Six Cylinders Motoring Notes - a Workshop Day Today

[beko1987]

Another problem you have LBF is it's too bloody small! Slow & Quick silver have an advantage in that they can work together. I'd love to spend an afternoon with a beer or 5, a can of brake cleaner, pack of wire wool and 2500grit, soldering iron, new crimps and heatshrink etc but no one else can go near whilst I do, so for now, just getting the wheels on properly will be a good step!

I forgot on both days too, I have 2 PSA (think their from my 1994 ZX, or maybe a Laguna 2 but I don't fully remember buying any, although I could have kept some when the old one went for scrap) wheel bolts I meant to offer up to see if it fitted. Will leave them rattling around in the door pocket so I can forget about them next time...

[LightBulbFun]

12 minutes ago, Slowsilver said:

No problem. It was an interesting* challenge, and if it was easy anyone could do it.  It's the problem solving that makes it interesting.
With 3 flat tyres and partially seized brakes we decided not to attempt to move them as it would have made much more work for not much advantage, especially as we would have had to move them back again afterwards.
At the time Dolly had no carburettor and REV no petrol tank so we made no attempt to start either.
The ignition key was in REV because I did get to spend a small amount of time checking out the electrics. Unfortunately the problems appear to be more than just corroded bulbs or bulb holders. All the side and rear lights work OK but I was unable to check the headlights as the switch refused to go into the headlamp position and I didn't want to force it and break it. The left-hand front indicator works OK but despite me cleaning up the bulb and the holder contacts the rear just glows very dimly. The right hand rear indicator works OK but the front one does not work at all. The bulb is intact and I again cleaned the contacts, but no joy.
Checking the lights on Dolly showed that the side and rear lights and one headlamp worked OK but the number plate light did not and the other headlamp is also very dim. I did quickly check the voltage at the number plate light socket and there was only about 4.5 volts on it, so I suspect there are problems on both with corroded high-resistance connections elsewhere in the looms.
I didn't take many pictures as I was rather short of spare hands but the random few I did take are below:

ah awesome stuff! happy to hear you where able give a quick look at the electrical  gremlins for me once again its much appreciated  yeah I do recall the head lamp switch being a bit gritty, probably needs opening up and cleaning up at some point, but at least last year! the head lamps where fully functional so hopefully just have the indicator issues to solve! (and the horn also needs seeing to/a thwack with a suitably sized hammer?)

Thanks for the photos too  (the stack of 4 tyres/wheels amuses me, given its 2, 3 wheeler cars!)

(where is REV's fuel tank do you know? I know @Mrs6C kindly removed it to inspect it a few months ago, but I was not sure if it was stuck back in REV or put somewhere else for safe keeping or such!)

9 minutes ago, beko1987 said:

Another problem you have LBF is it's too bloody small! Slow & Quick silver have an advantage in that they can work together. I'd love to spend an afternoon with a beer or 5, a can of brake cleaner, pack of wire wool and 2500grit, soldering iron, new crimps and heatshrink etc but no one else can go near whilst I do, so for now, just getting the wheels on properly will be a good step!

 

haha yeah, I very much appreciate the thought however  hopefully once the general situation improves things can be done!

[beko1987]

Just now, LightBulbFun said:

 

haha yeah, I very much appreciate the thought however  hopefully once the general situation improves things can be done!

It's more waiting for the important stuff to be done so it's left alone enough to have a bash. I had my NV200 turned on right next to them as Charlie was vacuuming out the boat. I did think of spending 5 minutes on them as everyone was drinking tea etc. But their both full of tools and parts. Parts laid out very carefully so they stay where they are until needed. Can't move those.

[Floatylight]

Been back about an hour, straight in the shower! @Smoll Floatylight and I Had a fabulous weekend, although Smoll spent most of yesterday recovering from over indulgence in@Mrs6C 's cider.

Thanks to Chris and Claire for their hospitality as always and great to see everyone again, felt like a bit of normality after an odd few months..

Have an exclusive* bonus edition Renner 11 photo..

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[beko1987]

Bless him, he came and was mopey by us for a while (laid by the c8) and my stepmum gave him no slack! He found a reason to wander off after a while! 

Hope the dyson is good for the car! ( @AnthonyG your bin found cylinder dyson now belongs to Mr Floatylight!) 

[beko1987]

 I didn't take any photo's, but I forgot Eva had a camera on her...  

     

[LightBulbFun]

I have said it before but she is pretty damn good at taking photographs! 

14 minutes ago, beko1987 said:

its always quite interesting just how basic/little there is to this thing!

it would be fun to do the bare minimum to get it road legal/worthy to it, then drive it around central London like that or something LOL

does anyone have a picture of what it would have looked like when new/complete or such?

[Mr Pastry]

12 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

does anyone have a picture of what it would have looked like when new/complete or such?

[Mr Pastry]

Honda Melody.  I got mine from Freecycle.  Parts were a problem as there were so many sub-types that nothing quite fitted.  Worked OK because Honda, but not very inspiring IMO.

[LightBulbFun]

9 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said:

ah interesting I knew it was a Honda Melody but I dont know enough about them etc to know if there where multiple types etc

so its appreciated! 

interesting to see it has a back bone chassis I always thought for some reason Moped/scooters of that style where more or less a monocoque design ie what you see in the photo you posted is the load bearing structure of the moped but clearly its just a load of body panels bolted to a chassis!

[Mr Pastry]

1 minute ago, LightBulbFun said:

a load of body panels bolted to a chassis!

A load of very floppy plastic (ABS?) body panels not bolted on very much.

[LightBulbFun]

10 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said:

A load of very floppy plastic (ABS?) body panels not bolted on very much.

Hmm now where have I seen that before!

reminds of when the then the Q plate Model 70 first showed up (and was for sale at that time) and at the time all I had was a picture of the front of it, and Stuart wisely pointed out, it might not be a Model 70, if its a Model 67, then run away! LOL

(because the Villiers machines as @egg and now @BlankFrank have found out the hard way! sadly do not have very substantial chassis being a simple back bone type affair, which sadly means they suffer a lot more compared to the Model 70 when dumped somewhere for decades on end!)

[richardmorris]

50 minutes ago, Mr Pastry said:

A load of very floppy plastic (ABS?) body panels not bolted on very much.

Sounds like a Citroen mehari!

[Six-cylinder]

I have a very rare Vauxhall hubcap to sell!

You will not find these on McLarens or Lamborghinis!

Buy now while you can and this is an auction starting price 1.00, I did not say £ anything goes!

I was taking the photos of where it lay and the builder opposite engaged me in conversion enquiring why I was photographing him. “It’s not you mate it’s this hub cap”!  

@dollywobbler

@Slowsilver

[Floatylight]

I have a very rare Vauxhall hubcap to sell!
You will not find these on McLarens or Lamborghinis!
Buy now while you can and this is auction starting price 1.00, I did not say £ anything goes!
I was taking the photos of where it lay and the builder opposite engaged me in conversion enquiring why I was photographing him. “It’s not you mate it’s this hub cap”!  
[mention=3690]dollywobbler[/mention]
[mention=22043]Slowsilver[/mention]

Did you find the end of a spring to go with it?

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[quicksilver]

There's a strange coincidence, @dollywobbler lost a wheeltrim from the one he tested. Perhaps you could sell it to him.

[beko1987]

56 minutes ago, Floatylight said:

Did you find the end of a spring to go with it?

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Ah Mr slowsilver had that in his hand, I think Ian picked that up. I bet he's already repaired it and the chemical metal is setting as we speak! 

Although for the silvers, I doubt a front spring change is going to pose many issues! 

[beko1987]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://club.autodoc.co.uk/pdf-manuals/astra-g/astra-g-cc/front-suspension-spring/EN-How-to-replace-front-suspension-springs-on-OPEL-ASTRA-G-(T98-F08-F48).pdf&ved=2ahUKEwihisa29MzqAhXQSsAKHYqeBFsQFjAEegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw3VDOS-vfKbgXDE_BUAX1Nd

 

[Slowsilver]

Excellent. It's probably not worth a lot now as it undoubtedly got badly scratched when it hit the road. It was of course absolutely perfect* before. I might just agree to mow your paddock (not a euphemism) as payment, weather permitting ?.
 

[Six-cylinder]

33 minutes ago, Slowsilver said:

Excellent. It's probably not worth a lot now as it undoubtedly got badly scratched when it hit the road. It was of course absolutely perfect* before. I might just agree to mow your paddock (not a euphemism) as payment, weather permitting ?.
 

Face looks great just a couple of chips out on the edge.

[Slowsilver]

1 minute ago, Six-cylinder said:

Face looks great just a couple of chips out on the edge.

To be honest they were probably there before it fell off. I was simply trying to reduce the price from 1.00 to 0.00 ?.
 

[richardmorris]

16 minutes ago, Slowsilver said:

To be honest they were probably there before it fell off. I was simply trying to reduce the price from 1.00 to 0.00 ?.
 

Is he actually trying to sell you back your own wheeltrim? Once a second hand car dealer, always a ......

[Six-cylinder]

5 minutes ago, richardmorris said:

Is he actually trying to sell you back your own wheeltrim? Once a second hand car dealer, always a ......

It's a question of supply and demand my boy!

[Slowsilver]

Alternatively I could offer a straight swap for an empty and crushed Pepsi can with provenance, retrieved by the (in)famous Mr. HubNut and kindly* left in one of the many cubbyholes in the Zafira.
 

[beko1987]

1 hour ago, richardmorris said:

Is he actually trying to sell you back your own wheeltrim? Once a second hand car dealer, always a ......

There's demand now. Some bloke's posted up on the for sale forum wanting an exact same trim. Supply and demand now... 

[Zelandeth]

There we go...Found some photos of my old Renault 11TC.

Still can't quite believe she was only a 1.2.  Went incredibly well for it and even in this base-tastic form (guessing the rear wiper was a paid for extra given wheel trims weren't even included originally!) was a really comfy way to cover distances.  I did a couple of runs to Inverness in this (about 3 hours) and never felt that journey drag like it did in some other cars.

Compared to things I've seen on some other 11s, here are my one's base credentials.

[] Manual mirrors.

[] No padding on the door cards.

[] No temperature gauge.

[] No oil level gauge.

[] No clock.

[] No fuel warning light (no bulb or wiring!)

[] No central locking.

[] No power steering.

[] No power windows.

[] No split rear seat.

[] No trip meter.

[] No locking fuel cap.

[] Simplified side rubbing strips.

[] No centre heater vents.

[] No headlight on warning buzzer.

[] 155SR13 tyres.

[] Single speed wipers with no intermittent mode.

[] No dash lighting dimmer.

I did at least add a clock and the centre heater vents after a while when I found a higher trim level one in a scrapper which I pulled the little (and surprisingly useful) cubby by the heater controls out of.

The only gripe I had with this motor was that it wasn't quite a phase 1 nor a phase 2.  It was the one made during the swap to the facelifted model and as such was made using whatever parts Renault found rolling around on the factory floor.  As such finding parts for it was an absolute nightmare, even in 2004.  Remember spending nearly three weeks trying to track down a CV boot.

Still was a lovely little thing to drive though and I'd gladly have it as a daily runaround again nowadays if it were still on the road (it's not...Managed another three or four years after I sold it, but long gone now).

[wuvvum]

Single speed wipers, seriously?  In 1987?

[Zelandeth]

1 hour ago, wuvvum said:

Single speed wipers, seriously?  In 1987?

Yep!  No automatic wiping with the washers either...you want to wash AND wipe, you'll need to switch the wipers on yourself, mate!

[Ghosty]

Hyde, the next town over from me, and a place I frequent, came up twice over the weekend. 

DW's GSA's rear plate is from a Citroen dealer in Hyde (the phone line is dead, but I wonder if that's now the still-extant Stoneacre Citroen/Fiat?). Not the original dealer though as the car is Lincs registered, as quicksilver correctly asserted. 

@dozeydustman also has a friend in Hyde that he says needs to be on here on account of his fleet. 

Strange to say the least for home to crop up twice when I'm 150 miles away. 

[Six-cylinder]

9 hours ago, Zelandeth said:

There we go...Found some photos of my old Renault 11TC.

Did the 1.4 ever have injection in the UK?

Some Spanish guy in the Renault Club FB comments says the reason it has a gearbox problem is because it should be injection.