Infamous Shite in History.

[JimH]

Do you know of a house with an unusual amount of chod parked outside? #justsayin

[lesapandre]

Isn't that "do you know of a house with an unusual amount of plod outside?"

Now demolished of course. There is a whole additional thread here of infamous houses still standing.

But in the nastiest cases they demolish the building and occasionally rename the street.

Notice in the second picture the house number has disappeared - wonder if that was taken by a souvenir hunter...

[Richard_FM]

I remember a Renault 14 in some news footage of Dennis Nilsen's flat being cleared out by the police.

As well as the Corsairs, Peter Sutcliffe owned a Morris Minor, Ford Capri, Sunbeam Rapier & Rover 3500.

[AnthonyG]

20 hours ago, Vinylseats said:

Jeremy Bamber/White House Farm murders

 

 

Did he own both cars or was the Citroen his fathers? 

The ITV adaption of the story a couple of years ago was pretty good, lots of early 80s shite featured, although the Jeremy Bamber character drove a MkI Astra GTE rather than an XR3. 

[bunglebus]

Everyone knows Ted Bundy drove a beige Beetle and lured several of his victims inside. However it was stealing a different Beetle that lead to his arrest and discovery of his crimes

The owner ^ eventually got it back, drove it for a few months then sold it. Currently AWOL unlike his beige one which is in a museum

[morrisoxide]

This springs into mind with old car shite and crimes.

The Freddie Mills' (Champion Boxer) Citroen DS.

He was the one of the main suspects for being Jack the stripper (aka Hammersmith nude murders) and Epsteined his self whilst sat in the DS.

Another story or perhaps the same story, says he was shot by one of the Kray twins.

[Boycie]

The infamous John Cannon mini with a telling false plate 

[sierraman]

17 minutes ago, Boycie said:

The infamous John Cannon mini with a telling false plate 

Interestingly he used a Sierra round the same time, years later it was tracked down by detectives in a breakers in London, despite finding DNA in it linking to Suzy Lamplugh they still can’t charge him. Supposedly at the time he had a black BMW 316, which lived on for a few years after he was captured, presumably as he still owed the finance on it.

[sierraman]

On 5/12/2022 at 4:58 PM, lesapandre said:

Isn't that "do you know of a house with an unusual amount of plod outside?"

Now demolished of course. There is a whole additional thread here of infamous houses still standing.

But in the nastiest cases they demolish the building and occasionally rename the street.

Notice in the second picture the house number has disappeared - wonder if that was taken by a souvenir hunter...

In the book it says it was taken by detectives to avoid anyone keeping it as a momento. The farm at Berkeley is still standing albeit derelict despite there being substantial evidence that there are bodies there. 

[Boycie]

The Police are sure Cannan killed Suzy sadly the evidence isn't there and Cannan is saying nothing 

[Pieman]

5 hours ago, Boycie said:

The Police are sure Cannan killed Suzy sadly the evidence isn't there and Cannan is saying nothing 

Indeed - Cannan definitely did that one and the police know he did it, but unless he confesses to it and tells them where she is buried they can't prove it, and he is inside for life anyway so will gain nothing from saying anything.

[JeeExEll]

Cannan was given 3 life sentences (three) in 1988 for murders and rapes  But apparently he's 'eligible for release' from prison in October this year, in 5 months' time.  

FFS, put the cell-key in the bin and switch off the light.

You wouldn't want him living next door.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cannan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Suzy_Lamplugh

[sierraman]

1 hour ago, JeeExEll said:

Cannan was given 3 life sentences (three) in 1988 for murders and rapes  But apparently he's 'eligible for release' from prison in October this year, in 5 months' time.  

FFS, put the cell-key in the bin and switch off the light.

You wouldn't want him living next door.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cannan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Suzy_Lamplugh

I’d doubt very much they’ll release him, too great a risk. 

[ProgRocker]

On 11/05/2022 at 08:29, D.E said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

A video about this has just been uploaded to YouTube:

There's another one on the same channel about Bonnie & Clyde, uploaded a week ago. 

[ProgRocker]

On 26/06/2015 at 16:26, greengartside said:

Did a picture of Michael Ryan's Astra GTE ever exist?

There's a reverse image of it in this video:

 

[greengartside]

I think that’s the image that was on these very pages. It was reversed on here just like in the video….

There were also these images that were released…

[warren t claim]

On 5/15/2022 at 11:49 PM, Pieman said:

Indeed - Cannan definitely did that one and the police know he did it, but unless he confesses to it and tells them where she is buried they can't prove it, and he is inside for life anyway so will gain nothing from saying anything.

Apparently he's on a while life tariff and refuses to talk to the police about Suzy until his mother dies as he doesn't want to bring more shame on her. 

[Boycie]

Cannan wouldn't admit to his own name , very similar in type to Ted Bundy , he,ll never get out and he,ll never say where Suzy is buried 

[warren t claim]

 

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/post/fresh-police-appeal-on-30th-anniversary-of-brutal-unsolved-murder-of-working-taxi-driver?fbclid=IwAR1mHW8Q4qHnY5Vp9vOua9P5zpo-zsaL7nSfejasT7qNMN3OsB1JVIrNinw

[sierraman]

10 hours ago, warren t claim said:

 

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/post/fresh-police-appeal-on-30th-anniversary-of-brutal-unsolved-murder-of-working-taxi-driver?fbclid=IwAR1mHW8Q4qHnY5Vp9vOua9P5zpo-zsaL7nSfejasT7qNMN3OsB1JVIrNinw

By sounds of it was cabbed for a further 9 years after the likely grizzly attack that took place in or near it. 

[Metal Guru]

On 12/05/2022 at 09:24, JimH said:

The true scandal of the Italian Job is that to this day Michael Caine has never been charged let alone stood trial for his acting in that film. 

Just for that film?

[JimH]

Heavens no. Were Michael to be found guilty of Acting Without Due Care and Attention a sensible brief would advise him to ask for 135 other offences to be taken into consideration.  

[sierraman]

1 hour ago, JimH said:

Heavens no. Were Michael to be found guilty of Acting Without Due Care and Attention a sensible brief would advise him to ask for 135 other offences to be taken into consideration.  

Acting in a way liable to cause annoyance to viewers. 

Use of gags in a built up area after the hours of 8pm

Possession with intent to supply stereotypes

[Inspiral_Mondays]

Toyota Tacoma pickup truck in lightly* modified form being used by ISIS. After the US plumber whose name and phone number appear on the side was interviewed by the CIA, he sued the dealership he‘d originally sold the thing to. The CIA went on to investigate how ISIS had managed to procure so many Toyota pickups.

Here’s another pic of the same truck.

 

[Dyslexic Viking]

Ford Taunus 12M owned by the Norwegian serial killer and rapist Edgar Antonsen he and his brother Terje Antonsen used this car in 2 murders and rapes where one of the victims was 12 years old. Edgar had previously also committed a murder for which he was not arrested and several rapes. Both were convicted in the mid 1970s and released in the 1980s and given new identities. Edgar took his life in 1993 when he was wanted after a new rape, Terje lived until 2005.

[J R Hartley]

The Alfa Romeo Alfetta driven by murder victim Janice Weston. To date the case remains unsolved. 

 

 

[warren t claim]

10 minutes ago, J R Hartley said:

The Alfa Romeo Alfetta driven by murder victim Janice Weston. To date the case remains unsolved. 

 

 

Wasn't the spare wheel crucial to the investigation? 

[J R Hartley]

Just now, warren t claim said:

Wasn't the spare wheel crucial to the investigation? 

Yes she had collected the spare wheel with a new tyre fitted the day before the murder,  the garage had written the car registration on the wheel.  The police believe Janice stopped in a lay by on the A1 in Cambridgeshire to change a wheel due to a puncture as the unused spare was now fitted to the car. 

Her body was found near to the lay by but the Alfetta was found parked in London. The punctured wheel has never been found. 

[warren t claim]

17 minutes ago, J R Hartley said:

Yes she had collected the spare wheel with a new tyre fitted the day before the murder,  the garage had written the car registration on the wheel.  The police believe Janice stopped in a lay by on the A1 in Cambridgeshire to change a wheel due to a puncture as the unused spare was now fitted to the car. 

Her body was found near to the lay by but the Alfetta was found parked in London. The punctured wheel has never been found. 

 

[martc]

Not a vehicle used in a crime, but a vehicle used to transport criminals.

For the curious, the following text accompanied the photo...

The Old Bailey, January 1945. Outside a bricked-up Central Criminal Court (Old Bailey), people queue to get a much in demand seat at the trial of the “Cleft Chin Murderers”. The cleft chin murder was a killing which occurred as part of a string of crimes during 1944. It became known as the "cleft chin murder" because the murder victim, George Edward Heath, a taxi driver, had a cleft chin. The culprits were Karl Hultén, a deserter from the U.S. Army, and Elizabeth Jones, an eighteen-year-old waitress.

On 3 October 1944, Jones met Hultén in a tea shop. The relationship lasted only six days. During that time they knocked over a nurse cycling along a country lane and robbed her; picked up a hitchhiker, knocked her unconscious, robbed her, and then threw her into a river to drown (though she survived); finally, they murdered taxi driver George Edward Heath near Staines in Middlesex. They robbed Heath of £8, which they spent at the dog races the next day. After spending the taxi driver's £8, Jones announced she wanted a fur coat. Hultén attacked a woman in the street and tried to snatch her coat, but the police came and Hultén only just managed to escape in the stolen taxi driver’s car.

 He was eventually caught because the car was still in his possession. In the meantime Jones had gone to the police and admitted to the crimes, to ease her conscience. During the trial they implicated each other. They were both found guilty of murdering Heath and were sentenced by Mr Justice Charles to be hanged. While Hultén was executed at Pentonville Prison on 8 March 1945, Jones was reprieved and released in May 1954. Her subsequent fate is unknown, although there are reports of her death occurring in 1980.

The reprieve caused some controversy, because many people considered the crimes to be cowardly, and in a war-torn Britain where everyone was pulling together to face a common enemy, almost treasonous. "SHE SHOULD HANG" was graffitied in several places in Jones's home town.