Worthless

[cort16]

BMW e28's are cheap. Okay the m535's make good money and there's always a few dreamers trying to get 2 grand for a 518i or whatever on ebay but you can still get decent ones for around a grand and they're really nice to drive, have great interiors and are solidly built. I guess like the Merc's they've not got that working class hero thing going on so even though they're much better engineered than other cars of that era they don't seem to have a "oh my dad used to drive one of those" following.

That blue 525e I had  drove so nicely it was like driving a modern car, which is a flaw I guess as it was a bit boring so I sold it.

[Junkman]

Every used car in the UK is absolutely underpriced and worthless for someone from Euro-country. Your prices are ridiculously low, can´t imagine what effect it would have on our used car marked.

 

Look at www.gebrauchtwagen.at what prices are normal here. You all will have to pop your eyes back in.

 

Lukas

Yeah, but Austria is just the other extreme. Why Austrians are willing to spend more on used chod than any other nation on earth is as inexplicable as why it is so cheap in the UK.

[Lukas]

Not so much more expensive than Germany or Italy or so. Look at Denmark...

[phil_lihp]

The Bluebird that retrogeezer was selling was a classic example - a spacious, reliable, smart family car that could hardly be given away.  I've noticed a similar trend on ebay with late nineties Honda Accords - OK, not very exciting cars but superb engines, faultless reliability and plenty of space and toys, yet you can pick up a tidy V-plate model for £300, which is Mondeo/Vectra money for a car that should in theory be a much better used buy.  It seems to be anything large and Japanese after 10-15 years becomes practically scrap value and I don't really understand why.

[Junkman]

Not so much more expensive than Germany or Italy or so. Look at Denmark...

True too, and I'm not that well informed regarding 'normal' used cars. However, I'm deeply involved in the international classic car market and there it becomes very obvious that global, let alone British, market values are extremely exceeded in Germany and Austria.

[J-T]

My old W124 sold easily so not all Mercs are unsaleable.

 

I have no idea why the Mk2 Mister Two is so cheap other than the fact that they are so plentyful. In 10 years I'm sure they'll be fetching good money though.

 

I wouldn't be so sure of that, if you look at the values of mk1 MR2s now, they still make sod all really. £2k would buy an absolute minter.

 

I don't particularly like them, but Golf VR6s can be had for £500 now, which is a lot of car for the money. Fiat coupe turbos can still be had very cheaply due to the reputation. Each time I see one I'm tempted!

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

I'd quite like an MGF to be honest, must be the K-Series attraction! Speaking of which, I saw a 10 plate MGTF yesterday, seemed very late? I'd probably have an F over the TF though.

 

The Chinese ones are the LE500. They built assembled less than a thousand of them at Longbridge between 2008 and 2011. Marketing and automotive experts worldwide were baffled by its failure to succeed despite the winning formula of relaunching a dead brand with a ten year old design badly made from Chinese kits in a semi abandoned Midlands factory, pricing it above the newer MX-5 and then not advertising it. 

[Justin Case]

Lukas, is the Austrian car market like the UK one, based on leasing new cars and then persuading the lessor, whether company or individual to repeat the process every three years. This results in a glut of used cars on the market, which means that a new £22k Mondeo is only worth £11k after 3 years, and this causes a ripple effect right down to the Autoshite level.

 

Anyway, why should we worry? I'm wondering about getting another car, and even fairly modern German stuff with petrol engines over 2 litres is ridiculously cheap compared to nasty new eco-boxes; the Mondeo effect seems to be even more pronounced higher up the food chain

[rover420]

I've got a V reg MGF VVC sat on my drive which suffered HGF last year. Its sat there over a year now and is pretty mouldy inside.

 

If anyone wants it let me know, I'm just outside Colchester

[Rocket88]

E36 Beemers are now in serious chod territory, in my opinion [worthless, I grant you] the last Beemer you could fix yourself with some basic mechanical aptitude. I've got a 323 ragtop, and it's one of the nicest bits of old poo I've ever owned

[CortinaDave]

Mk2 Mondeo. Even very tidy ones are only worth what you'd get over the weighbridge. Yet they're actually a good, capable, fairly reliable and economical car.

 

Been that way for years too - the Focus has always held its price better, so for a long time you could get a mondeo with same engine and spec for near half of what you'd pay for the equivalent Focus

[hairymel]

I've just been looking on the bay at rover 600ti. Quiet cheap and looks like a church going vehicle. 200bhp though so bit of a sleeper!

 

had one for a year and thoroughly enjoyed it.

 

comfy and v quick point to point.

 

 neg points :

 

exploding window regulators

 

exploding gearboxes

 

usually leak a bit of oil.

 

slightly dead steering (but good roadholding)

 

only sold it to make space for a v cheap mk1 scooby legacy turdblower.

 

 

would recommend one - make sure you give it a blast about before buying.

 

[Spiny Norman]

I think once a car gets a reputation, deserved or not, for having 'issues' then it'll never sell well.

Add the usual reluctance of people in this country to keep an old car running rather than spunk £199 a month on some hateful shopping trolley and you have a depreciation disaster in waiting.

 

Or, the other way of looking at it is from the shiter's perspective....

Want a neat, zippy, 2 door, mid engined sporty car for £500? No problem.

2 litre family saloon for the price of a couple of tyres on an Insignia? Easy.

Plush, fast, luxury barge that cost more than your house did when new for the price of a new clutch on a Diseasel VW? Your cup overfloweth with riches.

[dollywobbler]

I think once a car gets a reputation, deserved or not, for having 'issues' then it'll never sell well.

 

Unless it has a Land Rover badge on it, dare I say!

[Cavcraft]

Mk2 Mondeo, Mk3 Mondeo (incredibly unwanted), Renault Laguna, Rover 400 (newer type), Vectra B and Ford Escort Mk6/7/whatever.

[John F]

Mk 3 Cavaliers can fetch reasonable money for a (minimum) 18-year old car, especially the sportier or more luxurious models.

[Rusty Pelican]

MK 6 Escorts are worthless and only go for frag money around here which is no surprise as they are shit not shite ( in the looks department anyway )

[CortinaDave]

I hada couple of the late model escorts and personally I thought they were alright! had a P reg Si and a W plate finesse TD. Ex girlfriend had a J-reg Mk5 and - while it was a fairly miserable drive - she ran it for three years without having to do anything other than put petrol and the occasional litre of oil in it, so you cant grumble.

 

As a car for someone like her - who wasnt interested in cars and just wanted something cheap to run and fix, it was ideal.

[Rusty Pelican]

They probably are OK to hoon about in but they are just so gopping to look at i couldnt drive one without a mask on , To me they are the same as  the Nissan Juke in butt ugliness 

[Station]

I like the mk5 Escort - my brother had a saloon one that had been tastefully modified in white and it was a nice looking car and OK to drive, with those roundy, bubbly interiors only Ford seem to do.

 

Would a Maestro fall into this category? They seem unloved whatever the age.

[Volksy]

Volvo 850 saloons and S70's, great cars but pretty unloved in saloon spec.

[Shep Shepherd]

^

 

The same can be said for the saloon versions of the 700 and 900.

[rml2345]

All Volvo saloons seem pretty unloved and often fetch much less than their estate counterparts which is brilliant for folk like me who hate going to Ikea. 

Rover 800s seem to be worth the square root of sod all still. 

[Tetleysmooth]

Apparently, my Chrysler Grand Voyager ain't worth a sack 'o shit either.

[Pillock]

There's quite a lot of cars that are only worth money when mint. Late Escorts spring to mind.... a well looked after example might still be a fair few hundred quid, but as soon as it has a few rust patches and a cracked bumper, it's scrap money.

[tooSavvy]

Nobody seems interested in Saab 9000s.  This clean looking one with nearly a year's mot went for £361. 

Ahh... 9k lurvve XXX :<)

 

Petrol beinn wot it is & zeroski 'scene tax'..... bridge to death [keep the cat to weigh in separately] say na more.

 

Wasn't one in a 999 strip run?.... blew the timers away & lost both windscreen wipers....I lurvedd mine :<)

 

2.3 'full fat' Turrbo [old block - no counterbalance shaft] with a SERIOUS trrbo on it... StarshipEnterprise Zone F.T.W.

 

tooSavvy

[pompei]

Mrs P had an RX8 (briefly) and I was underwhelmed by it...

[Lord Sterling]

Was browsing the local rag the other day when I spotted a Chrysler 300C 3.0 V6 CRD Diesesel with T+T up for £1,350, are they really that cheap now?

[Junkman]

No.

[ypsilandra]

MK 6 Escorts are worthless and only go for frag money around here which is no surprise as they are shit not shite ( in the looks department anyway )

 

I think this is a Mk 6, it's been on the forecourt of a local Ford dealership for a few weeks. Not taxed since Feb 12, seems a bit steep to me!