Six Cylinders Motoring Notes - Progress with the Mini Mayfair, if a little slow.

[chaseracer]

On 5/19/2020 at 5:26 PM, Six-cylinder said:

Oh yes I love W124s, our 200 TE is our 5th.

I still miss my 300E, but it beat me in the end.

[richardmorris]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

Groups of up to six people will be able to meet outside in England from Monday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.

 So small "Field of Dreams" gatherings are back on.

I with speak with Mrs6C and come up with a plan.

I think we can accommodate most people but not all on the same day.

I’m still cautious. R is still high enough for another peak.

[Stinkwheel]

I’m still cautious. R is still high enough for another peak.

I’m afraid I tend to agree.
Although Boris has said we can do things, we still have the highest per capita death toll. This is far from over and I’m not sure what they have advised we can now do is actually safe.

[richardmorris]

Also as much as I would like to play cars I won’t until after I can see my own family.

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

Groups of up to six people will be able to meet outside in England from Monday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.

 So small "Field of Dreams" gatherings are back on.

I with speak with Mrs6C and come up with a plan.

I think we can accommodate most people but not all on the same day.

oh yay! its nice to have some good news!  

(obviously if it turns out that things are deemed not safe for enough for a FoD gathering still then I fully understand that!)

[beko1987]

2 hours ago, richardmorris said:

Also as much as I would like to play cars I won’t until after I can see my own family.

This. My dad and stepmum are fucking gagging to get out of their bungalow and I'm sure they'll be sat at the end of my garden soon enough next week... But not sure about the FoD... There's only so much space under the bonnet of insert_broken_car_here

[LightBulbFun]

8 minutes ago, beko1987 said:

But not sure about the FoD... There's only so much space under the bonnet of insert_broken_car_here

I dunno, you could line up 6 inoperable vehicles 2 meters apart, each shitter chooses their broken vehicle of choice

and the first shitter to get it doing laps round the FoD wins some sort of prize (a snow globe where the little particles inside are entirely made up of bits of flaking paint off the side of my Invacar? LOL)

like the Autoshite FoD version of a top gear challenge or something

[dozeydustman]

I'd be up for it subject to dates not clashing with family events we have planned (4 birthdays in the next 2 months). Will bring tools and some seeds for Mrs Cylinders for next year's veg patch. Will happily work on anything French and suitcase powered.

[LightBulbFun]

8 minutes ago, dozeydustman said:

Will happily work on anything French and suitcase powered.

how about something English with an engine the size of a suitcase, is that an ok compromise?

[dollywobbler]

I can't see the harm if six local folk turn up, but having folk drive from all over the place may not be wise for now. Nice offer though.

[AnthonyG]

Happy to attend for a cup of tea in the open air, I’m not sure people will be able to work on vehicles though...

[MrDuke]

Well, I'm in the next county so kind of local. Although this week I've been in Wolverhampton, Bognor, and various places between, so I could be a massive walking vector, who knows?

Count me in anyway, YOLO etc...

[dozeydustman]

1 hour ago, LightBulbFun said:

how about something English with an engine the size of a suitcase, is that an ok compromise?

Only if a workshop manual is available; never worked on anything air cooled and unfamiliarity, especially with another person’s car, would make me cautious. If Rev isn’t sorted by the time restrictions are more relaxed then I’d have a go with assistance, or assist someone who knows a bit more about the Steyr-Puch engine. My familiarity with the PSA suitcase (along with an Essex V6, Simca rattlebag and XUD) means I would be happy tinkering on my todd. Also Ford tractors.

Dollywobbler, Beko and a couple of other have raised a few good points; the prospect of getting away from Chichester and its stuffy old giffer population for a day gives me much excite though! July is more of a goer for me due to the birthdays coming up. Also gives us more time to see how the world is.

[Christine]

Look it's quite simple..If you're English you can mix in groups of 8 (outdoors) If you're Scottish its six...if you're Welsh, is any combination of people/sheep that amount to 8.  Or 6.but only if you're related ( or from Durham ) What could be simpler? Or it might be the other way round..? Either way its not particularly lethal..if your white ,skinny and smoke.

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, dozeydustman said:

Only if a workshop manual is available; never worked on anything air cooled and unfamiliarity, especially with another person’s car, would make me cautious. If Rev isn’t sorted by the time restrictions are more relaxed then I’d have a go with assistance, or assist someone who knows a bit more about the Steyr-Puch engine. My familiarity with the PSA suitcase (along with an Essex V6, Simca rattlebag and XUD) means I would be happy tinkering on my todd. Also Ford tractors.

Dollywobbler, Beko and a couple of other have raised a few good points; the prospect of getting away from Chichester and its stuffy old giffer population for a day gives me much excite though! July is more of a goer for me due to the birthdays coming up. Also gives us more time to see how the world is.

DHSS Workshop Manual For The Model 70 Three Wheeler(OCR).pdf

et voila! 

 

but thankfully tho none of REVs "major" issues are with her drivetrain, apart from me wanting to do a general servicing/fluid change and carb cleaning I dont think any work needs doing on her engine (and id also like to go through all the grease/lube points etc if possible ) 

the main issues that need sorting with REV is sorting the brakes, which is just normal 7 inch girling stuff to which Im pretty sure I thankfully have all new hardware to hand in the spares stash if needed  (apart from actual brake line and some other small bits and bobs but nothing that I/we cant get from local motor factors or such)

second thing is sorting out her fuel system, @Mrs6C very kindly has already got REV's fuel tank out, so all that needs doing there is hopefully a quick cleaning up of the tank, patching of any pin holes or such if there are any (thankfully there's no visible rust holes like I feared) and then simply running new fuel line which is just a straight line from the tank through some chassis members to the fuel pump (via one of those inline filters of course) in the rear, and dropping the tank back in, again I have the suitable fuel hose filter and hose clamps "on hand" (assuming @Six-cylinder / @Mrs6C have not pinched them for something else!  )

and of finally the last major thing is she very much needs new tyres!

other smaller things include sorting out some slight electrical niggles (she is a fibreglass car after all!) main thing there is getting all the indicators, that one pesky rear light and the horn working, which im hoping will be a just a case of cleaning up some bad grounds and or replacing simple component etc

id also like to swap her head lamps out for some H4 units, her current ones work but the lenses are cracked and the reflectors are pretty sad, so I dont think they would be up for much good in the real world!

 

so yeah nothing major in the scheme of things hopefully! (main thing im worried about is making sure the braking system is working as it should, otherwise the rest is relatively small fry I think)

 

but yeah I fully understand if you don't feel comfortable working on her etc I appreciate the thought regardless  

[mat_the_cat]

9 hours ago, Christine said:

if you're Welsh, is any combination of people/sheep that amount to 8.

Except we're limited to within a 5 mile radius of home, so sadly, aaahm ooout. Although I'm allowed to drive 40 miles and mix with hundreds of people at work, who ignore the social distancing

Anyway, I hope the lucky 6 have a good, safe time. It would minimise any risk of spread if after the gathering, everyone avoided contact with others for a few days, just in case they had become infected.

[mitsisigma01]

12 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

how about something English with an engine the size of a suitcase, is that an ok compromise?

Buy a car and a tent for your mum.

tools, first aid kit and headcam for yourself. 

Get to the FoD, live stream group chat to the Autoshite font of knowledge and you'll be done within a few weekends. 

Job jobbed ???????

[beko1987]

I've just re read this and I'd be very up for sitting in my chair 2m away from anyone else chatting for an afternoon! 

 

Sorry, took me a while this morning... 

[Mrs6C]

34 minutes ago, beko1987 said:

I've just re read this and I'd be very up for sitting in my chair 2m away from anyone else chatting for an afternoon! 

I can give you the ZX to polish (again) too, if you get bored of tea and chat!

 

[Zelandeth]

Much as I'd love to come along, the advice from the most medically knowledgeable person in the house (who also happens to work for one of the group's responsible for collating the data on this situation) is "Don't even think about it" so that's me (forcibly) told.

[Slowsilver]

If you do go ahead it should be relatively straightforward to minimise the risks. I think the two golden rules would be:

1. Maintain at least the two metre distancing at all times.

2. Once you have handled something it is exclusively yours for the day.

Maybe you could start with a one day session rather than a whole weekend. With the above in mind I would suggest the following:

One person opens the gate, leaves it open so that nobody else needs to touch it, then closes it at the end of the day.
Cars parked maybe 3 or 4 metres apart. You have plenty of room to do this.
Everyone brings their own food and drink.
Each person picks a chair from the untouched pile up there, places it at least 2 metres (or preferably more) from any others, then uses the same chair all day and puts it back at the end.
Each person / family group picks a vehicle to tinker with and sticks with it, moving it away from any others being worked on if necessary.
We all bring and use only our own tools.
We don't use the toilet.
We have gloves and hand sanitiser available.

Then if we leave the next session for at least a week any infection left up there should have died off.

Assuming these conditions can be met the Silvers would be up for a visit. It is only about 4 miles away from us anyway, so no long-distance travel involved. If it wasn't for bringing tools and stuff we could walk it!
 

[hairnet]

40 minutes ago, Slowsilver said:

If you do go ahead it should be relatively straightforward to minimise the risks. I think the two golden rules would be:

1. Maintain at least the two metre distancing at all times. - if beko farts no problem

2. Once you have fondled something it is exclusively yours for the day. OOER

Maybe you could start with a one day session rather than a whole weekend. With the above in mind I would suggest the following: watching beko polish something for hours (not a helmet obvs)  id last a coupla minutes

One person opens the gate, leaves it open so that nobody else needs to touch it, then closes it at the end of the day.
Cars parked maybe 3 or 4 metres apart. You have plenty of room to do this. car? what is this strange of which you speak
Everyone brings their own food and drink. im down with that noone would get a look in anyway
Each person picks a chair from the untouched pile up there, places it at least 2 metres (or preferably more) from any others, then uses the same chair all day and puts it back at the end. - i can bring my own motorised seat
Each person / family group picks a vehicle to tinker with and sticks with it, moving it away from any others being worked on if necessary. gs wont be there
We all bring and use only our own tools. what if you are one
We don't use the toilet. im not jim bell i think ill be ok
We have gloves and hand sanitiser available. see below  

Then if we leave the next session for at least a week any infection left up there should have died off.

Assuming these conditions can be met the Silvers would be up for a visit. It is only about 4 miles away from us anyway, so no long-distance travel involved. If it wasn't for bringing tools and stuff we could walk it! yeah get some exercise cut down on yer porklife mate
 

[Mrs6C]

32 minutes ago, Slowsilver said:

We don't use the toilet.

Crumbs! That could be a bit awkward with all the tea

Suggest folk can just leave the door open (no-one will see!) and the lid up (did I say that?) and folk can bring their own loo roll to use...

We have disinfectant wipes for the loo seat.

[Talbot]

The whole rule about no more than 6 people together, but you still have to maintain 2m distancing seems absolutely absurd when you consider how many people are in any Tesco store at any one time and how many of those are within 2m of each other.  Granted, the less you expose yourself to that sort of situation the better, but it still seems like the rules on what you can/can't do under certain circumstances are utterly dis-proportionate.

mat_the_cat's example above is a prime example.  "You must stay within 5 miles of home and not interact with anyone".  "Except if you're going to work, then travel all you want and do what you have to in proximity of others at work".  "Oh, or if you're going shopping, then again you can travel and do your best to stay away from others if you can"

That said, probably best to just wait a bit longer until the risk related to this situation is further reduced.  We've all made it nearly 11 weeks so far, another few might make all the difference.

[beko1987]

3 hours ago, Talbot said:

The whole rule about no more than 6 people together, but you still have to maintain 2m distancing seems absolutely absurd when you consider how many people are in any Tesco store at any one time and how many of those are within 2m of each other.  .

None, I've been to tesco just now! 

After meeting mummy in Winslow Park (it had a fancy name, can't remember it) 

But then we went to their back garden after an hour in the park and it's the first time the kids have seen them since late Feb... 

Stayed a few hours, came home. 

I've not got the kids this weekend, so I'm game. Can even bring my own chair for maximum non contact. 

And this toilet talk, I usually just leave it open. It's very peaceful taking a dump looking out over the field... 

[somewhatfoolish]

 

Is there a hedge? Shovel recce, for those in need. BYOBW(bring your own bronco toilet slices).

[Six-cylinder]

eBay purchase of the day!

So I am reading there are concerns that it to soon to be mixing with others from some people and I respect that. This is all about if you want too!

I am keen to protect Mrs6C and myself, but feel if we stick to the guidelines we can minimise the risks to each other. 

Some might want to wait, others attend, but sit in there own chair, consume there own vittals and do or touch nothing. This is the FoD you are allowed to do what your like, within reason! 

We have lots of hand sanitiser, gloves and wipes but we will not be providing any food or drink.

We are just trying to sort out a first date which might be mid week and then I will announce it.

[beko1987]

I'd just be glad to talk to anyone except work colleagues and my mum for a bit really! 

I know their wanting to come and meet you but I'll not invite them yet. Won't tell the kids either, their screaming to come and see you! Driving to Winslow earlier they clocked the 413 was the way towards yours, bless! 

[LightBulbFun]

been thinking about this a lot

as im very excited at the prospect of seeing my Invacar again and after almost a year since I got her, of finally getting some proper work done towards getting her road worthy

but im worried given the situation at hand if id actually be able to get anything done, or if I can even get to the FoD in the first place given that im reliant on someone giving me a lift from MKC station to the FoD

ironically if I had REV on the road etc that would not be a problem and I could just drive down, bit of a chicken and egg problem eh! 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

Bring your own PPE?