Lazy spotters thread

[500tops]

A few from today from a local show near Looe.

[Rustybullethole]

Maxxus box van parked too long in the ends 

These things really do have tin foil body panels. A decent fart would cave the wing in, this one had been parked by touch like an old Parisian Rena and the rust was only been kept at bay by the graff paint. 

[NorfolkNWeigh]

21 hours ago, Bradders59 said:

Looks like an old 911 Targa to me. Im not seeing anything there that suggests it wouldnt be. 

Definitely not red though. 

Exactly.  It looks like an early 70’s Targa.

it would be registered as

Make: Porsche 

Model: 911 Targa ( not Sports)

instead of this ;

Although it belongs to some Hooray that owns a watchmaking company so you’d have thought he’d have the money to make a more convincing job of other dodgy logbook.  On social media he reckons he’s “ aged” a white 3.0Targa to do this…

[barrett]

16 minutes ago, NorfolkNWeigh said:

Exactly.  It looks like an early 70’s Targa.

it would be registered as

Make: Porsche 

Model: 911 Targa ( not Sports)

instead of this ;

Although it belongs to some Hooray that owns a watchmaking company so you’d have thought he’d have the money to make a more convincing job of other dodgy logbook.  On social media he reckons he’s “ aged” a white 3.0Targa to do this…

Time for me to leave this here again:

The DVLA and its forebears will put all manner of shite down in the make and model field, particularly with an imported car. I had a MAKE: PANHARDDYNAX once. I wouldn't use how a car is registered on the DVLA as any indication that there's been funny business.

Even if it's not a real Porsche, then maybe '911 Targa Sport' really is the correct description of it, based on 1979 oily bits. Life's too short to worry about this shit man, just let the guy drive round in his old car and enjoy himself, he's not causing grief to anyone.

[Datsuncog]

Someone knows how to travel to Lidl in style during a heatwave.

Digging those whitewalls paired with RS (?) alloys. 

Full Ghia spec - though you'd have thought today would be just perfect to unfurl the rear-mounted rollerblind and shade the interior from the rays pouring in through the back hatch. But no. Maybe the owner's waiting for the thermometer to hit 50°C before cracking it open.

Still, clearly a much-loved Escort in daily use - APPROVED.

[LightBulbFun]

On 17/07/2022 at 17:23, NorfolkNWeigh said:

Not sure what to make of this , looks a bit Singer/ Magnus Walker.

But when you check it online it comes back as :

Make : 911 Targa Sports.

Model :  -

Colour: Red

Year: 1979

First reg: April 1980

Capacity : 2994cc

Never been MOT’d.

No mention of Porsche at all ,  maybe on some dodgy kit car logbook.  Whatever, it would seem to be a ringer.

 

2 hours ago, barrett said:

Time for me to leave this here again:

The DVLA and its forebears will put all manner of shite down in the make and model field, particularly with an imported car. I had a MAKE: PANHARDDYNAX once. I wouldn't use how a car is registered on the DVLA as any indication that there's been funny business.

Even if it's not a real Porsche, then maybe '911 Targa Sport' really is the correct description of it, based on 1979 oily bits. Life's too short to worry about this shit man, just let the guy drive round in his old car and enjoy himself, he's not causing grief to anyone.

 

3 hours ago, NorfolkNWeigh said:

Exactly.  It looks like an early 70’s Targa.

it would be registered as

Make: Porsche 

Model: 911 Targa ( not Sports)

instead of this ;

Although it belongs to some Hooray that owns a watchmaking company so you’d have thought he’d have the money to make a more convincing job of other dodgy logbook.  On social media he reckons he’s “ aged” a white 3.0Targa to do this…

 

due to how the DVLA system works in coded form, you cant have a custom model, full stop

you can have a custom make inputted into the system in fully free handed lettered form,

but the model can only be in coded form and if a code does not exist for it it cant be inputted in the model field on the V5/Vehicle record (and for their to even be a Model code in the first place, there has to be a make code first)

 

so if you have something weird that exists in no coded form, thats when you get everything squashed into the Make field like so Harding is the make and "Model IV" is the well the Model! but you simply cant have "Model IV" in the model field because no code exists for it (and no make code exists for Harding for their to be a Model code to be underneath it)

so anything weird/obscure/not in mass production when the DLVA computer was setup in the 1970's will get recorded as 1 line in the make field if you force it through

so they could have Porsche 911

but under the Porsche make code there is no model code for "911 Tagra sports" (only 911 Turbo Tagra sports) so someone probably forced it through if it was not registered like that from the get go

and thus creating the "strange" looking record

 

a prime example of this

is the Proper make code for a true Thames Ditton AC, like a Genuine AC Cobra is: Z0 

but this  decodes to "AC (ELECTRIC)" (because someone at the DVLA fucked up the lookup table but thats another story, back in the 80's it would properly decode to just "AC")

and I have seen keepers of proper thames Ditton AC's force a change with the DVLA because they look at their V5c see "AC (ELECTRIC) and think their car is registered wrong (when in-fact AC (ELECTRIC ) is actually correct!), and try and force through how they think their car should be registered take for example this AC 3000ME, and they end up with the record a mess and everything squashed onto the Make line, because thats the only place the DVLA can custom input something

as others said nothing about its record look wrong to me, I cant comment on the car itself, but the DVLA record looks fine to me, nothing wrong or dodgy about it

 

just someone probably was not happy their V5 only said "Porsche" or only said "Porsche 911" and tried to force it through the full model name, thus forcing the DVLA to treat the vehicle as non coded vehicle

 

the hierarchy of the DVLA system is such that if you register vehicle and its make exists in coded form, but its model does not, the DVLA will properly register the vehicle in its coded make form, and drop the non coded model

before they resort to cramming everything into the make field in custom form

which is why for example @Kiltox's Fiat Panda 30 is just registered as a "Fiat" by the DVLA https://autoshite.com/topic/43095-italian-stallion-kiltox’s-1982-fiat-panda-30/page/7/?tab=comments#comment-2570937

 

and again this is why @barrett has his weird examples, because none of those exist in coded form, so the DVLA are forced to cram it all into the make field, its the only place the DVLA people can freely write what they want

 

If you want to know a bit more I have done a small writeup on the DVLA's coded system here  https://autoshite.com/topic/23298-93-mondy-thread-k-reg-foi-update/page/53/?tab=comments#comment-2531439

 

[puddlethumper]

30 minutes ago, Datsuncog said:

Someone knows how to travel to Lidl in style during a heatwave.

Digging those whitewalls paired with alloys. 

Full Ghia spec - though you'd have thought today would be just perfect to unfurl the rear-mounted rollerblind and shade the interior from the rays pouring in through the back hatch. But no. Maybe the owner's waiting for the thermometer to hit 50°C before 

Still, clearly a much-loved Escort in daily use - APPROVED.

 

My motorhome is J636LMW. Hows about that!

[CreepingJesus]

The badge on the back said 'Razorback' I think, but looks better built than a cursory glance suggests. 

[Andrew353w]

1 hour ago, Datsuncog said:

Someone knows how to travel to Lidl in style during a heatwave.

Still, clearly a much-loved Escort in daily use - APPROVED.

The words "Lidl" and "style" are not often seen in the same sentence..........

[NorfolkNWeigh]

3 hours ago, barrett said:

Time for me to leave this here again:

The DVLA and its forebears will put all manner of shite down in the make and model field, particularly with an imported car. I had a MAKE: PANHARDDYNAX once. I wouldn't use how a car is registered on the DVLA as any indication that there's been funny business.

Even if it's not a real Porsche, then maybe '911 Targa Sport' really is the correct description of it, based on 1979 oily bits. Life's too short to worry about this shit man, just let the guy drive round in his old car and enjoy himself, he's not causing grief to anyone.

You might not be quite so magnanimous  if it was your 1972 2.4S Targa that he’d nicked. Or is it Ok when posh Goodwood types ring something rather than Chavs ringing Imprezas or banger racers having old Granadas away ?

 

[Schaefft]

More Croatia spots, now close to Dubrovnik. I've seen quite a few US imports so far, this 1997ish Camry LE being one of them. Also saw a 1991 US Accord that I couldn't get a photo of as well as a freaking Chrysler Pacifica minivan.

Also plenty of Polo based oddities still around, this Cordoba being owned by one of the locals.

[Schaefft]

Two blue 90s saloons from opposite ends of the market. Plenty of Astra F still around, including the 4-door. The A8 was the correct spec 4.2 V8 as it should be.

[Schaefft]

W124 seen everywhere and rarer E34 in glorious base spec 518i trim. Also Kadett E, a few of them are still around here!

[J R Hartley]

[Stanky]

Scored an absolute corker tonight while out longboarding

Renner 25 LWB 'Limousine' - managed to catch the driver and get a bit of backstory - its the only one left in the UK, it originally came with a 2.5v6 and autobox, which predictably went mega wrong and he replaced it with a 2.1TD (XUD?) and manual box himself, as well as doing a rolling resto on it. Its full leather interior too. Absolute stunner. He was on his way back to Worthing from a French classic show at Beaulieu last weekend and stopped off for a stroll on the beach. What a find!

Plus a couple of less amazing, but still half decent local spots from the last 6 months

Lives outside a £1m+ mansion on Lee-on-the-Solent seafront. Winner.

Owned by a friend of the local Va*xh*ll pervert and has a 2.0 redtop I understand. Very 'Max Power' but a rare sight these days.

[barrett]

1 hour ago, NorfolkNWeigh said:

You might not be quite so magnanimous  if it was your 1972 2.4S Targa that he’d nicked. Or is it Ok when posh Goodwood types ring something rather than Chavs ringing Imprezas or banger racers having old Granadas away ?

 

It's not a 1972 car though, is it? It's clearly a much later car dressed up with some older details, exactly as it says. The body of an early car is totally different form the later ones. Whilst I'm sure cars do still get stolen and 'rung' I don't think it happens with this sort of thing. An old Porsche might get lifted, but it would be off to some far-off bit of the middle east where nobody's gonna check that sort of thing, not given the identity of a far less valuable version of the same car and sold back to the UK - and if you're 'posh' you'd just buy a real one, wouldn't you?

[HMC]

[NorfolkNWeigh]

 

That white one is supposedly the same car, as you say a 1979 body is entirely different and there is not one visible part in common on those two 911s. Maybe the red one, wherever or whatever it might be could clear it up. 
 

As for upper class enthusiasts and dealers somehow being more honest just because they can afford it,is laughable . 

[500tops]

[Datsuncog]

Clean 5dr Nova that's appeared locally - G287APO .

Looks fairly standard, bar the window tint, wheeltrim delete and curious rallycross-style tape over the headlights.

Hopefully it'll not end up being barried and/or nicked - it's not parked in a great area, and I can't see any anti-theft devices fitted...

[500tops]

[D.E]

"Te koop" = for sale

[HMC]

[sutty2006]

6 hours ago, D.E said:

"Te koop" = for sale

“Chicken Koop” more like 😂

[Stinkwheel]

Spotted this morning…
Hmmmm brown BL hydragas goodness

[maxxo]

You see, it just makes me want one more

[Schaefft]

Relevant to above. No clue who would buy a black c6 with black leather interior in Croatia though. Also beat up Lancia Kappa!

[Schaefft]

Triumph registered in Florida, automatic 323C and the aforementioned Accord in US-spec!

[Schaefft]

Also this!

[Back_For_More]

Apologies - but slow getting the phone out as it hammered past..... Granada coupe in the distance