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[martc]

Exploration/exploitation, eastern stylee...

Belaz 75501 super heavy dumper produced at the Byelorussian Automotive Factory in 1991.

An MZKT somewhere in the Middle East judging by the warning sign on the rails. I wonder what it's for? Probably oil exploration or somesuch.

And where it's a bit cooler - Ural Polar Expedition vehicles.

[martc]

Fire, fire, fire...

1) ZIL-131, 2) ZIL-157 and 3) MAZ-543.

[worldofceri]

On 8/25/2021 at 7:55 PM, sutty2006 said:

It’s deffo an American trailer. Doesn’t comply with many uk regs. No wheel arches or spray suppression.

No side underrun bars either now I look again.

[sutty2006]

1 hour ago, worldofceri said:

No side underrun bars either now I look again.

Yes I saw that too after I’d originally posted, then noticed someone else had mentioned it previously. Crazy to think they get away with using them over here, but then again, they do get away with murder! 

[willswitchengage]

Is the US and A there are some strange attempts at increasing trailer aerodynamics, with side and trailer-end spoilers being fairly common.

[sutty2006]

Don Bur, a trailer manufacturer round my neck of the woods designed a tear drop style trailer, for maximum M PEE GEEs

[808 Estate]

VITYAZ DT30

 

[sutty2006]

9 hours ago, 808 Estate said:

VITYAZ DT30

 

Got to hand it to the Russians. They make some crazy impressive bits of kit! 

[Leyland Worldmaster]

From the June 1979 'Truck' magazine 'Driver to Truck' section.

This section was devoted to Truckers responding to criticism from anti-road haulage groups.

This is an interesting contribution from Richard Price and Graham Moyse:

"Richard Price and Graham Moyse
both drive to the Continent with bulk plastic, Roger in a Volvo F10 and Graham in a Volvo 88. Their firm, Bryn Mallindine, is based in Malmesbury, a village near Swindon, where Graham also lives.

'It's best to keep a low profile to assist in relations with neighbours,' he said, admitting that there are problems for a heavy haulage firm in a small community.

'But I think most of the problems stem from this country's idea of status which the Continent doesn't have. Here a truck driver is the lowest of the low.'

Richard Price lives in the nearby village of Purton which is a short cut regularly used by trucks from Gloucester to the M4.

'I'd use the route myself if I ever had to go that way,' he said. 'I don't take too much notice of the way people complain about heavy loads. Somebody once complained about my truck parked in the village and my boss was told not to let me do it again. I was annoyed when I found out that the man who complained had been out of work for years'."

I feel Graham Price nailed it when he mentioned 'status'.

I wholeheartedly agree and that part isn't much different these days. If anything it seems worse- I can only go on some of the abuse I've experienced as a Bus Driver of course.

[busmansholiday]

Some more from the YORK Trailers collection.

Seddon goodness,

 

i think this may be an IVECO (I'm in the dark....)

Daf 2200,

Ford D type,

Ford D type tractor unit.

Lets finish with this beauty, Big J 4T.

 

[Vantman]

Good stuff,keep 'em coming!

[bigstraight6]

On 8/29/2021 at 10:59 PM, Leyland Worldmaster said:

From the June 1979 'Truck' magazine 'Driver to Truck' section.

This section was devoted to Truckers responding to criticism from anti-road haulage groups.

This is an interesting contribution from Richard Price and Graham Moyse:

"Richard Price and Graham Moyse
both drive to the Continent with bulk plastic, Roger in a Volvo F10 and Graham in a Volvo 88. Their firm, Bryn Mallindine, is based in Malmesbury, a village near Swindon, where Graham also lives.

'It's best to keep a low profile to assist in relations with neighbours,' he said, admitting that there are problems for a heavy haulage firm in a small community.

'But I think most of the problems stem from this country's idea of status which the Continent doesn't have. Here a truck driver is the lowest of the low.'

Richard Price lives in the nearby village of Purton which is a short cut regularly used by trucks from Gloucester to the M4.

'I'd use the route myself if I ever had to go that way,' he said. 'I don't take too much notice of the way people complain about heavy loads. Somebody once complained about my truck parked in the village and my boss was told not to let me do it again. I was annoyed when I found out that the man who complained had been out of work for years'."

I feel Graham Price nailed it when he mentioned 'status'.

I wholeheartedly agree and that part isn't much different these days. If anything it seems worse- I can only go on some of the abuse I've experienced as a Bus Driver of course.

Nothing much has changed, us lorry drivers are still treated as low life and today it’s usually by self entitled millennial pricks driving Audi’s who see us as a real inconvenience on the road and seem to have no notion that just about everything in their daily life has been on the back of a lorry. 

[High Jetter]

I hear you, but hasn't it been the same ever since big rigids / artics were built?

[AnthonyG]

Re the mushroom lorry I think this design started out badged as OM, then Fiat, then finally Iveco in about 1980.

They were quite popular with small fleets as they were a) cheap and b) easy for a driver not used to ‘proper lorries’ to get the hang of quickly.

This cab design was also used on a (very large for its time) panel van.

Edit: by the magic of wiki I bring you the Iveco Zeta series: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iveco_Zeta

[martc]

12 hours ago, AnthonyG said:

Re the mushroom lorry I think this design started out badged as OM, then Fiat, then finally Iveco in about 1980.

And to complete the circle, they were also made by Zastava, the Yugoslavian purveyor of FIAT products to the masses...

[jon.k]

As I've got less interested in modern cars I've started to take more notice of the lorries on motorway journeys and around and about the place. Could a truck- botherer give a layman's explanation of the different truck brands?  I've recently spotted some lovely lorries with custom paint jobs and bling trinkets on, and I wondered how much extra operators would be having to invest to buy a Scania with a high power number on the bonnet or and all the bling, compared to a more bog standard truck. Is it a big labour of love/investment? How do the different brands compare to car brands? Is a Scania like an Audi or BMW and a DAF like a Vauxhall or something? 

 

 

[Dyslexic Viking]

Scania is considered a premium brand yes and is highly regarded. But a DAF or an Iveco does the same job just as well. Seems from my view that Iveco and Renault are the least liked trucks in Europe without me understanding why. Is also the case with tractors John Deere is considered premium while a brand like Zetor is not as highly regarded even though they make good tractors. The whole thing is basically just brand snobbery and the need to pick on something in my opinion.

[willswitchengage]

Don't Renault use Volvo engines as they belong to the same parent group? I would have thought a Renault truck would be a nice discount offering - like Skoda is to VW these days.

[Dyslexic Viking]

I think Renault uses both the driveline and chassis from Volvo are just the cabs that are different. But can be wrong.

They do not look too bad either

[sutty2006]

Volvo and DAF have some kind of partnership because the DAF LF is the same as the Volvo 7.5t. 

[bigstraight6]

1 hour ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

I think Renault uses both the driveline and chassis from Volvo are just the cabs that are different. But can be wrong.

They do not look too bad either

This is correct, I drove one of these Renault’s when nearly brand new back in 2015 and it was not bad but I preferred the slightly older MAN TGX that came after but my current Scania is the best I’ve driven.

[sutty2006]

2 minutes ago, bigstraight6 said:

This is correct, I drove one of these Renault’s when nearly brand new back in 2015 and it was not bad but I preferred the slightly older MAN TGX that came after but my current Scania is the best I’ve driven.

Which Scania do you have? 

[bezzabsa]

Scania 94D is what killed my back.....really uncomfortable, yet the taller cabs were fantastic!!

[bigstraight6]

26 minutes ago, sutty2006 said:

Which Scania do you have? 

2019 R450

[bigstraight6]

15 minutes ago, bezzabsa said:

Scania 94D is what killed my back.....really uncomfortable, yet the taller cabs were fantastic!!

Yes I agree, the older Scania cabs were not so good especially for taller drivers, I have to duck my head when driving one of the older P series as the top of the windscreen is really low.

[sutty2006]

8 hours ago, bigstraight6 said:

2019 R450

I’ve got some scania bits for sale but unsure if they fit the newer R series cab… 

[martc]

Modern lorries - what about this beauty? And what are the chances of it appearing in the UK? All the work has been done to convert it to RHD and you would have thought they would try to expand the market for them to pay back the investment. I give you the stunningly named GAZ Sadko Next which is now for sale in Australia -

Although the Aussies appeared to have, advisedly, dropped the Sadko bit and are calling it the Trackmaster. See here for more details -

https://mr4x4.com.au/gaz-trackmaster-a-russian-truck-comes-to-australia/

[martc]

Here's a mix of old 'n' new -

KRAZ-255 with a nice bread loaf behind.

URAL-4320 Fire Engines, looks like they may be for airport use.

Right, this is how they did it in the olden days -

The MAZ-537 with a V12 diesel engine which produces 525 HP and 2200 Nm Torque. Need something similar today - visit the authorised dealer for these -

A KAMAZ-7360 10x10 , you get an extra set of wheels with this one, or you could get even more wheels by visiting your nearest MZKT dealer -

[willswitchengage]

23 hours ago, sutty2006 said:

Volvo and DAF have some kind of partnership because the DAF LF is the same as the Volvo 7.5t. 

Not quite. The Volvo small thing and Renault Midlum share the same Renault-designed cab, which shares pedigree with the old Renault Premium cab. These cabs are all made in a factory in Caen, France, and those for LFs are shipped to Leyland for final assembly. The LF is otherwise generally of British component origin, using Cummins engines from Darlington and axles from American Axle Co in the old Albion factory in Glasgow. LHD LFs are also made for export. Only RHD CFs and XFs are made at Leyland for the British and presumably Irish markets, but pretty much all components are again imported so for these the factory is pretty much assembling CKD kits.

That has now got me searching for De Rooy transporters. They made some weird stuff over the years!

[puddlethumper]

1 hour ago, martc said:

Here's a mix of old 'n' new -

KRAZ-255 with a nice bread loaf behind.

URAL-4320 Fire Engines, looks like they may be for airport use.

Right, this is how they did it in the olden days -

The MAZ-537 with a V12 diesel engine which produces 525 HP and 2200 Nm Torque. Need something similar today - visit the authorised dealer for these -

A KAMAZ-7360 10x10 , you get an extra set of wheels with this one, or you could get even more wheels by visiting your nearest MZKT dealer -

I love Russian trucks. They have the look of 'don't mess with me coz if you do you you will regret it'.