quicksilver Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Travelling showmen have a fascinating collection of old rammel so I thought I'd share a few here. 80s/90s Fodens and ERFs are ten a penny but there's a load of even older stuff too - these things are often not what they seem as showmen have a habit of rebuilding their lorries.Ergomatic survivor by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrThis Ergo AEC is a legend, owned by the same chap since 1973True Gritter by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrDrastically chopped 1962 Atkinson ex gritterEvening Star in the afternoon by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrScammell rammelNot what it seems by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrOld ERF with slightly less old cabMeep Meep! by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrEarly Roadrunner. I guess one Leyland badge just isn't enoughBig John by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrNot many of these DAFs around nowOld Timer's time isn't up by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrERF A-series or is it an LV? I can't tell the difference40 winks by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrHow has this not rotted away long ago?...and Farr away by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrEarly Cargo, no power steering by the lookHistoric Forest by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrLovely Gardner straight-eight powered ERF, owned by the same family for 20 odd yearsA trio of magnificent Magnums by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrIf you like French tat, have a Magnum or three sutty2006, KennethRaw, Laseraligningfoofooflanges and 4 others 7
Cavcraft Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Class, got any more? Looks like the RoadRunner owner has 'modernised' his by spraying over that lower window on the (nearside) front! ERF is an oddity alright and has tubeless front rims, ditto the DAF wrecker with what looks like super single fronts. DAF looks quite familiar, at least the body type and reg number does, wonder if it's an ex-Crosville wrecker as the reg. number (CA) is local.
autofive Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 some from Barnard castle truck show a few years back(some a quite big, you may need to zoom out) Laseraligningfoofooflanges 1
dollywobbler Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Jolly good idea! Keeping the fairground spirit, I bet this has a caravan attached to the end of this trailer... Like this in fact! Illegal I'm guessing, but they still seem to do it. NOT GR8 4 REVERSIN
quicksilver Posted December 31, 2011 Author Posted December 31, 2011 I see your 2 trailers and raise you 3. All legal under showman's special classification, I can assure you. Triple trailer roadtrain by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr A large turning circle! by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr Leyland Worldmaster 1
Father Ted Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Children today ! Sheeesh - whats wrong with rolling down a hill in an old oil drum? Twiggy, SOUL, inconsistant and 1 other 4
Cavcraft Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 On my 'must own one day' list an old Sed Atk, Foden or ERF features highly. Shouldn't be too hard to remove the fifth wheel, downrate it to 7.5 tonnes and then apply for showman's licence? Laseraligningfoofooflanges 1
warren t claim Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 On my 'must own one day' list an old Sed Atk, Foden or ERF features highly. Shouldn't be too hard to remove the fifth wheel, downrate it to 7.5 tonnes and then apply for showman's licence? No need to remove 5th wheel.
quicksilver Posted December 31, 2011 Author Posted December 31, 2011 EFE have done a model of this ERF. The Atki looks proper shite but I bet it still runs well. Glad you like - I have a load more but don't want to overload you with them all at once.
danthecapriman Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 I love old trucks, Some relly nice ones here too.The AEC/Leyland ergo is one of my favs, I will own one one day!Theres a couple of yards not far from me with loads of old trucks in, rotting away. They seem to have everything from the 50s onwards and a few cars laying around too. Theres an AEC ergo flatbed, and an ex british rail Leyland FG mobile workshop in there visable from the road. Id get some pics but I dont think they are the sort of people that appreciate people hanging around or bothering them!
Split_Pin Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Some proper class wagons there. I love the DAF wrecker. Now a rare machine. The Gardner 8 pot Erf is a thing to behold too! The other ERF you were asking about is an lv. It has the later grilled, but you can tell its still an lv due to the plain panel above the bumper. The A series was only available in tractor form and had the set back front axle. It was developed to take advantage of the higher weight limits being introduced at the time.
Justin Case Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Some great photos, but Wot No Volvos, the Autoshite favourite Let me correct this This superb F10 is used for transporting a Fowler crane engine, (owned appropriately enough by Len Crane ) to steam fairsVolvo Heavy Transporter by geoffp5, on Flickr No discussion of showman's transport would be complete without the Holy Grail so have a photo of a one-owner Showtrac with my compliments:Scammell Showtrac - Pat Collins by geoffp5, on Flickr Away from the fairgrounds, one of my favourites is this 1994 Scania 93 cattle transporter that I still see from time to time carrying Herefords around Worcestershire. Scania 93 Livestock Transporter by geoffp5, on Flickr That lovely little ERF LK44G (YMB39) was used until comparatively recently (does anyone know when?) by Gardners for delivering spare parts to their dealers. I would see it from time to time trundling up or down the M6, so it is nice, but not surprising to know that it has been preserved. Laseraligningfoofooflanges 1
warren t claim Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 ^^^I still drive an old Scanny like that now and again! I want to take it home with me!
Shep Shepherd Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 That Volvo F10 is lovely. I have a real soft spot for the F10, F12 and F16; to me they are the HGV equivalent of the Volvo 240
quicksilver Posted December 31, 2011 Author Posted December 31, 2011 No discussion of showman's transport would be complete without the Holy Grail so have a photo of a one-owner Showtrac with my compliments:Scammell Showtrac - Pat Collins by geoffp5, on Flickr Those Showtracs are worth £££. 18 were built and 17 survive, the guy who scrapped the other one must be kicking himself. Hard. Laseraligningfoofooflanges 1
quicksilver Posted January 1, 2012 Author Posted January 1, 2012 another random collection of showman shite, circus chod and traveller tat, including some for the Ovlov and Scanny fans A tight fit by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrIts an AWD, not a Bedford Circus star by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrDon't be fooled by the reg, this isn't quite that old Black magic by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrThis firm have a 100% Volvo fleet but this is the only F-series left Sweet 16 by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrSame lorry, older livery. I preferred this as it matched the rest of the fleet Metal Mickey by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrMickey Mouse Foden Fleetmaster in fine fettle by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrOriginal looking Fleetmaster Wood you believe it? by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrRare Sed Atki 301 Sheppard without a flock by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrSmart Scanny 92 Mystery machine by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrWhat the hell is this? Some kind of Commer? Knight of old by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrAtki Knight Club of Four by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrNot many 'Club of Four' Ovlovs left All weather AWD by quicksilver coaches, on FlickrAn AWD that hasn't crumbled to dust! That's all for now but there are more to come. Semi-C, Laseraligningfoofooflanges, Wackeldackel and 1 other 4
scruff Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Great thread. Our mate moves us about with his twin steer ERF C series. Cummins lump with a Fuller gearbox. Taxed as private HGV and no speed limiter Good fun overtaking the supermarket wagons on the A1. Here I am getting loaded up after a breakdown!! AA aren't much cop. My friend Paul uses this Borderer to move his engines about, his late dad used to restore Atkis and his mum still does a lot with the owners club. This is a great old wagon, we had it and the engine at our wedding. Here's a few more steam rigs. ERFs are popular as they are mega simple, cheap to buy, not too terrible on fuel and with the plastic fantastic cab they don't mind standing out all winter. You do see quite a few old Atkinsons about though. Finally, ANY1 WANT A ERF? I stumbled on it by chance when on a job in Maidenhead. It's a B series with a Cummins 14 litre (Powah) and a 9 speed Fuller. Up for grabs at around £1500 without the crane... no test on it or owt as it's been used for recovery.
DSdriver Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 I was looking at the crank handle on this and two questions spring to mind:What sort of superman can swing an engine like that to start it? (I presume its a diesel so you can decompress it)and How much does it hurt when you forget its there and bang your shin on it.
Cavcraft Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Hey, Mr Scruff, any idea what that ERF would want for an MOT at all? Cheers.
scruff Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 I wouldn't like to say Cavette but I was warned off buying it for swapping to a tractor unit it as a lot of old recovery stuff can be pretty shitey, you might be into the realms of swapping out all the brake actuators and shiz like that. The fella did say it barked up alright and he used it in 'emergencies' and his other trucks were all pretty up together so it might be OK. £2000 was mentioned if you fancied keeping the crane on it but that was a few months back. It could make a nice truck for shows and monging around in. The recovery firm's number is 01494 512955 if anyone fancies a punt. I did seriously consider it but it's a wee bit long to drop a fifth wheel on and if you look in the old truck mags there's units for not much more all ready to go, that 14 ltr lump would be nice though.
Cavcraft Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Cheers, wouldn't want one for actual haulage just something to razz about in for a laugh.
Mr_Bo11ox Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Now this is a great thread, i'm loving it. What does 'club of four' mean when applied to a volvo truck?
scruff Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 I think it's to do with the cab on the F7, it was designed and shared with the 'club of four', Volvo, Renault/Savium and two others (Maggie Deutz and DAF I think?)
scruff Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Volvo F7 Renner Saviem, still see loads of these in France Maggie D I thought DAF used it too but that might have been a different cab.
oman5 Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Daf was involved in the club of four but didn't actually utilize the cab on anything.My mate had the Saviem version, called a JK75 I think, very rare now. 3.5 litre 4 pot but not bad for a wee puddle jumper
cms206 Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Could've sworn I saw a DAF with a Club of Four cab, similar size to that ikkle Saviem; Mack also used it in the States and possibly Australia.
mattblack Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 What the hell is this? Some kind of Commer? Commer Commando, later badged as Dodge. Some had Mercedes engines, which could account for the grille badge, although why it's on a 'C' sufix plate is a mystery... EDIT: Beaten to it! ^
quicksilver Posted January 1, 2012 Author Posted January 1, 2012 What the hell is this? Some kind of Commer? Commer Commando, later badged as Dodge. Some had Mercedes engines, which could account for the grille badge, although why it's on a 'C' sufix plate is a mystery... EDIT: Beaten to it! ^ Deffo not a Commando, wheels are too small and the arches look home made. Merc badge seems to be a red herring. Best guess so far is a recabbed Commer BF. Meanwhile, feast your eyes on this cache of Commie chodZillions! by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr One ZIL in a million by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr
Vin Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Didn't they do the 'Gang of four' cab as a bonnetted version. Seem to recall Magirus Deutz and Renault badged ones. Plant and tipper stuff mainly.
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