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Not really, it's a classic case of people getting misty eyed and letting it cloud their judgement of what stuff is/isn't/was/wasn't.

 

Yes, they were good in Transits, formed the basis of the Cosworth YBA/YBT, and can take a lot of abuse; witness the countless historic rally Escorts still doing the do, even now.

 

Thing is, nowadays, they're expensive, cost a fortune to tune, and weigh more than the Graf Spee. Their main draw, let's be honest, was how cheap they were. They're not cheap any more.

Better, lighter, cheaper engines can do what the Pinto did and better - witness the Zetec.

 

BITD far too many classics had Pintos bodged into them by 'like what I know and know what I like' types who should have just bought a Ford in the first place.

The best/worst case of Pinto mutilation I've ever seen was a bloke who years ago stuffed one into an Mazda Cosmo L10 because he didn't like "fucking chinky engines", innit'.

 

I've never subscribed to the 'Ford is God' philosophy.

People should just accept the Pinto's had its time and accept its limitations. They were reliable and straightforward. Doesn't make them special or iconic. Sorry.

 

I can take a Pinto on its merits but I won't overstate what they are.

I am with you on this one it seems most people in the UK classic car scene seem to think that British engines were the best when to be honest they were pretty shit compared to what the European and Far eastern Manufactures were producing. The Ford and Austin engines only had one good thing going for them and that was they were simple and easy to rebuild (which they needed a lot more than that foriegn muck). The Volvo B18 is as tough as old boots my dad had a 144 which made over 200k miles with just normal servicing and a clutch. Give me an Italian engine anyday over the UK shit.

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I’m just saying I like to see a pinto in a car that was meant to have one and I appreciate it when someone has gone to the effort of spending some time creating a hot one rather than another modern engine conversion .

I know someone who ran them as taxis back in the day and could change a cam shaft in 20 minutes by drilling a hole in the bulk head and taking it out through the inside . Beat that f1!

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I tell everyone that in my 1.1 AX you feel like you're doing 72mph when you're actually doing 27mph but secretly I believe it's an unbeatable cornering great that no car could keep up with along windy roads.

On my way back from work tonight, along my favourite 8 mile stretch of quiet, bendy woodland road I was having some spirited driving fun. Despite all the fun I could muster and however hard I funned I couldn't shake off the headlights of a car behind me, matching me all the way. Respect, I thought. They must have some pretty heavy artillery to be keeping up with my race car.

At the end of the woodland special stage, we both pulled up at some traffic lights and past the headlight glare I could finally make out the Suzuki Jimny in my rear view mirror.

Disappointed.

Suzuki made a turbo MegaJimny didn't they? Right?

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I tell everyone that in my 1.1 AX you feel like you're doing 72mph when you're actually doing 27mph but secretly I believe it's an unbeatable cornering great that no car could keep up with along windy roads.

On my way back from work tonight, along my favourite 8 mile stretch of quiet, bendy woodland road I was having some spirited driving fun. Despite all the fun I could muster and however hard I funned I couldn't shake off the headlights of a car behind me, matching me all the way. Respect, I thought. They must have some pretty heavy artillery to be keeping up with my race car.

At the end of the woodland special stage, we both pulled up at some traffic lights and past the headlight glare I could finally make out the Suzuki Jimny in my rear view mirror.

Disappointed.

Suzuki made a turbo MegaJimny didn't they? Right?

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I tell everyone that in my 1.1 AX you feel like you're doing 72mph when you're actually doing 27mph but secretly I believe it's an unbeatable cornering great that no car could keep up with along windy roads.

On my way back from work tonight, along my favourite 8 mile stretch of quiet, bendy woodland road I was having some spirited driving fun. Despite all the fun I could muster and however hard I funned I couldn't shake off the headlights of a car behind me, matching me all the way. Respect, I thought. They must have some pretty heavy artillery to be keeping up with my race car.

At the end of the woodland special stage, we both pulled up at some traffic lights and past the headlight glare I could finally make out the Suzuki Jimny in my rear view mirror.

Disappointed.

Suzuki made a turbo MegaJimny didn't they? Right?

 

Classic Mini ownership in a nutshell.

You are "on one", pushing hard, rev matching and double declutching, heel-toeing like the reincarnation of John Cooper himself, clipping the apex just right....literally nothing can beat you....then you check the rearview and easily keeping up with you is some bored looking woman doing the school run in a Scenic with a telephone in her hand....

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Classic Mini ownership in a nutshell.

You are "on one", pushing hard, rev matching and double declutching, heel-toeing like the reincarnation of John Cooper himself, clipping the apex just right....literally nothing can beat you....then you check the rearview and easily keeping up with you is some bored looking woman doing the school run in a Scenic with a telephone in her hand....

You ain’t doing it right then, I have lost all manner of exotics in my old 1275s and even a few in the 998s. The most amusing being a dickhead in a boxsterS who was right up my chuff on a road I knew and I guess he didn’t. The Yoko list 1B tyres helped but even still I wasn’t really pushing it that hard on a 90degree bend when he went sideways in cloud of tyre smoke as he panic braked and lost it. The key is momentum, they don’t accelerate that well unless you really fuck about with them but set up right the mechanical grip is obscene for such a basic car.

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I tell everyone that in my 1.1 AX you feel like you're doing 72mph when you're actually doing 27mph but secretly I believe it's an unbeatable cornering great that no car could keep up with along windy roads.

On my way back from work tonight, along my favourite 8 mile stretch of quiet, bendy woodland road I was having some spirited driving fun. Despite all the fun I could muster and however hard I funned I couldn't shake off the headlights of a car behind me, matching me all the way. Respect, I thought. They must have some pretty heavy artillery to be keeping up with my race car.

At the end of the woodland special stage, we both pulled up at some traffic lights and past the headlight glare I could finally make out the Suzuki Jimny in my rear view mirror.

Disappointed.

Suzuki made a turbo MegaJimny didn't they? Right?

 

I fitted 185/55/13's to my 1.4D AX and Spotlights, to Aid my commute from Long Preston on the A65 to Burnley Every day.

The problem with the extra wide tyres was that it fucked the acceleration up, and so I was forced* to take every downhill bend flat out in the rain. 

Over 2 years I perfected that road, and once summer came, looked forward to attempting to overtake (motor)cyclists, who just didn't know the road and didn't have the bottle (occasionally you'd come around a bend and find one lying in a field, usually just stunned, at their own stupidity)

Anyway 45 Mpg was my average fuel consumption when alone. I bought that car believing I'd see at least 75 mpg

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You ain’t doing it right then, I have lost all manner of exotics in my old 1275s and even a few in the 998s. The most amusing being a dickhead in a boxsterS who was right up my chuff on a road I knew and I guess he didn’t. The Yoko list 1B tyres helped but even still I wasn’t really pushing it that hard on a 90degree bend when he went sideways in cloud of tyre smoke as he panic braked and lost it. The key is momentum, they don’t accelerate that well unless you really fuck about with them but set up right the mechanical grip is obscene for such a basic car.

 

 

I fitted 185/55/13's to my 1.4D AX and Spotlights, to Aid my commute from Long Preston on the A65 to Burnley Every day.

The problem with the extra wide tyres was that it fucked the acceleration up, and so I was forced* to take every downhill bend flat out in the rain. 

Over 2 years I perfected that road, and once summer came, looked forward to attempting to overtake (motor)cyclists, who just didn't know the road and didn't have the bottle (occasionally you'd come around a bend and find one lying in a field, usually just stunned, at their own stupidity)

Anyway 45 Mpg was my average fuel consumption when alone. I bought that car believing I'd see at least 75 mpg

 

 

The same road in the wife's Metro 1275 sport was MUCH more fun. It screamed. That engine in a mini, now that would have been even better.

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I tell everyone that in my 1.1 AX you feel like you're doing 72mph when you're actually doing 27mph but secretly I believe it's an unbeatable cornering great that no car could keep up with along windy roads.

 

This... this is why every five years or so I get a sudden urge to procure a Mk2 Fezzer or Polo breadvan and cane it round the back roads like a good 'un, yet probably never really crack 50mph. I've done track days in moderns, but I've found that dragging the doorhandles on a curve in a thirty year old biscuit tin offers me rather more smiles per mile.

 

I'm beginning to think I need an AX in my life...

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I had a Polo breadvan with 175/summinkR13 tyres off a golf. It stuck like shit to a blanket & could do any corner on three wheels no matter how wet the roads were. Much fun was had.

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Jesus Christ, the amount of utter crap on the motors section on gumtree is amazing. If I had a quid for every advert title that had but in it...or TLC needed, I'd be a touch more wealthy.

 

It's probably a futile search I've got going on, but I've bought some right bargains off of there before.

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In the end it's immaterial to me how fast I am actually going, I'm always having a riot. I drive that car every day, and that's not enough.

 

On a side note, there was a 1.5D AX with the four stud conversion and upgraded suspension and brakes and stuff on eBay recently which I missed out on for £211 or summat because cider in Somerset. That would have been a proper momentum weapon. It wasn't anyone on here that bought it was it?

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I was wanting to fit a wank chinese rev counter and usb charging socket to my race car engined* cortina.

I found the wiring for the stereo I thought I could use as I'm not going to have a stereo but it's on a constant live to the battery so it on all the time. This should be good for causing a fire given the cables are just flapping about inside the dash. It also means I need to try to wire the live to the ignition switch so it's only on when it's meant to be.

Cue lots of swearing and connectors falling off.

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