, as I discovered during my post-breakdown tinkering at the weekend that the existing one's brushes were alarmingly worn, even though it still worked. It's now in the boot as part of my 'get me home' spares stash.

 

Also, I found a good used instrument cluster suitable for the car on American eBay for a very reasonable all-in price. Check out the Americanisms, such as the 'UNLEADED FUEL ONLY' legend, the service indicator reset button and the red mark at the 55 mph point on the speedometer:

 

 

 

Here's hoping it works a lot better than the electrical monstrosity that the car has been labouring with for the last decade, which currently has no illumination and various warning lights not working after removing and refitting it at the weekend, although thankfully the battery warning light still works properly.

 

Shep asks: does anyone know of a company which refurbishes 1980s and 1990s car instrument panels?

[Guest Hooli]

 

Shep asks: does anyone know of a company which refurbishes 1980s and 1990s car instrument panels?

 

I saw someone mentioned by twosmoke/wuvwum? about transit clusters recently.

[dollywobbler]

A Pinto with a Peco is the sound of my youth. The older generation can keep their Morris Minor farts.

 

It was Minis with gorgeous exhausts in my youth. Oddly, I've not heard the exact 'gorgeous' exhaust note on a Mini for what feels like decades. Wonder if stainless systems are to blame? They can often be too harsh.

[alcyonecorporation]

I’m bitterly disappointed in all this negativity surrounding the pintosaurus. That humble little thing is responsible for more British holidays with Little Chef breakfasts and more photocopier sales than any other individual factor at play during the 70s and 80s.

 

I think you need to

 

A. Remind yourselves where you are online

2. Remind yourselves of where you came from

D. Apologise to the Sierra Base in person

 

Jesus Christ guys.

Not really, it's a classic case of people getting misty eyed and letting it cloud their judgement of what stuff is/isn't/was/wasn't.

 

Yes, they were good in Transits, formed the basis of the Cosworth YBA/YBT, and can take a lot of abuse; witness the countless historic rally Escorts still doing the do, even now.

 

Thing is, nowadays, they're expensive, cost a fortune to tune, and weigh more than the Graf Spee. Their main draw, let's be honest, was how cheap they were. They're not cheap any more.

Better, lighter, cheaper engines can do what the Pinto did and better - witness the Zetec.

 

BITD far too many classics had Pintos bodged into them by 'like what I know and know what I like' types who should have just bought a Ford in the first place.

The best/worst case of Pinto mutilation I've ever seen was a bloke who years ago stuffed one into an Mazda Cosmo L10 because he didn't like "fucking chinky engines", innit'.

 

I've never subscribed to the 'Ford is God' philosophy.

People should just accept the Pinto's had its time and accept its limitations. They were reliable and straightforward. Doesn't make them special or iconic. Sorry.

 

I can take a Pinto on its merits but I won't overstate what they are.

[Tadhg Tiogar]

More strange goings-on in Volvoland occurred today.

 

Fitted a new regulator to The Volvo's alternator, as I discovered during my post-breakdown tinkering at the weekend that the existing one's brushes were alarmingly worn, even though it still worked. It's now in the boot as part of my 'get me home' spares stash.

 

Also, I found a good used instrument cluster suitable for The Volvo on American eBay for a very reasonable all-in price:

 

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Didn't Lakes Dismantlers have anything suitable?

[Guest Hooli]

Not really, it's a classic case of people getting misty eyed and letting it cloud their judgement of what stuff is/isn't/was/wasn't.

 

Yes, they were good in Transits, formed the basis of the Cosworth YBA/YBT, and can take a lot of abuse; witness the countless historic rally Escorts still doing the do, even now.

 

Thing is, nowadays, they're expensive, cost a fortune to tune, and weigh more than the Graf Spee. Their main draw, let's be honest, was how cheap they were. They're not cheap any more.

Better, lighter, cheaper engines can do what the Pinto did and better - witness the Zetec.

 

BITD far too many classics had Pintos bodged into them by 'like what I know and know what I like' types who should have just bought a Ford in the first place.

The best/worst case of Pinto mutilation I've ever seen was a bloke who years ago stuffed one into an Mazda Cosmo L10 because he didn't like "fucking chinky engines", innit'.

 

I've never subscribed to the 'Ford is God' philosophy.

People should just accept the Pinto's had its time and accept its limitations. They were reliable and straightforward. Doesn't make them special or iconic. Sorry.

 

I can take a Pinto on its merits but I won't overstate what they are.

 

Can't argue that & with a bit of decoration Zetecs can look damn good in older Fords as they do as pretty good impersonation (in looks & noise) of a BDA twin cam with some tweaks.

[BorniteIdentity]

Not really, it's a classic case of people getting misty eyed and letting it cloud their judgement of what stuff is/isn't/was/wasn't.

 

Yes, they were good in Transits, formed the basis of the Cosworth YBA/YBT, and can take a lot of abuse; witness the countless historic rally Escorts still doing the do, even now.

 

Thing is, nowadays, they're expensive, cost a fortune to tune, and weigh more than the Graf Spee. Their main draw, let's be honest, was how cheap they were. They're not cheap any more.

Better, lighter, cheaper engines can do what the Pinto did and better - witness the Zetec.

 

BITD far too many classics had Pintos bodged into them by 'like what I know and know what I like' types who should have just bought a Ford in the first place.

The best/worst case of Pinto mutilation I've ever seen was a bloke who years ago stuffed one into an Mazda Cosmo L10 because he didn't like "fucking chinky engines", innit'.

 

I've never subscribed to the 'Ford is God' philosophy.

People should just accept the Pinto's had its time and accept its limitations. They were reliable and straightforward. Doesn't make them special or iconic. Sorry.

 

I can take a Pinto on its merits but I won't overstate what they are.

Well that’s me told.

 

I’m now weighing up whether to transplant a Nissan 350z engine into the bASe (which I’ve been offered very cheaply indeed) or just weigh the whole thing in spend my £150 on something ‘hip’ and ‘now’ like a new hoodie.

 

 

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[alcyonecorporation]

Well that’s me told.

 

I’m now weighing up whether to transplant a Nissan 350z engine into the bASe (which I’ve been offered very cheaply indeed) or just weigh the whole thing in spend my £150 on something ‘hip’ and ‘now’ like a new hoodie.

 

 

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Chill your tits and enjoy your Pinto. I didn't say they were shit.

 

I'll be enjoying my cast iron, overhead valve B18A (for what it is) at the weekend.

 

I've no problem with simple engines (otherwise, half my fleet'd have engine swaps) - but the Pinto doesn't deserve deification.

 

Amazon: OHV, 8v, cast iron block. My dad's mate's dad didn't have one. Shit?

Piazza: OHC, 8v turbo. No one knows what it is. Shit?

305: OHC, 8v, alloy block. My dad's mate's dad had one, but no-one cares because it isn't a Ford. Cool by proxy?

C15: OHC, 8v, iron block. Not a VW Caddy, so worthless. My dad's mate's dad crashed one. Even I'll admit it's shit.

 

Impreza: DOHC 16v flat four nonsense. Should be burned.

SVX: DOHC 24v flat six nonsense. Should be burned.

 

It might just be this country. Doesn't mean I'm right.

[Shep Shepherd]

Didn't Lakes Dismantlers have anything suitable?

 

I didn't bother checking, as last time I visited their premises they only had partially dismantled clusters in stock, which would have been okay for harvesting individual parts from, but nothing more.

[Asimo]

Whenever I think of Pinto engines, I just hear that tap tap tap of morbidly failed cam / follower. Sounds of the 70s / 80s!

 

DW is right about (restored) minis not sounding right. Likewise VW Beetles. Anyone remember that fluttery high-pitched whistle they made on the original exhaust with it's twin tailpipes?

[Shep Shepherd]

I like Pintos, as they were definitive engine of one of my all-time favourite cars, the Ford Cortina '80'

[Jim Bell]

Doesnt Pinto mean SMALL COCK in french or summat?

[Jim Bell]

Im not buying one.

[panhard65]

Not really, it's a classic case of people getting misty eyed and letting it cloud their judgement of what stuff is/isn't/was/wasn't.

 

Yes, they were good in Transits, formed the basis of the Cosworth YBA/YBT, and can take a lot of abuse; witness the countless historic rally Escorts still doing the do, even now.

 

Thing is, nowadays, they're expensive, cost a fortune to tune, and weigh more than the Graf Spee. Their main draw, let's be honest, was how cheap they were. They're not cheap any more.

Better, lighter, cheaper engines can do what the Pinto did and better - witness the Zetec.

 

BITD far too many classics had Pintos bodged into them by 'like what I know and know what I like' types who should have just bought a Ford in the first place.

The best/worst case of Pinto mutilation I've ever seen was a bloke who years ago stuffed one into an Mazda Cosmo L10 because he didn't like "fucking chinky engines", innit'.

 

I've never subscribed to the 'Ford is God' philosophy.

People should just accept the Pinto's had its time and accept its limitations. They were reliable and straightforward. Doesn't make them special or iconic. Sorry.

 

I can take a Pinto on its merits but I won't overstate what they are.

I am with you on this one it seems most people in the UK classic car scene seem to think that British engines were the best when to be honest they were pretty shit compared to what the European and Far eastern Manufactures were producing. The Ford and Austin engines only had one good thing going for them and that was they were simple and easy to rebuild (which they needed a lot more than that foriegn muck). The Volvo B18 is as tough as old boots my dad had a 144 which made over 200k miles with just normal servicing and a clutch. Give me an Italian engine anyday over the UK shit.

[egg]

Pintos? more of a crossflow man myself

[Shep Shepherd]

Doesnt Pinto mean SMALL COCK in french or summat?

 

Mexican Spanish

[Shep Shepherd]

Pintos? more of a crossflow man myself

 

I prefer the Volvo 'red block' 

[cort16]

I’m just saying I like to see a pinto in a car that was meant to have one and I appreciate it when someone has gone to the effort of spending some time creating a hot one rather than another modern engine conversion .

I know someone who ran them as taxis back in the day and could change a cam shaft in 20 minutes by drilling a hole in the bulk head and taking it out through the inside . Beat that f1!

[cort16]

I bet the one in mine will blow up in 2 days and I’ll be on here slagging them off.

[Jim Bell]

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[cort16]

Ford Twin Cam

 

[Bucketeer]

I tell everyone that in my 1.1 AX you feel like you're doing 72mph when you're actually doing 27mph but secretly I believe it's an unbeatable cornering great that no car could keep up with along windy roads.

On my way back from work tonight, along my favourite 8 mile stretch of quiet, bendy woodland road I was having some spirited driving fun. Despite all the fun I could muster and however hard I funned I couldn't shake off the headlights of a car behind me, matching me all the way. Respect, I thought. They must have some pretty heavy artillery to be keeping up with my race car.

At the end of the woodland special stage, we both pulled up at some traffic lights and past the headlight glare I could finally make out the Suzuki Jimny in my rear view mirror.

Disappointed.

Suzuki made a turbo MegaJimny didn't they? Right?