Late registration madness

[Cavcraft]

Maestro was probably a Ledbury or Bulgarian one.

[Angrydicky]

Ledbury, they all had Hereford 'VJ' registrations.

[quicksilver]

Late plate truck shite lunacy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24467251@N02/6599371105/

 

And a tale of Doovla incompetence. A coach firm bought a 1995 Dennis from the military in 2004 and registered it with a private plate. When they came to sell it the Doovla wallies saw 'date of first registration: 2004' and promptly gave it an 04 reg rather than the M prefix it should have.

[cms206]

One of the former Citybus Hong Kong Leyland Olympians that Stagecoach brought to the UK was written off with Western. When first registered in the UK it acquired a cherry plate (511 OHU, IIRC), but when the plate was removed after the accident it was allocated SA04 CDH. Another UK example was this Plaxton bodied Volvo B58, new to Parks of Hamilton as GGD 668T. Exported to Ireland and then back again, it was allocated G421 HCW - quite bizarre looking on a motor of this age:

 

Redline, Penwortham G421 RCW by EwoodEddie1968, on Flickr

 

 

Other examples I can think of are of four Leyland Tigers in ROI, all ex UK operators...

 

Plaxton Paramount bodied A21 GBC, now 96-G-8200

Plaxton Derwent 2 bodied WJI 3490, now 97-MO-5129 -

Plaxton Derwent 2 bodied WJI 3492, now 98-MO-5415 -

 

and my personal favourite...

 

Van Hool Alizee bodied Leyland Tiger A167 MNE... now 00-KE-13862! -

[quicksilver]

In my work for the PSV Circle I've come across all sorts of odd registered buses for various reasons.

 

Advent calendar by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr

Weird X-reg 1976 Ford here. The same dealer also sold some unused mid-70s coaches in 1988 and gave them E-prefixes, and still has an unregistered 40 year old Duple Viceroy stored in a heated garage from new - it was on ebay a while ago for 50 bags IIRC

[AnthonyG]

The same dealer ... still has an unregistered 40 year old Duple Viceroy stored in a heated garage from new - it was on ebay a while ago for 50 bags IIRC

 

Yep - remember that, one of those twin axles at the front jobbies.

[Guest]

Registration TBF715W

Make ROVER

Model 3500

Description AUTOMATIC

Date of Liability 01 01 1989

Date of First Registration 10 09 1980

Year of Manufacture 1980

Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3528CC

CO2 Emissions Not Available

Fuel Type Petrol

Export Marker Not Applicable

Vehicle Status Unlicensed

Vehicle Colour GREEN

[Morgan84]

Sometimes cars from Guernsey and Jersey get later plates from the date of import ( we have a car which 'lost' 2 years ).It makes you wonder though just how many 'forgotten' unused cars are sitting in storage. Did anyone ever see the Plymouth Belvedere they buried in Tulsa in 1958 ? That was a big mistake

[quicksilver]

Registration TBF715W

Make ROVER

Model 3500

Description AUTOMATIC

Date of Liability 01 01 1989

Date of First Registration 10 09 1980

Year of Manufacture 1980

Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3528CC

CO2 Emissions Not Available

Fuel Type Petrol

Export Marker Not Applicable

Vehicle Status Unlicensed

Vehicle Colour GREEN

I remember this one, it was at a Reliant garage not far from me who always have a bizarre selection of random chod for sale.

[mk2_craig]

 

Not sure of the story behind this one, but given the first mk3 Fiestas appeared on an F prefix there's something unusual gone on here.

[406V6]

In the late 1980s I lived in the USA and bought a new Pontiac Firebird. When I returned to the UK I imported the car and it was given a newer plate than it should have had due to a mistake by the DVLA. What happened was that the car was registered in the USA on the 8th April 1988 so in the UK it should have had an E plate. However the date was written on the original USA registration as 04/08/88 because the Americans write their dates in a different way to us. The DVLA read this as 4th August and so the car got an F plate.

[cms206]

 

Not sure of the story behind this one, but given the first mk3 Fiestas appeared on an F prefix there's something unusual gone on here.

 

DVLA says...

 

The vehicle details for K25 RAF are:

Date of Liability 01 06 2012

Date of First Registration 13 09 1988

Year of Manufacture 1988

Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1597cc

CO2 Emissions Not Available

Fuel Type PETROL

Export Marker N

Vehicle Status SORN Not Due

Vehicle Colour RED

Vehicle Type Approval Not Available

[cms206]

Registration TBF715W

Make ROVER

Model 3500

Description AUTOMATIC

Date of Liability 01 01 1989

Date of First Registration 10 09 1980

Year of Manufacture 1980

Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3528CC

CO2 Emissions Not Available

Fuel Type Petrol

Export Marker Not Applicable

Vehicle Status Unlicensed

Vehicle Colour GREEN

I remember this one, it was at a Reliant garage not far from me who always have a bizarre selection of random chod for sale.

 

 

Not sure if it's been mentioned on here or not, did one of the PC Staffers not have a LHD P6 V8 registered MGK 465Y?

[Pete-M]

Chap I know has a Mk2 RS2000 Custom registered on a '86 C plate.

 

I'll try and get a snap of it next time I see him.

[Wilko220]

Many years ago my dad had a Mk2 Allegro on a W plate. Turned out it had been imported from the Republic of Ireland and re-registered two years into its life.

No pic alas...

[mk2_craig]

 

Not sure of the story behind this one, but given the first mk3 Fiestas appeared on an F prefix there's something unusual gone on here.

 

DVLA says...

 

The vehicle details for K25 RAF are:

Date of Liability 01 06 2012

Date of First Registration 13 09 1988

Year of Manufacture 1988

Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1597cc

CO2 Emissions Not Available

Fuel Type PETROL

Export Marker N

Vehicle Status SORN Not Due

Vehicle Colour RED

Vehicle Type Approval Not Available

 

Wonder if that was exported somewhere when it was a few years old then re-imported shortly after. On the face of it looks like a DVLA mess-up!

[quicksilver]

I guess this one qualifies. Interesting story behind it: built as LHD in 1989, caught up in MCW's bankruptcy, taken over by Optare, sold to Skinners, rebuilt to RHD and registered in 1992. They still have its sister, not yet registered as the RHD conversion still isn't finished so lord knows what plate that'll get.

 

Get it right by quicksilver coaches, on Flickr

[pandamonium]

I don't think this counts really.

[dollywobbler]

No. That's cheating! Mind you, it does look very wrong - like 04 plate Citroen C15s.

[chaseracer]

 

Are those Cortina 80 lights?

[cms206]

 

Are those Cortina 80 lights?

 

 

Yep, and Escort Combi tail-lights, Ford Cargo axles, steering gear and switchgear.

[Taff]

Sometimes cars from Guernsey and Jersey get later plates from the date of import ( we have a car which 'lost' 2 years ).It makes you wonder though just how many 'forgotten' unused cars are sitting in storage. Did anyone ever see the Plymouth Belvedere they buried in Tulsa in 1958 ? That was a big mistake

 

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forum ... 51&start=1

 

this one?

 

the years swapping thing happened to a spitfire i took to germany with me, when i got posted back to UK and re-registered it, it went from a T reg to a W reg. not uncommon for squaddies to have that happen

[AndyW201]

Craziest one I saw was a few years ago, a Mercedes 190E on an 03 plate! A lot of Japan-spec grey import ones come over here, but they usually get age-reated plates. I have seen a few 190s that werent the LE runout specials on M Plates. The earliest C Classes were on an L.

 

There was a K registered 3 door Sierra Cosworth used to live locally. I heard a story that it was a late Sapphire 4X4 one grafted into a 3 door shell.

 

A guy I used to drive taxis for used to run a hot mk1 Escort years ago at all the local boy racer hangouts back in the 90s. The mk1 was on a T plate. Apparently it was a smashed up mk2 mexico reshelled into a mk1.

 

A guy I know in the taxi business has a couple of mk1 Octavias on 58 and 09 plates. A few of the companies are keen on using the old 1.9 TDis rather than the new shape 2.0s. The wife's mk 1 Octy gets a few looks being a non taxi on an 05 plate, the mk2 coming out in 2004. I know they've run the mk1 alongside the mk2 to taxi and mingebag fleet managers for years but I've not seen petrol engined ones as late as ours. I'll never understand though how it was ordered in outside bog classic spec, but was then specified with factory air con, alloys, body mouldings, and a dealer fit VRS spoiler. Looks nice though, and I think the classic spec has future shiter written all over it!

[Alexg]

No. That's cheating! Mind you, it does look very wrong - like 04 plate Citroen C15s.

 

I snapped an 06 plate - on page 10

[Pete-M]

 

This is actually an 02 plate 3dr Cosworth. The Y2K RS plate comes with it just to confuse people even more.

 

Admittedly, it has built from new parts in 2002, but it still looks weird.

[Joseph]

I seem to remember seeing pics of 70s VW vans/busses with 06/56 plates on them

 

They would be genuine, you can still get them. They are water cooled now, I think it's a VW Polo 1.4 engine.

 

I've seen a Mk1 Golf on a P prefix, I asked about it on here at the time and it seems it would be a South African model.

 

You are spot on: The 70s style VW vans are known as the VW Danbury, and as you say they are still for sale.

 

The South African Golfs are known as the 'Citi Golf'.

 

The VW Camper with a 1400cc Polo engine?! Surely this must also qualify for the 'Biggest car, smallest engine' post!

[mk2_craig]

 

This is actually an 02 plate 3dr Cosworth. The Y2K RS plate comes with it just to confuse people even more.

 

Admittedly, it has built from new parts in 2002, but it still looks weird.

 

How the hell did they manage to do that, and not have to SVA it for a Q plate? Surely the type approval/emissions regulations would have prevented it being registered as a new vehicle - I'd have thought they would have gone by the build date on the VIN to allocate it an age-related mark.

 

Perplexing!

[Joseph]

I've seen another Y plate TR7, the number completely escapes me though.

 

I forgot about this J plate Volvo 340 drift weapon that's been lurking in my Flickr.

 

DSC_7966 by RichardB5, on Flickr

 

DSC_7964 by RichardB5, on Flickr

 

Nice one! 1992 was the last year of 340 production, the 2.0 360s having bowed out circa 1990-1. When I was at school one of the teachers had a J-plate 340 with 'Limited Edition' on the back. I presume he eventually scrapped it. (I love these old Volvos, my dad had an F-plate GL model).

[Joseph]

I once saw a 1982 X-reg Volvo 760 GLE. Presumably, it was originally registered and used by Volvo Concessionaires Limited in the months leading up to the model's official UK launch.

 

I've also seen L and M-reg 240 estates

 

Yep, I've seen an X-reg 760 as well (a saloon, as the estates weren't launched until 1984). I've seen a couple of L-reg 240 Estates as well, but never as late as M-reg. Imagine that being sold against the 850 at the same time(!)

[Joseph]

I've spotted a couple of Volvo V40s on a 54 plate: Not surprising, since the last year of production was 2004, and old and new Volvo models do overlap. However, I'm sure that I've also seen an 05 plated V40 (police - on Road Wars -Does that count????). I reckon that fleets such as the police stockpile cars due to discounts from buying in bulk(?)

 

I can also deduce from seeing the various late registered cars on here, that it could also plainly be down to the fact that the DVLA have no idea of what they are doing some of the time...