Cars that are shite but never seem to appear FS on here.

[lesapandre]

So cars are so terrible they just aren't worth the bother. I'll add the Nissan Stanza to the list. Horrible new, horrible old.

[Metal Guru]

As we seem to be putting the boot into Nissan , I’ll put forward the Sunny. (Might have been Datsun still). My brother had one, an estate. It only had a 4 speed gearbox which felt like a 6 with 4 and 5 missing. So you had to rev the nuts of it in 3rd , getting it to about 60 otherwise it would just die on you when you selected 4th. 
Had the pleasure* of driving it from Kent to the far north of Scotland and back for a holiday. 

[1duck]

I'm surprised we don't see more kia's the Rio in particular they sold a load of them on the initial scrappage scheme, they are 2005(ISH) we should be awash with them. I think I've seen maybe 1?  Are they truly so bad that they just vanished.

[EyesWeldedShut]

15 hours ago, lesapandre said:

So cars are so terrible they just aren't worth the bother. I'll add the Nissan Stanza to the list. Horrible new, horrible old.

Ditto - 1.6GL, manual, five speed - FiL owned that from new on a 'B' Prefix. Wouldn't hold fifth on any sort of slope at any speed and why they sold that alongside the Bluebird  have no clue.

My vote would go to the VW Fox - they are around but not on AS?

[sierraman]

17 minutes ago, 1duck said:

I'm surprised we don't see more kia's the Rio in particular they sold a load of them on the initial scrappage scheme, they are 2005(ISH) we should be awash with them. I think I've seen maybe 1?  Are they truly so bad that they just vanished.

They had Fiesta Mk3 wheels didnt they? 

[Datsuncog]

2 hours ago, 1duck said:

I'm surprised we don't see more kia's the Rio in particular they sold a load of them on the initial scrappage scheme, they are 2005(ISH) we should be awash with them. I think I've seen maybe 1?  Are they truly so bad that they just vanished.

I was kind of interested in a Rio about ten years back when I was looking for a small estate and they seemed cheap and relatively plentiful; got put off by tales of rust, niggly gearbox issues and eating clutches for breakfast.

Possibly folks just drove them til they broke, then chucked them because they weren't seen as worth fixing. Certainly it's been a few years since I spotted one.

I bought a Mk2 Polo instead. 

[Datsuncog]

7 hours ago, Metal Guru said:

As we seem to be putting the boot into Nissan , I’ll put forward the Sunny. (Might have been Datsun still). My brother had one, an estate. It only had a 4 speed gearbox which felt like a 6 with 4 and 5 missing. So you had to rev the nuts of it in 3rd , getting it to about 60 otherwise it would just die on you when you selected 4th. 
Had the pleasure* of driving it from Kent to the far north of Scotland and back for a holiday. 

Did your brother's Sunny estate have round headlights? There were two styles of  B11 Sunny estate offered - the car-derived version, and the van derived version:

Slopey-back version with rectangular headlights was 5-speed - whereas I believe the round headlight upright version was only 4-speed, and designed as a light urban commercial vehicle rather than a passenger car. This was  probably reflected in the gearing.

I'd love another B11 coupe (I owned two) or an estate, but OMG JDM $C£N£ TAX YO has put them rather beyond shiter budgets these days.

This one, with Nissan badges on the front and Datsun badges on the back, embarrassed quite a few newer cars back in the day - the 1.5 engine wasn't all that fast with a top end of only about 90, but the gearing made it quick off the line at the lights and I found it a really nice cruiser.

I was up and down from Dublin to Belfast quite a bit at the time, and it whispered along faultlessly at 70mph up the N1/A1. Your experience sounds rather different!

[sierraman]

My mums friend had a succession of Nissan Sunnys, the estate then a coupe. I could be wrong but they were pretty heavily discounted when they were new, DC Cooks used to sell them IIRC. They probably just got bought on the chucky then probably worked faultlessly until one day they didn't and all disappeared. 

[lesapandre]

Rust ate most of this stuff. Whole bottom of the cars would dissolve.

[Metal Guru]

29 minutes ago, Datsuncog said:

Did your brother's Sunny estate have round headlights? There were two styles of  B11 Sunny estate offered - the car-derived version, and the van derived version:

Slopey-back version with rectangular headlights was 5-speed - whereas I believe the round headlight upright version was only 4-speed, and designed as a light urban commercial vehicle rather than a passenger car. This was  probably reflected in the gearing.

I'd love another B11 coupe (I owned two) or an estate, but OMG JDM $C£N£ TAX YO has put them rather beyond shiter budgets these days.

This one, with Nissan badges on the front and Datsun badges on the back, embarrassed quite a few newer cars back in the day - the 1.5 engine wasn't all that fast with a top end of only about 90, but the gearing made it quick off the line at the lights and I found it a really nice cruiser.

I was up and down from Dublin to Belfast quite a bit at the time, and it whispered along faultlessly at 70mph up the N1/A1. Your experience sounds rather different!

It was older than those. I think it was X or Y reg (original system), around 1982. As I said it might have been a Datsun still.

[Knotty Ash Towers]

I don't think Nissan have sold anything interesting in Britain since 1990, apart from maybe the Maxima or the QX...

[Datsuncog]

21 minutes ago, Metal Guru said:

It was older than those. I think it was X or Y reg (original system), around 1982. As I said it might have been a Datsun still.

Ah, ok - the earlier RWD B310 Sunny had a similar spec, with a slightly more stylish 'fastback wagon' variant offered alongside a more upright commercial wagon variant.

Fastback wagon:

Commercial wagon:

 

By the early 1980s, the fastback wagon came with the newer A13 and A15 engines offered with a 5-speed box, while the commercial still made do with the old A12 unit, a 4-speed gearbox and leaf spring rear suspension.

Sounds like you may have been saddled with the much less mechanically capable van version, just.

[1duck]

22 minutes ago, Knotty Ash Towers said:

I don't think Nissan have sold anything interesting in Britain since 1990, apart from maybe the Maxima or the QX...

Nissan cube wants a word, along with the skyline, stagea (did we even get those or were they grey imports)

[danthecapriman]

1 hour ago, Datsuncog said:

Did your brother's Sunny estate have round headlights? There were two styles of  B11 Sunny estate offered - the car-derived version, and the van derived version:

Slopey-back version with rectangular headlights was 5-speed - whereas I believe the round headlight upright version was only 4-speed, and designed as a light urban commercial vehicle rather than a passenger car. This was  probably reflected in the gearing.

I'd love another B11 coupe (I owned two) or an estate, but OMG JDM $C£N£ TAX YO has put them rather beyond shiter budgets these days.

This one, with Nissan badges on the front and Datsun badges on the back, embarrassed quite a few newer cars back in the day - the 1.5 engine wasn't all that fast with a top end of only about 90, but the gearing made it quick off the line at the lights and I found it a really nice cruiser.

I was up and down from Dublin to Belfast quite a bit at the time, and it whispered along faultlessly at 70mph up the N1/A1. Your experience sounds rather different!

The coupe version was what my parents had for donkeys years. It was a metallic blue Y reg. absolutely superb car. It just kept going and going. Rust started to get hold of it in the end, the sills and door bottoms went then the bulkhead rotted out which was the killer really as it was hard to fix. It got traded in around 2000ish and went straight to scrap. It had a good innings though really, especially since it went all over the country when we had it. The amount of times it did the Portsmouth to Doncaster run and back! Good cars.

[D.E]

Come to think of it, the Tino wasn't exactly exciting either...

[Metal Guru]

1 hour ago, lesapandre said:

Rust ate most of this stuff. Whole bottom of the cars would dissolve.

TBF they weren’t much worse than Fords and BLs of the time and were probably better than Fiats, but it was reliability that sold them. Boring cars maybe, but there’s not much more boring than waiting 2 hrs for the AA to turn up.

[stuboy]

9 hours ago, D.E said:

Come to think of it, the Tino wasn't exactly exciting either...

erindoors had one when we got together, practical but god it was dull and slow

[Tayne]

9 hours ago, D.E said:

Come to think of it, the Tino wasn't exactly exciting either...

Total sales flop which lead to Nissan pivoting to crossovers and developing the successful Quashquai.

[2flags]

I remember my manager had a Nissan Sunny back in the day. Okay car but I remember it had such luxuries as electric windows and sunroof! [He was pissed when I got a Rover 800!] 😁

[Metal Guru]

31 minutes ago, stuboy said:

erindoors had one when we got together, practical but god it was dull and slow

Wasn’t that another Alfa Arna? Take a manufacturer known for flared but flawed cars and have a joint venture with one known for dull but reliable cars. However, instead of an interesting but reliable car, your somehow got a boring unreliable car.

In this case, this is a Renault Scenic in disguise.

[Split_Pin]

I never even noticed there were 2 versions of the Sunny estate yet I recognise all the cars pictured. I especially remember the van with the round lights.

[Kringle]

Fiat Grande Puntos were an absolute liability but they never appeared on here. What's else...

Peugeot 1007? That's prime for here. Mercedes B Class? They were god awful, never seen one on here for sale.

[stripped fred]

14 hours ago, Knotty Ash Towers said:

I don't think Nissan have sold anything interesting in Britain since 1990, apart from maybe the Maxima or the QX...

Excuse me, my (now my son's) 1997 Micra k11 drives really well. Lovely little thing.

[Datsuncog]

10 hours ago, Tayne said:

Total sales flop which lead to Nissan pivoting to crossovers and developing the successful Quashquai.

The Tino was sold as a family car, but the unusual way the rear seatbelts were affixed meant that most child seats couldn't be securely installed. 

I was certified as a Britax-trained installer back in the day, and Tinos were a known problem. 

Can't have helped their sales, or aftermarket appeal! 

Crew cab pickups were also a problem with child seats; I had a few sticky conversations over the years with corporate types who'd rock up in their brand new BIK-dodging Mitsubishi L200 Animal, only to discover they couldn't safely and legally carry the kids in it... bet that was another fun* conversation when they got home... 

[vaughant]

9 hours ago, Kringle said:

Fiat Grande Puntos were an absolute liability but they never appeared on here. What's else...

Peugeot 1007? That's prime for here. Mercedes B Class? They were god awful, never seen one on here for sale.

Oh blimey yes the b class and the a class Wheely bin shape, absolute dog shit and I believe as @tooSavvyfound out very expensive to fix even ridiculous things like starter motors are an engine out job. Rightly very few left on the road.

I think with a lot of unloved cars folk will keep them on the road if they have a bit of a "personality" where a lot of the cars mentioned here don't really. 

I remember the advert for the Almera and it was pretty cool, 70's style bank robbery I think? It was really the only cool thing about a seriously uncool car. 

If it had a sneaky 2.0T in it but still looked like an Almera I think it would have a place on here as a cheeky sleeper nobody knew about, I'd even argue @ProgRocker and his 2.2d engine could have actually been in that category but maybe they're just that boring nobody wants them? 

You don't see many MK1 focii on here either, they're getting rarer now but still a very good car, probably just dying out and with the MK2 being a really decent car still available for pin money it's going to be the first choice.

[tooSavvy]

^ ^ ^.... Err, never had my hands on a German 😮

*mebbies I'm the worse for that.....

🚙💨

[smellypoo]

22 hours ago, Knotty Ash Towers said:

I don't think Nissan have sold anything interesting in Britain since 1990, apart from maybe the Maxima or the QX...

Mrs smellypoo had a bright green 'facelift' K11 Micra (looks-wise, I preferred the pre-facelift but they were all pretty ugly really). However, it was totally reliable, and properly nippy around town, the little 1.3 engine took all the abuse I could give it, and loved it. Drove way better than it had any right to. Also held up very well in a crash by the (then) tollgates to the Dartford tunnel. Besides, all those driving schools that ran them couldn't have been wrong.

Also, not really 'shite' but I absolutely love the 300ZX from around 1990-on, gorgeous car. Don't forget the Skylines too (again, definitely not autoshite, but interesting).

The Almera was dogshit though, I absolutely hated those.

[Volksy]

I guess as the For Sale section is members only, the cars that appear on there are mainly what we actually buy. I know there is probably someone for every shit make/model of car, but I'd say that the section is more a reflection of what we consider to be shite, but useable. Rather than just shit. 

[Dick Cheeseburger]

53 minutes ago, smellypoo said:

 The Almera was dogshit underrated though, I absolutely hated misunderstood those.

EFA

Would. 

[Pieman]

11 hours ago, Kringle said:

Peugeot 1007? That's prime for here. 

My grandma had one of those, which my dad later inherited after she passed away.

It was completely shit, and the automatic gearbox finally packed up and we scrapped it.